Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Vampiregenesis]

We have over 1700 examples of why your "instinct" isn't worth a great deal. They range from "a bit wrong" to "fucking laughable". I think I'll wait for time to prove you wrong. Again.

I have never been proved wrong though. My predictions are 100% correct so far.

[alach]

I have never been proved wrong though. My predictions are 100% correct so far.

.........???!!!

We could go back and quote you on your vast ammounts of absolute malarky over the last couple years but I don't think any of us have that much free time.
Are you actually serious right now, admitting you have learned nothing??

[Vampiregenesis]

.........???!!!

We could go back and quote you on your vast ammounts of absolute malarky over the last couple years but I don't think any of us have that much free time.
Are you actually serious right now, admitting you have learned nothing??

As far as I recall I have only made one prediction, that Trump will be elected to buy time on the Russia war and achieve temporary peace for few years. So far I'm correct. Also, I have said many times that Russia is winning this war while all of you called me Pro-Russian or that my sources are Pro-Russian and again I'm correct since Russia advance so far and Trump is begging Putin for peace. Europe is lost and incapable to respond without the US.

Personal opinions and predictions are a different thing, we are talking about predictions here.

Most of you said that democrats will be elected and that Russia is about to run out of rockets, have its economy crippled or outright lose. Guess who is on the correct side so far.

[Pannonian]

Could it be that your 15 year old anger over germany/the EU is still clouding your judgement?

Now i dont think that the EU will fight alone... they are pragmatic. But switching fully on Trumps side?

[alach]

How can you call suffering over a million causalities in three years with 15% less land than intially "winning"?
I suppose, in the same way trump refers to everything he does as "winning" which is to say, ironically.

If any other war in history had those numbers after a larger country invaded a smaller country with one third the population and a fraction of the GDP, no one would ever, ever, in history, consider that to be "winning".

[Vampiregenesis]

Could it be that your 15 year old anger over germany/the EU is still clouding your judgement?

Now i dont think that the EU will fight alone... they are pragmatic. But switching fully on Trumps side?

People here don't understand that my sources are ultra neutral and mostly support Ukraine, yet these sources show clearly that Ukraine face a big challenge in the battlefield, things are looking very bad for Ukraine due to manpower shortages, they are even about to run out of ammunition. Russia has lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers but they have the system to replace them, they have production, they have 3949399393 tyrant states to support them (India, China, Africa, Iran, Turkey, even latin America) while Ukraine only has Europe. There are many European countries that play a blind eye on Russia oil transfer ships. China will never allow Russia to fall apart, it is existential for them too.

I think the Eurozone doesn't benefit Greece because we don't have control over our currency and the currency policy of EU benefits countries with already established/strong industrial base like Germany and doesn't allow countries like Greece who are behind to grow theirs and compete, it also inflates the price of goods with unfair competition. The sengen zone and free movement have costed us 500k+ qualified people who are never going to return, that's almost a genocide considering they studied for free in our country. That doesn't mean I hate Germans or Germany, I dislike the way my country works, that's all. The country is ruled by traitors and collaborators of ww2. I hate my leaders. Most countries who enter into the Eurozone have seen the cost of their products to increase for no real benefit.

[Pannonian]

People here don't understand that my sources are ultra neutral [...]

The sengen zone and free movement have costed us 500k+ qualified people who are never going to return, that's almost a genocide considering they studied for free in our country.

And this is the problem i have with your predictions. You might think you're ultra neutral with your analysis, but then you spout something like this...

Either way, we will know soon...

[Vampiregenesis]

How can you call suffering over a million causalities in three years with 15% less land than intially "winning"?
I suppose, in the same way trump refers to everything he does as "winning" which is to say, ironically.

If any other war in history had those numbers after a larger country invaded a smaller country with one third the population and a fraction of the GDP, no one would ever, ever, in history, consider that to be "winning".

It's 20%+ land and it will become much more if this continues because Russia is winning the attrition war, attrition wars are slow, the front will eventually bust and things will move faster from there. Russia has to keep a considerable force for NATO so they play it safe and slow. They have a lot of casualties but they can replace them, Ukraine can't do that, most have fled the country and they are granted a refugee status on the countries they go. Most try to avoid conscription.

Why does it matter if Russia's statistics are bad? they are still winning. Carthage and Ancient Greece were much better fighters than Romans but they still lost due to Roman overwhelming numbers, this is the same thing here. Russia has the ability to recruit tons of soldiers and send them to the battlefield, this is an important skill they have.

In the end, the only thing that matters is who is winning and in this case Russia also gains a very resource rich area too, not just more land or population.

[Elder Millennial]

Sad thing is, all of this could have been avoided had Obama been willing to be more firm when Russia started their crap considering we actually signed an agreement to defend them. Then Putin would have had a weaker start when Trump took office along with US having a stronger stance against Russia by default on that.

