Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Saradain]

Didn't Trump just say "Don't strike Moscow", while there's talks of long-range weaponry being delivered...? So basically Russia gets 50 free days to bomb civilians and after that, they still get infinite free days to do just that, but Trump might say something not very nice about Russia while they're doing it.

Also, Hungary suggesting sanctions for Ukraine for allegedly killing a hungarian citizen in a recruitment office. Can I get the same shit these people smoke?

[Flarelaine]

Also, Hungary suggesting sanctions for Ukraine for allegedly killing a hungarian citizen in a recruitment office. Can I get the same shit these people smoke?

There are not enough details on that, but our government is raising an awful stink and as people scramble to uncover details some of those appear to be fabricated. (I mean, I knew my government was lying. Their lips moved.) Some of the alleged recording shows another guy and the Facebok profile breaking the story is a fake one.

What seems to be undisputed is that an ethnic Hungarian was drafted and subsequently died in a hospital. Our government claims he was also a Hungarian citizen. It is conceivable as ethnic Hungarians, especially from the former Greater Hungary, can get citizenship on the fast track. But to my best knowledge Ukraine does not recognize dual citizenship. At any rate, Ukraine has a sovereign right to draft their citizens. They have no right to treat them as the Hungarian government alleges they did but again, I know they are liars. Some accounts say the guy ran away which would make him a deserter which is still no reason to beat him to death but might explain (though still not excuse) mistreatment.

I hope we get to see the truth eventually.

Also Hungarian citizens have already died in this war, on the frontlines. No one proposed to sanction Russia for their deaths.

[Saradain]

There are not enough details on that, but our government is raising an awful stink and as people scramble to uncover details some of those appear to be fabricated. (I mean, I knew my government was lying. Their lips moved.) Some of the alleged recording shows another guy and the Facebok profile breaking the story is a fake one.

What seems to be undisputed is that an ethnic Hungarian was drafted and subsequently died in a hospital. Our government claims he was also a Hungarian citizen. It is conceivable as ethnic Hungarians, especially from the former Greater Hungary, can get citizenship on the fast track. But to my best knowledge Ukraine does not recognize dual citizenship. At any rate, Ukraine has a sovereign right to draft their citizens. They have no right to treat them as the Hungarian government alleges they did but again, I know they are liars. Some accounts say the guy ran away which would make him a deserter which is still no reason to beat him to death but might explain (though still not excuse) mistreatment.

I hope we get to see the truth eventually.

Also Hungarian citizens have already died in this war, on the frontlines. No one proposed to sanction Russia for their deaths.

Last I checked, ukrainian authorities claim the man was a citizen of Ukraine (yeah, could be someone with double citizenship while its not recognized) and he died to a blood clot in the lungs.

All I see is Orban trying to raise anti-Ukraine sentiment as per his master's wish. Either case, may justice prevail and truth come out and the proper consequences.

[alach]

Important day in Ukraine. Zelensky has formed a new government. Guess we shall see how it goes, but otherwise I would like to draw attention to this;

Four dead after Russia strikes shopping centre in eastern Ukraine with 500-kilogram bomb

At least four people were killed and 27 were injured in the Russian attack on the town of Dobropillia in Donetsk region in eastern Ukraine, after Moscow forces struck a shopping centre here with a half-a-tonne aerial bomb.
Russia attacked a shopping centre in the eastern Ukrainian town of Dobropillia with a FAB-type 500-kg aerial bomb, killing at least four people and injuring 27 others, regional officials reported Thursday.

Fifty-four retail outlets, 304 apartments, and eight vehicles have been struck, and a fire broke out following the attack, the head of the Donetsk regional military administration said.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy described the strike as "simply horrific" and said there was "no military logic" to it.

So trump is allowing putin another 49 days of that sort of thing. Not that long ago, putin said something along the lines of, I could end this in just 60 days - and so we end up with this.

Russia tightens its stranglehold on Ukraine battlefield as Trump gifts Putin 50-day window

US President Donald Trump’s 50-day pause ahead of possible secondary sanctions on Russia gifts the Kremlin a window to exploit the incremental gains of recent weeks, which analysts say increasingly put key Ukrainian strongholds in the east in peril.

