Russian invasion of Ukraine

[DarkTZeratul]

The way it happened is that the russians got an anonymous tip off to his location, which russia struck. Ukraine media reported his death and money was transferred electronically. Russia has been doing this for years, buying Intel or paying for sabotage from inside Ukraine. Ukraine took advantage of it.

The fun thing is that not only did they successfully troll Russia, but in doing so they've called into question the trustworthiness of the entire system.

[Fugus]

If I were Ukraine, I would exploit hell out of this for as long as I could. Get Russia to fund Ukraines defenses while being fed bad Intel the entire time.

[alach]

Russia files diplomatic request asking US to stop pursuing oil tanker originally bound for Venezuela

Russia filed a formal diplomatic request that the United States stop pursuing an oil tanker originally bound for Venezuela that has evaded US custody for almost two weeks, two sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The demarche sent to the State Department on New Year’s Eve comes as the vessel, called the Bella 1, appeared on Russia’s official register of ships under a new name.

What an absolute joke of a story from top to bottom.

[Odinfrost]

Russia files diplomatic request asking US to stop pursuing oil tanker originally bound for Venezuela


What an absolute joke of a story from top to bottom.

Remember back in the 00 and early to mid 2010's, when a common joke was that the US would invade anything if there was even the slightest amounts of oil?
That's what is happening right there.

[Gorsameth]

Remember back in the 00 and early to mid 2010's, when a common joke was that the US would invade anything if there was even the slightest amounts of oil?
That's what is happening right there.

[LeGin v4]

In the correct thread...

If you say emboldened it means that they are now willing to do more things that they would not have done otherwise.

Putin is pursuing illegal (in breach of UN Charter Article 2(4)) annexation of land that is not Russia's while attempting to justify the annexation with a) lies (de-Nazification) and b) historical revisionism (Ukrainians are Russians).

The outcome of the war in Ukraine is not following a straight line from a to b. The path of the line has fluctuated, sometimes in favour of a positive outcome for Ukraine, sometimes in favour of Russia. Do you understand and acknowledge this?

True or false: Ukraine is in a weaker position under the Trump administration than it was under the Biden administration.

Of course, it goes without saying, Putin *has been* emboldened for decades. Well before the invasion of Ukraine in 2022: Crimea, assassinations on foreign soil, Georgia. Are you suggesting seriously I don't know this?

My point is that the Trump administration's actions (not just Venezuela - threatening annexation of Canada, the Panama Canal, Greenland, taking over the Gaza Strip all while undermining NATO) are *further* emboldening Putin. Cementing his position that the post WW2 International Rules-Based Order is irrelevant and "might is right".

Putin will be *further emboldened* in the knowledge that if this US administration has specific contempt for the IRBO (although whether it has ever been of importance to the US is another debate), it need also not apply to Russia. Increasing the likelihood of Putin a) sticking to maximalist demands, b) prolonging the war, c) intensifying nuclear signalling etc. etc. In short: "willing to do more things that they would not have done otherwise".

Now - the real question here is: was the US action in Venezuela legal or not. And there are different opinions - under US domestic law ('threat' from a "narco-terrorist" organisation, "self-defence" etc.) possibly, under international law, definitely not. That's what you should be considering.

My bad for not including the word "further" in front of "embolden" but, for the love of god, please do attempt to engage your brain.

When China, inevitably, invades Taiwan please be assured that my support will lie with the Taiwanese but not with this fucking evil US administration or the fucking dumb voters who facilitated its presence.

[alach]

So remember a week back when russia claimed Ukraine flew 91 drones towards putin's residence?
There was a lot of talk it was a false flag operation aimed at getting support for more vicious strikes on Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.
Trump was very angry about it, You can't just fly vehicles at people's domicles in an attempt to kidnap them!!! He said unironically.

Surprisingly, he actually believed the evidence from his own CIA.

'We don't believe that happened' — Trump dismisses Putin’s claim of Ukrainian attack on his residence

Europe is getting pissed off.
Greenland prime minister says 'enough' after latest Trump threat

"No more pressure. No more insinuations. No more fantasies of annexation, Nielsen wrote on Facebook late Sunday.

"We are open to dialogue. We are open to discussions. But this must happen through the proper channels and with respect for international law," the head of Greenland's government said.

Washington's unprecedented operation in Venezuela resulting in the capture of Nicolas Maduro has reignited fears for Greenland, which Trump has said he wants to annex, given its strategic location in the Arctic.

Unfortuately for Denmark, trump has invoked his national security excuse, which he uses to carry out all his illegal operations.
Even more unfortuate, there isn't much the EU can do at the moment.
European leaders appear torn in face of new world order after Venezuela attack

Criticism from others was possibly muffled for fear of attracting Trump’s displeasure when his support for Ukraine is still considered vital. The EU foreign affairs chief, Kaja Kallas, said: “The EU has repeatedly stated that Maduro lacks legitimacy, and has defended a peaceful transition. Under all circumstances, the principles of international law and the UN charter must be respected. We call for restraint.”

trump continues to break the world. When he finally (this year at this rate) ends the world order that kept the people of the Western Democracies happy in shopping malls and cozy in bed, he shouldn't worry, we will name it after him. Trumpocalypse, maybe, or the Trumpaclysm.

[Vampiregenesis]

I like how Denmark refused France offer to deploy EU troops in Greenland. https://militarnyi.com/en/news/franc...-in-greenland/

Greenland campaign is not far away. If it's lost, it will be another humiliation for Europe.

