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Nope you made that shit up, I am against how you are defining millions of people and how they are behaving under a dictator.
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The war in Iraq and Afghanistan had wide support, I and many others were called traitors for opposing it.
"Ukraine security company promised to pay $1000 to anyone who destroys a Russian tank, $500 – any other enemy vehicle"
https://twitter.com/forbes_ukraine/s...86890361012229
That's one way to inspire people I guess
You can disagree all you like, I don't give a shit. They have access to outside information, and just because they choose to ignore it, is not a good defense.
The same goes for all the Trumpsters. They are also complicit.
People seem to think that Russians are completely blocked off from the rest of the world, and don't have access to outside information. Russia is not North Fucking Korea.
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Ukraine is trying to join the EU asap. IF they manage to do it that means serious support from the other EU states. We are not far from ww3, actually it is already happening.
Yes, America is terrible, it skirts the edges of right wing authoritarianism constantly, while playing an Imperial world police, it's a martial state with a military industrial complex. And Americans love it, they love Guns, pretending they're meeting out justice, and playing wargames and watching war movies. The redeeming feature is that they actually prefer the idea of surgical strikes, precision warfare, and special forces manoeuvres over full scale invasions and launching Grad missiles and MLRS cluster munitions at residential apartment blocks.
Afghanistan was a rather unique set of circumstances with almost global support. Iraq however was not, and it devastated the UK government at the time for its support, so much so our previous interventionalist doctrines were all but scrapped.
I'd love to see a million people marching in Moscow. I'd love for Putin to pay attention to it unlike how Blair ignored it. Neither of those things will happen.
And so the whataboutism is pointless.
Replying to the second line: I personally agree with you on this, but in reality it already happened the opposite way. Some context first.
Historically, all eastern Slavs belonged to one pre-feudal state called Rus'. Then feudalism arrived, fragmentation and squabbles rose, then Mongols came and Rus' got rekt.
BTW if anyone wonders what's up with the apostrophe, it means a different sound. Imagine you're saying "Lucia" but stop before saying 'i' while 'c' is pronounced as if 'i' is there. That's a common Slavic sound, different from both 's' and 'sh'. Now change the 'L' to 'R' and you can say Rus' like a native
After Mongols, northeast became Mongol/Tatar vassals, central/southern parts were gradually amicably incorporated into Lithuania, and southwesternmost part, now western Ukraine, survived for a while, even got recognized by Pope as "Regnum Rusiae" before succumbing to Poland. Note one 's' just like in Belarus, the nations are so close that I can read Belarusian texts without ever learning the language, vocabulary is nearly identical, feels like ridiculously mispronounced Ukrainian (you bet it's the same for Belarusian speakers). I'm told Danish and Norwegian languages are in a similar situation.
OK, eventually all modern Ukraine was under foreign rule and didn't have or need a name. By late 19th century, most of former Rus' was under Russia who (falsely) styled themselves "tsar of all Rus'", and smaller part under Austria. In Russian Empire, printing in Ukrainian language was illegal, and people of southern Rus' were called "small Russians". Pretty annoying, I imagine.
So, TLDR, on the turn of 20th century European empires were unstable and nation-states were in vogue, and I'll skip the russophile/ukrainophile thing here, to oversimplify, Ukrainian founding fathers were so butt-hurt over "small Russians", and with "Rossiya" already existing anyway, they chose to rename Rus' into Ukraine. Silly if you ask me. So yeah, I don't believe they'll rename it back.
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