Russia is thought to be days or weeks away from surging into a heightened summer offensive, perhaps using the 160,000 troops Ukrainian officials have said are amassing near their front lines. But in the past two weeks, Russia has also made small but vital advances, placing its forces in a better position to cut off Ukrainian troops in three key towns – Pokrovsk, Kostyantynivka and Kupiansk – on the eastern front line.

The Kremlin appeared unperturbed by the new Trump deadline, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov saying on Tuesday: “Fifty days – it used to be 24 hours; it used to be 100 days; we’ve been through all of this.”

The good news is that NATO is fast tracking weapons shipments, and after some initial confusion that are trying to get the Patriots there within days if possible and everything that has just been sitting in Poland delivered right away. This is a make or break summer for Ukraine... But maybe I said that before, and this is TACO we are dealing with.

[alach]

Ukraine managed to shut down all of Moscows airports today with a drone swarm.
Zelensky has asked russia to meet for peace talks this week, so something to keep an eye on.

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Update for Monday the 21st
Sounds like putin gave his response to Zelenskys peace talks proposal.

Russia Launches Massive Overnight Strikes on Kyiv and Western Ukraine
In the early hours of July 21, Russia carried out a massive combined aerial assault on Kyiv and other regions across Ukraine, deploying attack drones alongside cruise and ballistic missiles. The overnight strikes triggered widespread damage and left at least one person dead and six others injured, including a teenager, according to official reports.

The Ukrainian capital was rocked by repeated explosions between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m., with air-raid sirens sounding multiple times throughout the night. Fires broke out in several districts of Kyiv as a result of the bombardment. In Darnytskyi district, a fire erupted on the roof of a non-residential building. A supermarket and a high-rise residential building were also affected, with one man hospitalized due to multiple injuries. Fires were also reported in the Shevchenkivskyi district, where flames engulfed the first and second floors of a residential building, injuring one person. Meanwhile, in the Dniprovskyi district, a shopping arcade caught fire and debris fell onto the grounds of a kindergarten. Outdoor kiosks were reported burning as well.

Meanwhile, in the western region of Ivano-Frankivsk, Russia launched what local officials described as the most intense aerial attack since the start of the full-scale invasion. Multiple types of missiles and Shahed drones were used, damaging civilian infrastructure across at least three villages within the Ivano-Frankivsk hromada. Mayor Ruslan Martsinkiv reported broken windows in one village and injuries in others. He noted that infrastructure was damaged in three separate communities, and air defenses were active throughout the region.

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Update Tuesday the 22nd.

Russians enter Pokrovsk – Ukrainska Pravda sources

Ukrainian military personnel stationed in Pokrovsk, Donetsk Oblast, have confirmed to Ukrainska Pravda that Russian forces had entered the city, with a mop-up operation now underway against the intruding sabotage units.
By the evening of 21 July, DeepState reported that the mop-up operation against the Russian sabotage groups in Pokrovsk remained "ongoing."

"A couple of days ago, the enemy seized an opportunity – exploiting a brigade’s depleted infantry and a muddled battlefield assessment – to infiltrate the city via Zvirove. The crisis had to be swiftly dealt with by the brave lads of the 155th Separate Mechanised Brigade and the 68th Jaeger Brigade in order to avert a potential catastrophe," DeepState reported.

It was highlighted that the Russians intend to dig in, await reinforcements and seize control of Zakhystnykiv Ukrayiny (Defenders of Ukraine) Street.

As of the evening of 21 July, the relentless hunt for and annihilation of Russian sabotage groups persists.

Putin has a free 50 day window, hes pushing his men hard to steal what he can with that.

[fwc577]

LOL. That "Texas-is-too-woke" retard who moved to Russia? You know, the one who joined the Russian Military for a fast-track to citizenship so he could be a non-combat Welder and make Propaganda for Russia? Well, I'm sure you all know that after two weeks of training, he got sent to the front line. Within 48 hours, his family got their sack of potatoes since he was promptly killed by a drone. LOL.

[Edge-]

That's awful for his poor kids, but otherwise roflmao

[Iphie]

That's awful for his poor kids, but otherwise roflmao

I mean they're probably brainwashed little stepford wives to be so...