I think the whole world misunderstood what was going on at that moment.

The Russian invasion of Crimea/infiltration of Eastern Ukraine happened 6 days after the collapse of the Yanukovich regime.

Ukraine had no real government, the security services were functionally defunct as a whole lot of them booted with Yanukovich or defected to Russia.

Most people in the West and especially in the US knew very little about Ukraine, I mean the whole "They are Russians by another name" understanding of Ukraine was still the norm. This includes me.

Only as the Ukrainian resistance started to solidify and the whole thing started to look like a border war did the world start to realize that Ukraine is a real thing, and that they are not in fact Russians.

I think the expectation in DC was that Ukraine will fall back into the Russian fold fairly quickly after the Russians remove or neutralize the rabble rousers, so there was no real expectation that the conflict would evolve into what it turned into.

Also the "Reset button" delusions haven't faded yet in Washington and the "Sweet sweet cheap Russian energy" delusion was at its peak in Europe, diplomatic "achievements" nobody wanted to risk over some "doomed Russian v Russian conflict".

Hindsight is 20/20 and everyone fucked up due to sheer ignorance and wishful thinking delusions.

[Saradain]

I have never been proved wrong though. My predictions are 100% correct so far.

Is Russia capable to concede defeat at this rate? Nukes are coming...

Both Russia and Ukraine are incapable to carry high level coordinated attacks, these people are only skilled at defending. I think the US has unrealistic expectations from this counteroffensive, Ukraine can't pull a desert storm or a wermacht style blitzkrieg. One should question why Russia was able to take over donbass so easily during the start of the war, this is essentially why Ukraine can't finish this, the size of the land they took over is almost like a small country. Most likely Russian had local support from the citizens there, not sure what there is to free when the citizens themselves don't approve of you, these lands were lost on the political level first, their history was underestimated. On kiev, the residents actively resisted the russians.

not sure why people keep saying "starting ww3", it has already been started, Ukraine is just the first battle.

NATO is a military organization that has shown extreme aggression in the past where they were given the chance to do so, see libya, serbia, afghanistan, Iraq, these places were ruined forever. Also, it has openly stated that Russia is their primary enemy. I mean it's only natural for Russia to respond to this and prevent it before it's too late, isn't it?

Mandates and requests for aid to stop a genocide, you call them aggression. Classic vatnik with anti-West hate boner.

Yes, the annexation of Crimea was illegal and act of war, (although the Soviets gave it to Ukraine, not sure what happened there), however does it matter? did that justify going into a catastrophic war that you can't win for sure? The Russians didn't seem to plan to push their luck further than this.

Ukrainians should have remained cautious and simply not provoke further until the timing is better for them to act, I mean it was the only thing they could do just like the Finnish did, Lol... the Finnish were at the same situation as Ukraine and they joined Nato instantly because Russians were distracted with Ukraine. I think everyone can see the hypocrisy here.

I wonder if Ukraine surrendered the occupied lands to Russia and exited the war, would NATO accept it instantly just like it did with Finland?

I mean the army of Ukraine is strong and they have showed tremendous self sacrifice and faith to the west, if they can accept countries like sweden and finland, why they refuse Ukraine?

Because NATO is the US personal army.

Yeaaah another hate boner...

Russia was mandated to intervene too from the republics of donetsk, you probably forget about the part where they asked for russians to come. So according to your logic, is it fine I guess? or maybe the rebels on libya were more legit?

I haven't seen evidence anywhere that russia is commiting genocide intentionally besides bucha where I can't say if that was intended by the state, I can bring you up several massacres commited by nato countries on syria much worse than bucha. Would you accept them as genocide?

So far the civilian casualties on ukraine are normal considering the size of this war and weapons involved, missiles can miss targets or can be stopped and then drop to civilians, such casualties exist on russia controlled areas too. The history of war didn't start on 2022, war is a terrible thing and no matter how hard the armies involved try, there will be civilian casualties, that's why it's better if there is no war. There have been far worse wars than this historically which is surprising considering the amount of fire power countries have now.

There is no what aboutism, the russians if they lose or let nato get a solid settlement on ukraine, they may suffer the same consequences as libyans.

Ah yes, invading nation calling their own people to help invade more is a "mandate" to you. Propaganda boy.

tactical nukes are coming?

Putin issued an ultimatum to Europe and he threatens to take new measures. I think this is very serious.

Because Zelensky is a US pawn? Do you think the US would send hundreds of billions to a random guy?

Zelensky has already made unfathomable amount of money. I like how they try to arrest Ukrainians in the streets or those who try to flee but they themselves don't go to fight in the front.

