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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    In a sign how desperate Putin is for propaganda, Russian government controlled media are claiming they found a "NATO laptop" in the HQ of some far-right Ukrainian group.
    If only this were the first time that Russian agents have used a "found laptop" as a political fraud.

    I mean, I guess a bunch of Americans believed it the last time, so why not try the trick again?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Why haven't I put you on ignore yet? It's abundantly clear you're not here for any sort of serious discussion. Just how many rubles are you being paid?

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    In a sign how desperate Putin is for propaganda, Russian government controlled media are claiming they found a "NATO laptop" in the HQ of some far-right Ukrainian group.

    It's a 14 year old laptop that came with Windows Vista and 250mb of RAM. And their "proof" that it's a NATO laptop is a crappy sticker they slapped onto it.
    So are you saying that this guy who is a colonel has been paid to say this?

    Tbh, there are some news floating around about what will happen with Zelensky after Kyiv falls.

    See this too

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...6f591e7121%2F0

    Is this Kremlin propaganda too?

    Well, I'm not with Putin but things don't look well for Ukraine right now. The west clearly doesn't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    The west clearly doesn't care.
    I don't think your word means anything when it comes to what the west cares about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    If only this were the first time that Russian agents have used a "found laptop" as a political fraud.

    I mean, I guess a bunch of Americans believed it the last time, so why not try the trick again?
    I mean hell, people did web searches for that "NATO IT Asset" sticker and the only result was this laptop.

    Even if NATO was giving laptops to Ukraine, I doubt they would be giving them the computing equivalent of a God damn fossil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I mean hell, people did web searches for that "NATO IT Asset" sticker and the only result was this laptop.

    Even if NATO was giving laptops to Ukraine, I doubt they would be giving them the computing equivalent of a God damn fossil.
    Yes, it's entirely amateur Russian theater.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    Tbh, there are some news floating around about what will happen with Zelensky after Kyiv falls.
    You said Kyiv would fall last weekend...and now another weekend has passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You said Kyiv would fall last weekend...and now another weekend has passed.
    Inflation has hit russia pretty hard. They're losing days now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    If only this were the first time that Russian agents have used a "found laptop" as a political fraud.

    I mean, I guess a bunch of Americans believed it the last time, so why not try the trick again?
    Anecdotal evidence, but I have held a NATO laptop in my hands because of a mixup in airport. Guess what - no stickers screaming NATOOOO on it. How do I know it was NATO's? Because I got in touch with the person responsible for fixing the mixup by having our supplier contact manufacturer who found the owner via serial number, then sending the laptop to one of the actual NATO HQ's and receiving ours back from them.
    And they sure as shit won't use something that old in 2022, even if simply because that thing has a real risk of just dying in the field from HDD or capacitor failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Yes, it's entirely amateur Russian theater.
    I am pretty sure the average smartphone has more computing power than that fossil.

    I am not even sure what the point of this propaganda is unless Putin is trying to manufacture a pretext to declare war on NATO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I am pretty sure the average smartphone has more computing power than that fossil.

    I am not even sure what the point of this propaganda is unless Putin is trying to manufacture a pretext to declare war on NATO.
    A lot of people believe in less proof than this. I even doubt this spectacle was made by anyone in Moscow, probably local geniuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I am not even sure what the point of this propaganda is unless Putin is trying to manufacture a pretext to declare war on NATO.
    No, he's just trying to justify the invasion of Ukraine as a defense against NATO "aggression".

    Typical doublespeak.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I am not even sure what the point of this propaganda is
    It's just shit that's meant to be consumed at home. I doubt they really believe something like this would work on many foreigners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I am pretty sure the average smartphone has more computing power than that fossil.

    I am not even sure what the point of this propaganda is unless Putin is trying to manufacture a pretext to declare war on NATO.
    Mostly these things are for local consumption.

    There are also people who watch RT and online Russian channels abroad, but it's mostly ex-Soviet boomers who want to feel like they belong to something or some fools for the same reason.

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    BBC is reporting that Russia is recruiting Syrian mercenaries to take part in urban warfare.

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    Russia: "We're here to denazify Ukraine"
    Also Russia: "We're gonna hold public executions to make the people get in line"

    Russia: "We're here to protect people"
    Also Russia: *bombs a few schools, threatens to blow up a nuclear power plant*

    Russia: "We're going to crush the Ukraine!"
    Also Russia: "Uh guys . . . where's the nearest gas station?"
    Putin khuliyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Putin will be busy blaming the west for the problems he created.
    He will be in good company with Americans saying this is all to blame on the US and we forced Russia to do this mess.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...s-sotu-vpx.cnn

    Like John Trapper..

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    UK MoD Intel is that Russia has made minimal gains over the past 48 hours, bogged down by resistance and logistical problems but they are undertaking heavy fire against Ukrainian cities with air and artillery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    He will be in good company with Americans saying this is all to blame on the US and we forced Russia to do this mess.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...s-sotu-vpx.cnn

    Like John Trapper..
    That's not at all what he said, though, sorry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    He will be in good company with Americans saying this is all to blame on the US and we forced Russia to do this mess.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...s-sotu-vpx.cnn

    Like John Trapper..
    That's Jake Tapper. John Trapper is the doctor from M*A*S*H. Personally I preferred Hunnicutt, though.

    Also, is that really Tapper's look now, or did he forget his contacts? Glasses really do not work on everyone. Or at least those ones don't.

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    One thing I am wondering about is why do regular people care so much about this particular war that is happening now. Sure I consider it the most crucial event in the last 30 years and the end of the post-WW2 international order, or at least a major shake up of that order, but the average joe doesn't understand let alone appreciate that fact.

    So why is it that Ukraine's plight has captured the hearts of minds in a way no conflict in recent memory has? Even more then brutal ones like Checnya and Syria where Russia was/is part of did. Sure it makes sense for people in Poland, Romania and other eastern countries to care, since it affects us directly ( millions of refugees with a poor vaccination number is going to be a nightmare ), but West Europe? The US?

    Is it simply because Ukrainians are European and we couldn't care less if muslims/brown people are the ones dying? It's not the media attention since they focused HEAVILY on many conflicts over the years that got quite brutal but people didn't care as much then.
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