[Saradain]

Going to Russia to be "non-combat" anything is laughable. That man sure no longer is...a-woke. Kids always suffer from stupid decisions of adults. Especially if their US citizenship got revoked by parental choice. Enjoy growing up to be meat shields, if male. But seeing they are "just" women-to-be, mother Russia has prepared them for fodder to state-supported domestic violence.

Context being, russian authorities adviced women to tolerate beatings and to kiss their deployed husband's feet to thank them for being heroes of Russia.

[Elenos]

Welcome to day 1,237 of the 14-day special operation in Ukraine, comrades. America has given us 50 more days to finish two week operation. But what is the fat, American Клоун going to actually do? Chicken out? KEK.

What is the man in charge of the strongest global economy that has vast power over the world's financial institutions going to do?

You really don't want to find out what America can do.

What he has said he will do is implement secondary sanctions on everyone buying oil or goods from Russia, that won't be a trade war, that will be a nuke right in middle of the global economy given India, China and even Europe do still buy things from Russia. Get's even worse when you start considering agriculture and fertilizer. Make no mistake Russia will suffer but so will millions around the world.

What he COULD do? Well maybe it's time for Ukraine to get some Tomahawk cruise missiles, maybe open America's armories and tell Ukraine it can have whatever it wants. Hey those F-117s are retired right? Flyable still.

Why doesn't he do it now? Because it will hurt everyone like hell including the US ( and yes the US military has a lot of things it needs right now ), but crucially Russia's trade partners.

America has actually been NICE for the last 2 decades, you really don't want to start seeing what happens when they stop giving a damn.

[Corvus]

You do know that that the EU has also just announced secondary sanctions on refineries that take russian oil, process it and then sell the fuel to places that have sanctions on russian oil.

[Elenos]

You do know that that the EU has also just announced secondary sanctions on refineries that take russian oil, process it and then sell the fuel to places that have sanctions on russian oil.

It's an extension of what has already been done. What Trump is proposing is far bigger.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/comm...at-2025-07-22/

So even though, on paper, the new price cap could collectively reduce Russia’s oil revenue, in reality, the new EU measures are unlikely to choke off Moscow's financial lifeblood.

One way to hit Moscow’s finances would be for President Trump to implement the "secondary sanctions" he threatened last week, whereby countries that buy oil from Moscow will be hit with 100% tariffs unless the Kremlin reaches a deal to end the war in Ukraine within 50 days.
These secondary tariffs mean any country buying Russian oil would face severe restrictions on its ability to trade with the world's largest economy.

Would Trump actually take this drastic step?

Trump has expressed significant frustration with Russian President Vladimir Putin in recent weeks. And given that the multiple rounds of EU and U.S. sanctions on Russia have had a limited impact on Moscow’s war chest, secondary sanctions could be one of the few effective tools left.
But in a global energy market, this effectiveness is precisely the problem.

If this drastic escalation of the West's economic war on Moscow were to severely curtail Russia's oil exports, this would also likely lead to a sharp increase in global oil prices and higher inflation – two things the U.S. president certainly does not want.

And that’s likely why – despite all these developments – Moscow and oil traders both appear relatively unfazed for now.

Basically what Trump is saying: If you buy oil from Russia we'll hit you hard on any trade you want with us, what Europe is doing is basically banning oil purchases from Russia or third party oil that is based on Russian crude.

[Kaleredar]

It's an extension of what has already been done. What Trump is proposing is far bigger.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/comm...at-2025-07-22/



Basically what Trump is saying: If you buy oil from Russia we'll hit you hard on any trade you want with us, what Europe is doing is basically banning oil purchases from Russia or third party oil that is based on Russian crude.

That would be real keen if it were literally anyone else on the planet other than Donald Trump.


Last time Trump promised something it was to release the Epstein list, how’s that going?

[Jastall]

It's an extension of what has already been done. What Trump is proposing is far bigger.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/comm...at-2025-07-22/



Basically what Trump is saying: If you buy oil from Russia we'll hit you hard on any trade you want with us, what Europe is doing is basically banning oil purchases from Russia or third party oil that is based on Russian crude.

Trump has the time to change his mind a couple hundred times before anything is actually in effect. He's not exactly known for his consistency in terms of policies, least of all in matters of Russia and Ukraine.