[Calfredd]

I like how Denmark refused France offer to deploy EU troops in Greenland. https://militarnyi.com/en/news/franc...-in-greenland/

Greenland campaign is not far away. If it's lost, it will be another humiliation for Europe.

I like how you keep claiming to not be pro-Putin and pro-Trump but keep acting to the contrary. "Actions speak louder than words" and so on.

[Endus]

I like how Denmark refused France offer to deploy EU troops in Greenland. https://militarnyi.com/en/news/franc...-in-greenland/

Greenland campaign is not far away. If it's lost, it will be another humiliation for Europe.

The only people it will humiliate are Americans. Particularly when it triggers NATO's Article 5.

[alach]

Hope you are learning Mandarin, cause if racist ass trump takes Greenland that will be the end of NATO and the Western alliances. America would become a rogue nation and the world's only superpower.
My only hope is that the American troops refuse the, at this point, inevitable orders when the time comes.

[Gabriel]

Hope you are learning Mandarin, cause if racist ass trump takes Greenland that will be the end of NATO and the Western alliances. America would become a rogue nation and the world's only superpower.
My only hope is that the American troops refuse the, at this point, inevitable orders when the time comes.

There are other ways to end this madness.

[Edge-]

I like how Denmark refused France offer to deploy EU troops in Greenland. https://militarnyi.com/en/news/franc...-in-greenland/

Greenland campaign is not far away. If it's lost, it will be another humiliation for Europe.

i like your framing of this

because it seems like the article indicates that france only started early discussions on this possibility (not actually offered) and denmark simply had no interest in discussing it, which makes sense.

but you're not a propagandist/useful idiot spouting russian propaganda, as you keep telling us

[alach]

I can't believe I was so stupid thinking for 4 years that Putin was the enemy and biggest threat to peace on Earth.
Though trump never kept his disdain for NATO or his hatred of democracies secret, I was fooled by the whole "checks and balances" shtick that turned out to be meaningless.

[LeGin v4]

There are other ways to end this madness.

Divine intervention? Machine overlords?

Hurr durr MAGAs / Comrade Poutine / The Driving-in-Reverse Emperor

Without wanting to go all Yuppie, it's enough to start excavating a bunker

[Vampiregenesis]

Hope you are learning Mandarin, cause if racist ass trump takes Greenland that will be the end of NATO and the Western alliances. America would become a rogue nation and the world's only superpower.
My only hope is that the American troops refuse the, at this point, inevitable orders when the time comes.

NATO is already dead, not sure why is so hard to accept it, article 5 is a bluff. Europe would have to unite and build an Euroarmy, this is the only way to gain some prestige back and be taken seriously by the other big players. Good luck doing this though with the current Europe.

Trump said he will deal with Greenland in two months: https://www.politico.eu/article/nato...eriksen-warns/

This is getting interesting. We are talking about Denmark here, not a balkan country who is used to war, Denmark was one of these north European countries with an ultra-high quality of life, these scandinavian countries were living in a bubble that conflict will never hit their door so they can rest and point fingers to others. Now they will have to defend their values for once in the battlefield.

[Deus Mortis]

The only people it will humiliate are Americans. Particularly when it triggers NATO's Article 5.

Sadly I think the world will do nothing if America does decide to take it. They sure as hell won't go to war over it. Putin has shown that you can just steal land(Crimea) and the world does almost nothing. Europe won't waste what little weapon stock piles they have left on America with Putin on their backdoor.

[LeGin v4]

Denmark was one of these north European countries with an ultra-high quality of life, these scandinavian countries were living in a bubble that conflict will never hit their door so they can rest and point fingers to others. Now they will have to defend their values for once in the battlefield.

You're kidding?

You're supposed to be a Euro-sceptic Greek, yep?

Umm.. in what way has your country defended its "values" in recent years?

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The blatant and obvious point you're missing is that the world as a whole would benefit, greatly, from Scandinavian leadership

If there's a side to pick, I'll be on theirs

[Vampiregenesis]

You're kidding?

You're supposed to be a Euro-sceptic Greek, yep?

Umm.. in what way has your country defended its "values" in recent years?

What? are you kidding me?

Back on 2020 we almost went to war over sea disputes, we have to deal with air and sea violations daily, we have been threatened with invasion and bombing countless times. When few drones violated the airspace of Esthonia, all of Europe was screaming, do you know that we have seen this hundreds of times from jets and ships and we had to deal with it completely alone? Europe doesn't even bother to help, I doubt they even know about it. This is why our pilots rank 1 on NATO, they have to deal with this crap endlessly.

You see, we invest tons of our GPD to military and we try to catch up in an arms race with a country much larger than ours who is also being supported/supplied with arms from Europe. If we didn't invest so much money in military like Denmark does then we would live in paradise too, these money would go to infrastructure and other growth projects. Now north European finally taste the poison that we do for ages.

Btw, Denmark was not burned to the ground like our country did back on WW2. (of course that's too old, but still...)

[LeGin v4]

what? Are you kidding me?

Back on 2020 we almost went to war over sea disputes

with fucking turkey

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a) you're a Ruzzkie troll
b) you're justifiably pissed at Northern European hegemony but unable to direct your anger in anything other than a ultra-nationalistic, self-defeating, fucking farcical diatribes that will not in the least way help your country or its people

either fucking way, get a grip