1. #5141
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    You are most correct in that statement. And me giving the US shit for all the things they do wrong should be testiment to that as well. It's great to live in the West, where actual freedoms and democracy are a thing and where you can tell each other you're wrong without being invaded.
    My god dude we invade sovereign nations on weak excuses all the time, that moral high ground you are standing on is actually sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    I think people that expect China to get in line with the West are a bit delusional.

    China will not go rogue just yet - after all their trade ties with West are very important, but they will support Russia as well. After all they have their own Ukraine to grab in a decade or so and they'd like some allies when time comes.
    Yeah their own Ukraine is the part of Outer Manchuria which is currently still part of Russia. Which has a much greater strategic value then taking Taiwan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    Your paranoid, holy shit
    Im 100% convinced everybody here is Russian or American, no other groups exist.

  4. #5144
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    And Crimea was fucking despicable.... so was Iraq.

    Once again, you just made my argument for me. The fact that they are cheering on such behavior, and supporting him... is an indictment against them.

    I'm literally judging people by their beliefs and actions.
    And you are too high on your own self righteousness as usual to see reality nowhere did I cheered or support such behavior. I empathize with the people in that situation and understand them something you seem unable to do.

  5. #5145
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    My god dude we invade sovereign nations on weak excuses all the time, that moral high ground you are standing on is actually sand.
    He's literally saying he condemns them when it happens...

    It's fucking weird that you people insist on pulling this shit in order to deflect from this invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    "Sure, I voted for Putin 4 times, but that doesn't mean I support him."

    Sorry, bro... it does.
    I do agree with your sentiment, but you know how elections work. They have dictator Putin, clown Zhirinovsky, and a couple of pretty much janitors because worthy opposition doesn't exist. Of course they elect the lesser evil for them.

    ... On the other hand yeah, Ukrainians elected Zelensky who isn't super competent but at least is anti-corruption. Cultural differences...
    Quote Originally Posted by Nobleshield View Post
    It's not 2004. People have lives, jobs, families etc

  7. #5147
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    And you are too high on your own self righteousness as usual to see reality.
    I'm literally seeing reality, and judging people based on that reality.

    You are making excuses for shitty behavior.

  8. #5148
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Im 100% convinced everybody here is Russian or American, no other groups exist.
    Im not murican nor russian.. im from swamp germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    I'm pretty sure Slant is German, they are definitely not American.
    Nope, 100% American poster. Everybody who is critical of Russia is American, everybody who is critical of europe/nato/US is Russian.

  10. #5150
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynep View Post
    I do agree with your sentiment, but you know how elections work. They have dictator Putin, clown Zhirinovsky, and a couple of pretty much janitors because worthy opposition doesn't exist. Of course they elect the lesser evil for them.

    ... On the other hand yeah, Ukrainians elected Zelensky who isn't super competent but at least is anti-corruption. Cultural differences...
    So, don't vote for murderous tyrants...

    It's not a high bar.

  11. #5151
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I'm literally seeing reality, and judging people based on that reality.

    You are making excuses for shitty behavior.
    The reality you made up since you know everything around the Russian people, their experiences and how they feel about Putin up to the minute.

  12. #5152
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    The reality you made up since you know everything around the Russian people, their experiences and how they feel about Putin up to the minute.
    I never said that, this is just a silly straw man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    Zelensky still demands for full withdrawal of Russian troops from everywhere including Crimea, This basically means a surrender for Russians right?

    Is this realistic considering that Russians control a decent amount of territory inside Ukraine and have the means to continue this war?

    I suppose this guy has decided to sacrifice himself in a leonidas fashion.
    Excellent. I like Zelensky more now

    You f*k off from everywhere, we don't join NATO. Fair. No? Let's see how long you can last.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nobleshield View Post
    It's not 2004. People have lives, jobs, families etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmp View Post
    Poor Russia :'(

    Would Russia be saved if someone shot Putin?
    He needs to be tried and hanged like Saddam for war crimes but I think his own people will end him before it gets to that.

  15. #5155
    Holy shit lol

    "If Putin wants to kill himself he doesn't need nuclear arsenal, he can just do what that guy in Berlin did in 1945" - Ukraine representative to the UN

  16. #5156
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I never said that, this is just a silly straw man.
    That's what you are implying and you've been putting words in my mouth to suit you.

  17. #5157
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Except when by the time you reach for a rock your enemy is already entrenched in occupied territory.
    Not sure what your point is. Did you want Germany to invade Russia based on a hunch? Or are you pretending hindsight isn't 20/20 now?
    Users with <20 posts and ignored shitposters are automatically invisible. Find out how to do that here and help clean up MMO-OT!
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  18. #5158
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    That's what you are implying and you've been putting words in my mouth to suit you.
    No, it's not what I'm implying. I'm literally saying that is not the case, and you are simply choosing to read what you want.

    I. DO. NOT. THINK. ALL. RUSSIANS. ARE. EVIL.

    So, let me know if you need it more bluntly.

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    So what? Brazil, the US and the UK all picked clowns lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    Holy shit lol

    "If Putin wants to kill himself he doesn't need nuclear arsenal, he can just do what that guy in Berlin did in 1945" - Ukraine representative to the UN
    I saw a tweet a few days ago with a similar sentiment. "Let's just fast forward to when you shoot yourself in a bunker."
    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpresident View Post
    My words exactly. Manufacturing in the US is considerably more expensive than elsewhere, and part of that are savage regulations such as environment protection or minimum wages.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderaan View Post
    Saying that Wilson is a racist murderer is the same level of conspiracy as saying Sandy Hook didn't happen and the parents are in on it.
    I don't post that often, and when I do it's often in bursts. I always lurk though.

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