Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Endus]

US protectorate to be more precise

Even that's completely out to lunch. You don't use the American dollar, you aren't American citizens by birth, nothing about Greece suggests it's a "US protectorate".

[alach]

He likes to complain about his country's culture being stolen by the evil western imperialists. For years it was the EU ruining all of Greece.

Meanwhile I'll enjoy my next Greek salad more than my Shopska salad and 5 star derailment, as usual.

[Vampiregenesis]

He likes to complain about his country's culture being stolen by the evil western imperialists. For years it was the EU ruining all of Greece.

Meanwhile I'll enjoy my next Greek salad more than my Shopska salad and 5 star derailment, as usual.

What? Western culture has nothing to do with Greece, it is primarily Roman. EU is the continuation of holy roman empire. Both Ancient and medieval Greece are different than what you see in the west right now. Medieval Greek culture exists to some extend in the Balkans, Ancient Greece is extinct. I don't know any country that use the direct democracy model and bans prisons. All of them are republics with centralized economies. There are many analysis out there that suggest our country would do better without the Euro so yes, the EU has ruined Greece, we are the only country in the EU that is still forced to operate under very tight rules and have fiscal surpluses for the next dozens years. I personally believe that the crisis will return after 2032. Some interests are locked now.

Are you a Bulgarian?

You will regret adopting the Euro. Just wait and see.

[Calfredd]

US protectorate to be more precise

As an American, this is news to me.

[Mayhem]

Lovely, the only ones responsible for how Greece is doing are, checks notes, everyone apart from Greece.

Why are nationalists always the most sub you can think of?

[postman1782]

US protectorate to be more precise

We have a treaty with them.

[PhaelixWW]

I only hope that the prices on electricity will drop because we pay some of the highest in the EU.

You do not.



This is what happens when you're afraid to fact check your assumptions.

[Endus]

What? Western culture has nothing to do with Greece, it is primarily Roman

This is absolute nonsense. You seriously don't do a quick Wikipedia or Google check before you say stuff, do you?

Greece is a Western nation. The "East" is not "Eastern Europe", it's the Near/Middle East (both terms cover the same region), and the Far East. Russia isn't "Eastern", culturally; it's Western too. If you're talking specifically about Europe, then there's a West and East there, but "Western culture" covers both. Same way there's Eastern Canada and Western Canada, but Canada's considered a Western nation, culturally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

Greece's culture is "Western culture". You have no idea what you're talking about.

[alach]

What? Western culture has nothing to do with Greece, it is primarily Roman. EU is the continuation of holy roman empire. Both Ancient and medieval Greece are different than what you see in the west right now. Medieval Greek culture exists to some extend in the Balkans, Ancient Greece is extinct. I don't know any country that use the direct democracy model and bans prisons. All of them are republics with centralized economies. There are many analysis out there that suggest our country would do better without the Euro so yes, the EU has ruined Greece, we are the only country in the EU that is still forced to operate under very tight rules and have fiscal surpluses for the next dozens years. I personally believe that the crisis will return after 2032. Some interests are locked now.

Are you a Bulgarian?

You will regret adopting the Euro. Just wait and see.

I really feel like I've been over this with you before.
Bulgaria will not regret joining the Euro as it has been linked with a fixed exchange rate to first the German Deutchmark then the Euro in an way to avoid another fiscal crisis like after 1991. As foolish as some leaders were/are, they were wise enough to realize they did not want to take responsibilty with the currency. Prices for goods and services are already high, on par with Western Europe, due in part to the Covid Inflation, poor infrastructure, corruption and of course, the subject of this thread. Adopting the Euro has already increased scrutiny with the finacial systems and seen results. All the reasons that the "The Euro will destroy Bulgaria" people are parroting are false, debunked, and come from the Kremlin, like many of your talking points. What happened to Greece was Greece's fault, not the Euro, or Turks, or the US, or whoever else. Take some responsibility for your country, and maybe some pride as well, because like most nationalists across the world, the ones to seem to hate their country the most are themselves while draped in its flag.

[Flarelaine]

And here I thought that Puerto Rico, Guam and Washington DC were the "almost US states". Along with Israel(according to most of our elected officials in the US).

Except Israel actually has votes in Congress.

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I really feel like I've been over this with you before.
Bulgaria will not regret joining the Euro as it has been linked with a fixed exchange rate to first the German Deutchmark then the Euro in an way to avoid another fiscal crisis like after 1991. As foolish as some leaders were/are, they were wise enough to realize they did not want to take responsibilty with the currency. Prices for goods and services are already high, on par with Western Europe, due in part to the Covid Inflation, poor infrastructure, corruption and of course, the subject of this thread. Adopting the Euro has already increased scrutiny with the finacial systems and seen results. All the reasons that the "The Euro will destroy Bulgaria" people are parroting are false, debunked, and come from the Kremlin, like many of your talking points. What happened to Greece was Greece's fault, not the Euro, or Turks, or the US, or whoever else. Take some responsibility for your country, and maybe some pride as well, because like most nationalists across the world, the ones to seem to hate their country the most are themselves while draped in its flag.

