Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Mayhem]

Whether that’s true or not Europe best not throw up its hand and say “well the US didn’t do anything, nobody deposed Trump… we’re all out of ideas. Shame.” And not for the US’ sake, and not just for Ukraine’s sake… but for their own sake as well.

Cuz the next stop in Putin’s little bastardized speed run of Hitler’s expansionism isn’t the US, it’s Europe.

Oh no, that's not what I am saying at all. We'll fight, I'm just saying the US can't rely on Europe just taking its place at the helm and everything will work out.

[PhaelixWW]

Oh no, that's not what I am saying at all. We'll fight, I'm just saying the US can't rely on Europe just taking its place at the helm and everything will work out.

Can't do worse, at the moment.

[Mayhem]

Can't do worse, at the moment.

Maybe it's a language issue. By "can't rely" I mean that Europe or better the EU is not robust enough to act as one and therefore it neither can act fast enough nor with one voice. Fighting Russian influence is one thing, but suddenly having to fend off US influence as imagined by the Heritage Foundation on top is different. I am just trying to be realistic about all of this shit. And I truly hope the fascist forces within Europe aren't strong enough already to cause enough damage to tip the scale.

[PhaelixWW]

Maybe it's a language issue. By "can't rely" I mean that Europe or better the EU is not robust enough to act as one and therefore it neither can act fast enough nor with one voice. Fighting Russian influence is one thing, but suddenly having to fend off US influence as imagined by the Heritage Foundation on top is different. I am just trying to be realistic about all of this shit. And I truly hope the fascist forces within Europe aren't strong enough already to cause enough damage to tip the scale.

I don't think you have to worry too much about needing to fend off US influence.

[Nymrohd]

Maybe it's a language issue. By "can't rely" I mean that Europe or better the EU is not robust enough to act as one and therefore it neither can act fast enough nor with one voice. Fighting Russian influence is one thing, but suddenly having to fend off US influence as imagined by the Heritage Foundation on top is different. I am just trying to be realistic about all of this shit. And I truly hope the fascist forces within Europe aren't strong enough already to cause enough damage to tip the scale.

So far Trump has been very good for European anti-fascism. But I fear it is temporary and as more and more money gets thrown in and a global depression is likely inevitable yet again fascism will get even stronger because the status quo sucks and the left cannot convince anyone (Because no one actually tried to fix what's wrong).

[Gorsameth]

Its most likely the assault brigades again. These guys are not trained to sit around defending, they are trained to push forward and having them not doing that somewhere is a waste. Its what a lot of the critics of the Kursk incursion didn't really understand. Anyways, I expect to hear more about this in the next 24 hours. Zelensky lost one bargaining chip, so hes out to grab another, and teach russia they can't afford to defend a border that large and still have the manpower to continue to invade your neighbour.

News headline from CNN.
For Vladimir Putin, Russia’s position in the world is personal. Here’s what he really wants


I personally find this incorrect, since what this invasion has cost russia in terms of reputation, human lives, and money, they really don't have a lot of influence around the world left any more.

Putin wanting to essentially recreate the USSR and be a global superpower is not a revelation. It was pretty obvious by his actions for decades at this point probably.

It ofcourse horribly failed when Ukraine didn't collapse immediately but that doesn't make it incorrect. It just means Putin horribly miscalculated.

[En Sabah Nur]

Trump: I believe, we're going to pretty soon have a full ceasefire, and then we're going to have a contract.

And the contract's being negotiated, the contract in terms of dividing up the lands

Fuuuuuck you, Trump.

[Specialka]

Putin wanting to essentially recreate the USSR and be a global superpower is not a revelation. It was pretty obvious by his actions for decades at this point probably.

It ofcourse horribly failed when Ukraine didn't collapse immediately but that doesn't make it incorrect. It just means Putin horribly miscalculated.

Nah, not the USSR. He wants to go for the Great Russian Empire (around the Catherine II era).

[Poopymonster]

Whether that’s true or not Europe best not throw up its hand and say “well the US didn’t do anything, nobody deposed Trump… we’re all out of ideas. Shame.” And not for the US’ sake, and not just for Ukraine’s sake… but for their own sake as well.