If he actually does go through, sure, that's one step that I don't mind being taken, albeit it doubtless will have collateral damage. The trouble is, all he probably cares about is that the fighting stops for now, even if for a meaningless white peace that serves as barely more than an armistice, so that he can take credit for it. Long term strategy is not his forte in the least. So I'll not remain even vaguely optimistic anything will be resolved.

[Doomcookie]

LOL. That "Texas-is-too-woke" retard who moved to Russia? You know, the one who joined the Russian Military for a fast-track to citizenship so he could be a non-combat Welder and make Propaganda for Russia? Well, I'm sure you all know that after two weeks of training, he got sent to the front line. Within 48 hours, his family got their sack of potatoes since he was promptly killed by a drone. LOL.

I can't seem to find a reliable report of this. Where did you read this?

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I can't seem to find a reliable report of this. Where did you read this?

Well, the Maltese Herald (no idea how reliable of a source that is) initially reported that he was killed...but they have updated their story with his wife claiming that her husband is still alive and she spoke with him recently. Of course, It is Russia...so I'm not going to make any claims that she wasn't "compelled" to say so.

https://themalteseherald.com/2025/07...ed-with-drone/

The wife of Derek Huffman, Deanna Huffman, has denied that her husband has been killed in action and claims to have also spoken with him. Another source that is unrelated to us, had also received the same information. We have also requested copies of the footage and imagery of the incident. Her denial is published below.

Also, apparently the "Texas is too woke" thing may have just ben a smokescreen anyway. Apparently, he was being chased by bankruptcy court.

The reason why Derek Huffman fled the US with his family may be different from the official reasons he provided. Court cases online show that Derek Huffman from Texas was being chased by bankruptcy Court but we could not confirm if he is the same person.

Separately, journalist Natalia Antonova, confirmed that the couple had declared bankruptcy before they fled the US.

[fwc577]

Also, apparently the "Texas is too woke" thing may have just ben a smokescreen anyway. Apparently, he was being chased by bankruptcy court.

But at the end of the day, isn't most of the right-wing just grifters? Leaving Texas because it was too "woke" but in reality fleeing because of bankruptcy court just sounds like a grift of some sort. So he fits with the crowd fully.

Well, the Maltese Herald (no idea how reliable of a source that is) initially reported that he was killed...but they have updated their story with his wife claiming that her husband is still alive and she spoke with him recently. Of course, It is Russia...so I'm not going to make any claims that she wasn't "compelled" to say so.

I hope he is still alive and I hope he stays alive long enough for Ukraine to get a supply drop from America and dies to American weapons. That would be the ultimate irony.

[alach]

Well heres some terrible, albeit old news.

Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia

A previously unreported order by Elon Musk to cut satellite communications over a portion of Ukraine disrupted a counteroffensive by Kyiv in the autumn of 2022. Reuters investigated the billionaire's order and its implications for countries increasingly reliant on his Starlink internet service.

Strangely enough it was off yesterday as well, for about 4 hours. Between the muskrat, trump, and putin, how Ukraine manages to hold on is inspiring.
I guess I should have posted this in the Elon thread...

[Doomcookie]

Well, the Maltese Herald (no idea how reliable of a source that is) initially reported that he was killed...but they have updated their story with his wife claiming that her husband is still alive and she spoke with him recently. Of course, It is Russia...so I'm not going to make any claims that she wasn't "compelled" to say so.

https://themalteseherald.com/2025/07...ed-with-drone/



Also, apparently the "Texas is too woke" thing may have just ben a smokescreen anyway. Apparently, he was being chased by bankruptcy court.

They also may have file bankruptcy, just to run away "clean."

That site seems very sketchy, and any links circle back to itself.

[alach]

Trump just said on live tv that he is reducing the deadline for putin down to 10 days from today.

He could be full of shit like usual, but he is talking to Starmer in Europe and usually listens to the last person he talks to, so maybe something good will come from this.
He said he will set up food centers in Gaza as well, and lots of other random weird things.

... And oh god, he went off the rails. A reporter asked him about the soccer match and he rambled into "Six months we had a dead country, transgender everywhere..." and all the rest.
Starmer looks like the friend of a couple in the middle of a horrible arguement and both are begging him to take sides.

Oh trump, you were *this* close to not being a total waste of a skinbag.