Bulgaria can thank Greece, though. After that debacle, all Euro applicants had to undergo a much more intense scrutiny to see if they had also cooked their books.

[Devonitar]

Railroad in Poland was sabotaged. Suspects are, let's say, usual.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...latest-updates

[Elenos]

This is what happens when you're afraid to fact check your assumptions.

Just on this particular point, not touching the 'protectorate' BS, but Greece does have some of the highest if not THE highest energy prices relative to income levels.

For reference here: I'm Romanian, we are close to Greece in prices and I can tell you: We DO feel it.

In a way Germany doesn't.

Rest of what he's saying is...well fantasy is underselling it.

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Loss of Pokrovsk is first actual strategic battlefield loss for Ukraine since 2022

Chasiv Yar, Bahkmut, Avdiivka.

But really those are the long drawn out battles that lasted months.

The MOST important strategic battle of the war since 2022?

Ocheretyne

A small town near Avdiivka. A small that that when Russia captured it in 2024 allow Russia to bypass vast portions of Ukraine's heavily fortified lines. Leading to the collapse of significant bastions that Ukraine had spent years preparing.

[Neufab]

Just on this particular point, not touching the 'protectorate' BS, but Greece does have some of the highest if not THE highest energy prices relative to income levels.

For reference here: I'm Romanian, we are close to Greece in prices and I can tell you: We DO feel it.

In a way Germany doesn't.

Switch his chart to PPS and you will find Greece is still below the EU average and power is relatively more expensive in Gemany than in Romania.

[PhaelixWW]

Just on this particular point, not touching the 'protectorate' BS, but Greece does have some of the highest if not THE highest energy prices relative to income levels.

But that's not because electricity prices are high, it's because wages are low.

Seems more appropriate to wish for higher wages than lower electricity costs if you're already lower than the EU average on electricity costs.

Nobody's going to magically get electricity that cheap, even in a low income area.

[alach]

Railroad in Poland was sabotaged. Suspects are, let's say, usual.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...latest-updates

And a gas tanker in Romania.

Romanian Danube village evacuated after tanker fire caused by overnight Russian strike on Ukraine's south
Russia continues to provoke.

You know what grinds my gears about Vampire's story? Its not that Greece is a reliable LNG port and connector. Its that they bought it from trump's America. I wonder why Canada couldn't get a deal in there... Anyways, more news, Ukraine just agreed to purchase 100 Rafale fighters over the next 10 years. ($$$!)

Letter to EU leaders from von der Leyen points to late 2026 as possible end of war in Ukraine

When planning financial assistance for Ukraine for 2026 and 2027, the European Commission is currently assuming that Russia's war against Ukraine will end in late 2026, according to a letter from European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen to EU leaders dated 17 November.

Source: European Pravda, citing the letter

Quote from von der Leyen: "The scale of Ukraine's financing gap is significant. According to preliminary projections from the International Monetary Fund – assuming the war ends by late 2026 and already accounting for all support pledged by the EU, member states and international partners – Ukraine will still face a massive shortfall that cannot be bridged without injecting new funding."

Not exactly sure how she came to that conclusion, but heres hoping.

[Gorsameth]

You know what grinds my gears about Vampire's story? Its not that Greece is a reliable LNG port and connector. Its that they bought it from trump's America. I wonder why Canada couldn't get a deal in there...

Google says Canada only has 1 LNG export facility that came online this year, with more in construction. So Canada might simply not have a lot of LNG to sell at the moment.

[Vampiregenesis]

Pistorious: This could be the last peaceful summer in Europe

https://www.ertnews.gr/eidiseis/diet...apanta-i-mosxa

I won't comment, I have said my opinion numerous times but we have a repetition of a very specific pattern here.

Turkish LNG delivery ship was hit by Russia on Odessa, they fear an explosion. A Romanian village was evacuated.

https://www.protothema.gr/world/arti...na-pasa-stigmi

This will go very well for us, let's see how we will deliver the LNG with Russians aiming on our ships.

Pete Hegseth had said that we are on 1939, there will be no ending in this, it will only get worse for years to come.

[Edge-]

Pete Hegseth had said that we are on 1939, there will be no ending in this, it will only get worse for years to come.

do you routinely listen to alcoholic tv hosts?

[Vampiregenesis]

It doesn't make sense anymore. On one hand Russia is performing terribly and actually losing on Ukraine. On the other hand, it will invade NATO and Europe next year.

https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1990353950705414301

[En Sabah Nur]

I see this thread gained a new prophet after the last one's demise.