NATO is an aggressive alliance and US and NATO is the same thing, they run it and exploit it for their own gains. Afghanistan, Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Vietnam, Cyprus. NATO has a good record of invasions and decimations of several countries, these countries didn't simply lose, they were decimated and there is military presence there to guard the exploitation of the resources that these countries have. Syria was the turning point of these series of wars and expansions, if the Russians didn't intervene, the party would not end there. Can you deny history itself?

Russia invaded Ukraine for a variety of reasons, grabbing territory and expanding in an imperialistic manner using history as an excuse is one of them, however I don't think they would go through all of this if the west wasn't active in Ukraine.

Wait, do you deny that Zelensky is a pawn of the US? that's not even a conspiracy, it's a fact.

If something is not following the US narrative it's either a conspiracy, paranoia or whataboutism, ok I get it. This forum has always been like this anyway.

Man, people died in Poland in a incident with a Russian rocket, where is your article 5?

None cares about what a paper and a signature says these days.

NATO are five countries, US, Canada, UK, France, Germany - the Saxon alliance, everyone else is pretty much a fodder meat for them and racially inferior. Now, if these inferior insignificant countries are trying hard to prove how good dogs they are, that's a dream situation for the saxon because they can sacrifice the fodder. It's the reason they are forcing us to send F-16 to Ukraine and antiair systems even though we are much smaller than them.

Putin can send some planes and bomb us and nothing will happen, they will a find a way to deescalate or blame it into something else, Putin is exploiting this, that's why he is doing war in the first place because he knows very well that none is going to react seriously to it unless a prime saxon target is hit. Putin of course still has no reason to attack our country.

I can't believe there are people who still consider article 5 legit.

How's that for you being wrong? I was going through your entire post history and realized that holy fucking shit, you are insane. You ramble like Trump going between conspiracy theories and being absolutely wrong at every turn. Anti-NATO, Anti-West, you got every vatnik ace in your sleeve.

Very neutral sources indeed, just unhinged tinfoil hat shitposting.

Guys, something really bad is coming, Putin is sending Iskander rockets to Iran. WW3 in 2-3 days.

Ah yes, had to include this gem too. Prophet indeed!

[Vampiregenesis]

Mandates and requests for aid to stop a genocide, you call them aggression. Classic vatnik with anti-West hate boner.



Yeaaah another hate boner...



Ah yes, invading nation calling their own people to help invade more is a "mandate" to you. Propaganda boy.













How's that for you being wrong? I was going through your entire post history and realized that holy fucking shit, you are insane. You ramble like Trump going between conspiracy theories and being absolutely wrong at every turn. Anti-NATO, Anti-West, you got every vatnik ace in your sleeve.

Very neutral sources indeed, just unhinged tinfoil hat shitposting.

Thanks for promoting me, these are mostly opinions, not predictions but still

Ukraine failed miserably on its "big" overhyped counteroffensive on 2023 and sacked Zaluzny so I was correct, actually Ukraine paid a really big price for this offensive, it would do better if it just stayed on the defensive and slowly grind Russians, most analysts agree with this.

Nukes did not come but Oreshnik was launched, a terrifying weapon that scared the west

WW3 has indeed started, there are conflicts everywhere and new ones will open, if there is not an official ww3 now, there will be one in 5 years or so, not sure what WW3 is for you.

Zelensky is a US pawn so far and signed a deal to give his country's resources to the US, if he resists Trump's deal today, I may think differently of him

Nothing vatnik about NATO, NATO is indeed that but I don't think about Russia or Soviet Union any better, they also have invaded and destroyed/genocide many places, what I'm saying is that NATO doesn't have the moral high ground over Russia. They are exactly the same, they will pillage and destroy if that serve their interests.

Man,, cmon, NATO is a few countries in reality, do you think that the west would respond the same if lets say Russia invaded Britain or Italy or Germany? they behave like this because Russia invaded a small slavic country. Why the west defends Israel against Iran who is not a member of NATO but doesn't do the same for Ukraine?

Why countries like Greece, Portugal, Romania and others are never called during these "European" meetings? you only see Germany, France, Italy, England(not even a member of EU).

Those who support NATO are not morally superior to those who support Russia, both are equally criminal, there is not a fair option currently. Maybeee an independent Europe could become something like this, I don't know about that, I still doubt it. I feel bad for Ukraine but then again I feel bad for Libya too who enjoyed a really high quality of life and then fell into chaos.

[Saradain]

Ding dong the crazed prophet goes cuckoo again. "Facts are not facts, but same time my insane opinions are facts!" - "If I'm right, it's a prediction. If I'm wrong, it's an opinion!".

[Timester]

We will see today. My instinct says that they support Trump's deal.

Not even fucking Trump knows what the deal is, your anti-German tirades are clouding your instincts.

[En Sabah Nur]

I have never been proved wrong though. My predictions are 100% correct so far.

What is it with this forum and people that think they are some sort of prophet? You're like the 3rd guy I've seen speak like this. How far up your own asses can you get.