Cuz the next stop in Putin’s little bastardized speed run of Hitler’s expansionism isn’t the US, it’s Europe.

He can put off the US since it's effectively neutralized.

[alach]

Progress? Hard to say.

US says it has agreed sea ceasefire with Russia, Ukraine to ensure 'safe navigation in Black Sea'; will 'develop measures' to stop energy strikes

In the Ukraine-specific readout, the White House also said the US confirmed it “remains committed to helping achieve the exchange of prisoners of war, the release of civilian detainees, and the return of forcibly transferred Ukrainian children.”

The Russia-specific document noted that the US would help “restore Russia’s access to the world market for agricultural and fertiliser exports, lower maritime insurance costs, and enhance access to ports and payment systems for such transactions.”

Pretty hard to take at face value when two of the top liars in the world are involved, but I am cautiously optimistic.

[Kaleredar]

Progress? Hard to say.

US says it has agreed sea ceasefire with Russia, Ukraine to ensure 'safe navigation in Black Sea'; will 'develop measures' to stop energy strikes


Pretty hard to take at face value when two of the top liars in the world are involved, but I am cautiously optimistic.

Is Trump even allowed by Putin to say “forcibly transferred Ukrainian children?”

I mean I know they’re wussing out of calling it kidnapping, but that sounds an awful lot like starting to actually blame Russia for something.

[Mazza]

Progress? Hard to say.

US says it has agreed sea ceasefire with Russia, Ukraine to ensure 'safe navigation in Black Sea'; will 'develop measures' to stop energy strikes


Pretty hard to take at face value when two of the top liars in the world are involved, but I am cautiously optimistic.

Looks like the US is going to pressure the world to lift sanctions on Russia, including on payment systems. That should not be on the table unless Russia wants to actually withdraw.

[Mayhem]

Looks like the US is going to pressure the world to lift sanctions on Russia, including on payment systems. That should not be on the table unless Russia wants to actually withdraw.

Pressure the world? How?

[Bwgmon]

Pressure the world? How?

Something something tariffs, I bet.

[alach]

Too bad for him, mr trump does not get to presure the world to do anything anymore. He has already threatened tariffs repeatedly enough the world is moving away from depending on such an unreliable and hostile partner. His demands will be met with a look a parent gives a screaming baby.
Maybe this is how you bankrupt a casino, but this is diplomacy, world politics, and you need to show some respect.

Germany's military rebirth is Europe’s best bet against Putin

And another one for extra emphasis;

In Canada, I saw how Trump is ripping North America apart – and how hard its bond will be to repair

With the US president now warmer to Moscow than to Ottawa, it’s little surprise Canadians I met rolled their eyes at the decline of the special relationship

[thilicen]

Something something tariffs, I bet.

lol nobody gives a fuck

[Mazza]

Pressure the world? How?

Prob more tariffs threats and "we will pull back our NATO deployments in Europe" stuff. It's not like the US has lost all their leverage under Trump, though all the goodwill they have gathered is pretty much gone.

I also want to be clear that while I expect the Trump admin to try this, I also expect them to fail to change anything meaningful through it.

Edit: According to Zelensky the ceasefire in the Black Sea is NOT dependant on the lifting of any sanctions and Lavrov is lying. Both sides are also already accusing eachother of breaking it.

[Odinfrost]

Prob more tariffs threats and "we will pull back our NATO deployments in Europe" stuff. It's not like the US has lost all their leverage under Trump, though all the goodwill they have gathered is pretty much gone.

Considering the Trump admin has already threatened NATO troop withdrawal, even that has less of a bite because it makes Europe prepared that it might happen no matter what anyway.

[Corvus]

Considering russia says the ceasefire doest start until after sanctions are lifted, and they haven't, how can they claim Ukraine beoke a ceasefire they also claim hasn't started?

Oh, right, russia. That answers everything.

[diller]

Prob more tariffs threats and "we will pull back our NATO deployments in Europe" stuff. It's not like the US has lost all their leverage under Trump

Oh they totally have, their troops can just fuck off, they aren't there to protect us anyway.