Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Belize]

Honestly, the best thing Europe could do right now is actually invade Ukraine from the west. Claim it as their own. No need to fight russia, but make sure everything up to the frontline is Europe's annexed territory.

That's the best security guarantee that Ukraine can have. Make Zelenskyy the governor of this new Ukraine Federation.

Lmao, the best thing the West can do is sever all internet connections with Russia so we can be rid of dumb bullshit like this

[Timester]

Honestly, the best thing Europe could do right now is actually invade Ukraine from the west. Claim it as their own. No need to fight russia, but make sure everything up to the frontline is Europe's annexed territory.

That's the best security guarantee that Ukraine can have. Make Zelenskyy the governor of this new Ukraine Federation.

Stop playing Hearts of Iron 4 unironically, it's just a fucking game.

[Wilian]

In another act of genocide, Russia has announced that if Ukrainians in occupied territorities will not accept Russian citizenship, they will be forcefully moved out of the country.

[Sunseeker]

In another act of genocide, Russia has announced that if Ukrainians in occupied territorities will not accept Russian citizenship, they will be forcefully moved out of the country.

Man, there hasnt been a Russification since the USSR. Wasnt it even Pootie who made that, frankly great, USSR quote about whoever wants it back doesnt have a brain?

[gondrin]

Man, there hasnt been a Russification since the USSR. Wasnt it even Pootie who made that, frankly great, USSR quote about whoever wants it back doesnt have a brain?

And yet, he was always pining to recreate the USSR since it fell in the 80s.

[PhaelixWW]

And yet, he was always pining to recreate the USSR since it fell in the 80s.

90s, not 80s.

[gondrin]

90s, not 80s.

Well, I am adding in the fall of the Berlin Wall as being the start of the end of the USSR which happened in the late 80s.

[PhaelixWW]

Well, I am adding in the fall of the Berlin Wall as being the start of the end of the USSR which happened in the late 80s.

Bruh...

November 9, 1989 is reaaaaaaaaaaaally stretching it to include the whole decade.

[gondrin]

Bruh...

November 9, 1989 is reaaaaaaaaaaaally stretching it to include the whole decade.

It is still technically in the 80s. Technically.

[PhaelixWW]

It is still technically in the 80s. Technically.

"Technically in the 80s" was the start of the prequel to the fall of the USSR. I appreciate the efforts to avoid just saying "I was wrong", but c'mon now. Your statement was the USSR "fell in the 80s".

This is a strange hill to die on.

[Corvus]

Slightly large explosion at the Engels air force base, where russia bases heavy bombers. Reportedly it was storage for guided bombs and missiles that got hit. The shockwave from the blast damaged buildings more than 5km from the base - hopefully a few aircraft were around when it went up as they wouldn't take too kindly to a shockwave that big.

[Gabriel]

Slightly large explosion at the Engels air force base, where russia bases heavy bombers. Reportedly it was storage for guided bombs and missiles that got hit. The shockwave from the blast damaged buildings more than 5km from the base - hopefully a few aircraft were around when it went up as they wouldn't take too kindly to a shockwave that big.

Glorious Russian aircraft intercepted the shockwave and prevented damage to the airfield.

[PhaelixWW]

Glorious Russian aircraft intercepted the shockwave and prevented damage to the airfield.

8/10.

You forgot to blame it on falling debris from shot-down drones, rather than successful drone strikes.

[Gabriel]

8/10.

You forgot to blame it on falling debris from shot-down drones, rather than successful drone strikes.

Shit. You're right.

[Flarelaine]

And yet, he was always pining to recreate the USSR since it fell in the 80s.

Putin was stationed in one of the East German cities, Dresden or Leipzig, when the Berlin Wall fell. Allegedly he stared down a mob intent on torching the Russian compound there - but whether his heroics are fabricated or not, there being a mob in the first place, even if just shouting angrily, must have had quite an impact. After all, in his native Soviet Union he cannot have experienced any form of open dissent.

[Iphie]

Putin was stationed in one of the East German cities, Dresden or Leipzig, when the Berlin Wall fell. Allegedly he stared down a mob intent on torching the Russian compound there - but whether his heroics are fabricated or not, there being a mob in the first place, even if just shouting angrily, must have had quite an impact. After all, in his native Soviet Union he cannot have experienced any form of open dissent.

It was Dresden, and iirc he was stationed there already in 1986 around the time Chornobyl did boom, he was right in the path of the radioactivity.

[LeGin v4]

even if just shouting angrily

Most likely. Coz he's fucking mad

In direct contrast to: Oleg Gordievsky who died today. A rational human who saw a better alternative to Soviet arrogance & paranoia. And lived his last days in a safe house in the UK, thirty years after perestroika, his death sentence unrepealed.

So bored with Russian exceptionalism now.

C'mon Vatnicks - threaten nuclear war more

[Wilian]

And EU drops the ball, again after again. The planned 40 billion euro military aid package prepared by Kaja Kallas, which was meant to assure Ukraine that they will get necessary aid despite US vassalization by Putin has died on its launch tracks after resistance from southern EU countries + France.

God damnit I despise European spinelessness.

[alach]

Source please?
I see nothing on this. 40b is huge, doubt that would get through anywhere as is.

[Iphie]

Source please?
I see nothing on this. 40b is huge, doubt that would get through anywhere as is.

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