[diller]

Sadly, realistically, there will be territorial losses.

I have a hard time seeing Ukraine agreeing to this, again the argument that they are in a bad bargaining position is irrelevant. At best I could see Russia keeping Crimea.

2. Ukraine joins the EU as well, and Russia gets no say on that.

Can't happen, there are rules for joining and Ukraine can't pass them - at best some kind of 'prospect membership' could happen.

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and I wouldn't be surprised if the European leaders are there to put pressure on Zelensky to accept the deal

You are really something else, holy shit...

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We will see today. My instinct says that they support Trump's deal.

Will you stop posting if you are wrong?

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People here don't understand that my sources are ultra neutral

You should look up "The Dunning-Kruger effect" - you are a textbook example.

[Elder Millennial]

I have a hard time seeing Ukraine agreeing to this, again the argument that they are in a bad bargaining position is irrelevant. At best I could see Russia keeping Crimea.

I don't know what the territorial concessions will be and what format do they take.

Whether it's a recognition of Russian sovereignty or just a temporary recognition of Russian control.

Again, I'm no head of state, and especially I don't know what the conversation is inside Ukraine and the Ukrainian government.

I'm just saying that looking at the status quo, I kinda feel that some sort of territorial concessions are going to happen. Yes, the Russians are exhausted, but so are the Ukrainians, half the country haven't had a single good night's sleep in months or more. The Russians really did ramp up drone production and winter is coming, and you can bet your ass that they'll do absolutely everything in their power to make life as miserable as humanly possible for the Ukrainians, they'll bomb every power station, every hospital, every play ground, every schoolyard this winter.

Right now, even if the whole of Europe ramped up air defense production to maximum and flooded Ukraine with it (count the US out of this effort) there's simply isn't enough capacity to deal with this drone shit.

I don't expect the Russians to gain any more significant ground militarily than they are gaining now, which is very little, but I'm concerned about the ramping up kamikaze drone campaign, and I can guarantee it to you that that's the same thing that keep Kyiv up at night, both figuratively and literally.

I expect that Zelensky backed by the EU will be bringing some kind of negotiating position to Trump which will include some kind of territorial gains for the Russians in some form.

I think for Kyiv the real issue is not territory, but security guarantees.

If they give up something, they need absolute certainty that that will be the end of it. That they won't be fighting the fucking Russians in 4 years again

Can't happen, there are rules for joining and Ukraine can't pass them - at best some kind of 'prospect membership' could happen.

The process is the process, the point is that the Russians won't get a say on it, now or ever.

[alach]

Sorry to change the topic, but I'm finished engaging with vampire. He's not worth the time, just a report post and move on to the important news of the day, like this....

Putin's Bodyguards Carried 'Poop Suitcase' to Alaska summit with Trump

Russian President Vladimir Putin's bodyguards reportedly carried a "poop suitcase" to collect his faecal waste during the Friday Alaska summit with US President Donald Trump, as reported by The Express US.

The unusual security measure was said to be aimed at preventing foreign powers from obtaining information about the Russian leader's health. "Putin's bodyguards collect his faecal waste and bring it back to Russia when the leader travels abroad," The Express US reported.

During Putin's meeting, strict security measures were in place to protect Putin. He was surrounded by bodyguards, and a number of steps were taken to protect him and Russian intel.

Citing investigative journalists Regis Gente and Mikhail Rubin in the French publication Paris Match, The Express US reported that members of the Russian President's Federal Protection Service (FPS) collect his human waste, including his faeces, store it in special bags, and carry it in dedicated briefcases.

Turns out putin is just as disgusting and low-class as trump, just in a totally different, but equally wierd way.
Oh wait, there is a pootin joke in here somewhere. Take it away mmo-champ heroes!

[Iliena]

Why countries like Greece, Portugal, Romania and others are never called during these "European" meetings? you only see Germany, France, Italy, England(not even a member of EU)

We are still part of Europe and it's United Kingdom not England.

I do like posters who get the basic fact's right... you don't seem to be in that camp.

[Elder Millennial]

Why countries like Greece, Portugal, Romania and others are never called during these "European" meetings? you only see Germany, France, Italy, England(not even a member of EU).

@Vampiregenesis

Because the scale of the support both diplomatically and militarily is less relevant.

That's why Finland and the likes get included despite them being smaller powers. They are just more involved with the cause.

Of the countries you listed only Romania has involved itself substantially and if any of the countries would like to involve themselves more, they'd be very much welcome to do so.

If you want a say, do more and you'll get one.

It's nobody's fault that Greece is full of morons like you and its still arming itself to fight a war with Turkey, don't blame others for the national mental illness of your country.

[Joszef Kiprich]

My predictions that were proven wrong, they weren't predictions, those were opinions.....

If you thought you've read it al. JFC.