1. #781
    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodwolf View Post
    I mean in the end starting a war usually only makes sense for a nation if the economic outcome will be a guaranteed net positive. Hence the sanctions by the west. But still, I'm in my late 20's and served in the Austrian army, and all logic aside, I'm really afraid I'll be proven wrong since the current rhetoric suggests a certain amount of willingness by the west to take military actions.
    Very very few wars throughout modern history have yielded a net positive economically, with the exception of colonial ventures where the power disparity was such that one power could realistically defeat another with minimal or no loss of life or wealth. It might make a few people wealthy or wealthier, or achieve some type of abstract political goal, but almost nobody ever comes out of a war having made money off of it.

    The US after the two world wars is a massive historical anomaly and it messed with how the US relates to militarism for generations.

    War is remotely not as a rational act as you would think it is.

  2. #782
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Weren't you just in another thread talking about how peaceful the world is today? Then got upset and said I was cherry picking when I pointed out the 1700 were more peaceful?
    That was this thread actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    That was this thread actually.
    Dam when you can't even keep your shit straight in 1 thread...... @PC2 smdh......

  4. #784
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?!
    americans


  5. #785
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    americans
    Those look like YouTube replies. YouTube is on the internet, so those posts could be coming from literally anywhere. We don't even know if those posts are written by actual people and not bots.

    This is pretty sus, dude. Pretty sus indeed.

  6. #786
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    -Quotes from people he called racists
    So, your fellow Trumpsters.

    Remember, you called those people evil assholes and racists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    americans

    So random posts on the internet = Americans? Are only Americans on the internet?

  8. #788
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Those look like YouTube replies. YouTube is on the internet, so those posts could be coming from literally anywhere. We don't even know if those posts are written by actual people and not bots.

    This is pretty sus, dude. Pretty sus indeed.
    i doubt they're bots because a whole lot of people are expressing rage and skepticism for biden on putin (which is where that cited cut even came from), on topic. Man is about to invade Ukraine and Biden has only surmised he "might" invade and something something sanctions. Nothing about US war or military intervention.

  9. #789
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    i doubt they're bots because a whole lot of people are expressing rage and skepticism for biden on putin (which is where that cited cut even came from), on topic. Man is about to invade Ukraine and Biden has only surmised he "might" invade and something something sanctions. Nothing about US war or military intervention.
    You called them evil assholes. Now you ant to side with those people you deemed racists?

    Weird.

  10. #790
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    i doubt they're bots because a whole lot of people are expressing rage and skepticism for biden on putin (which is where that cited cut even came from), on topic.
    But how can you know? Bots can be pretty sophisticated nowadays, you ever cyber with a chatbot?

    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Man is about to invade Ukraine and Biden has only surmised he "might" invade and something something sanctions. Nothing about US war or military intervention.
    Yo, when are you signing up for bootcamp so you can fight the righteous fight?

  11. #791
    Report the obvious derailing.

  12. #792
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Yo, when are you signing up for bootcamp so you can fight the righteous fight?
    I'm already prepared to fight in the event of war against Russia-China. Every man should be with conscription in mind hypothetically. Then again, that's an "if" since again we would just launch nukes before ground warfare again.

    Also, the Ukraine president himself is angered by Biden's strange responses dancing around the Russian invasion topic

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/polit...ons/index.html
    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/19/p...nce/index.html

  13. #793
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I'm already prepared to fight in the event of war against Russia-China. Every man should be with conscription in mind hypothetically. Then again, that's an "if" since again we would just launch nukes before ground warfare again.

    Also, the Ukraine president himself is angered by Biden's strange responses dancing around the Russian invasion topic

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/polit...ons/index.html
    Imagine how angry he is with your guy's support of Putin taking over the entire country.

  14. #794
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    i doubt they're bots because a whole lot of people are expressing rage and skepticism for biden on putin (which is where that cited cut even came from), on topic. Man is about to invade Ukraine and Biden has only surmised he "might" invade and something something sanctions. Nothing about US war or military intervention.
    It's almost as if further escalation is what noone needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    i doubt they're bots because a whole lot of people are expressing rage and skepticism for biden on putin (which is where that cited cut even came from), on topic. Man is about to invade Ukraine and Biden has only surmised he "might" invade and something something sanctions. Nothing about US war or military intervention.
    You want to kill innocent people. Stop trying to pretend you are any better than someone like putin

  16. #796
    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    It's almost as if further escalation is what noone needs.
    what do you mean? If Putin takes over Ukraine and kills thousands, he'll do more after feeling empowered. China will annex Taiwan as well. Are we just going to sit back and watch? We have to fight.

  17. #797
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    what do you mean? If Putin takes over Ukraine and kills thousands, he'll do more after feeling empowered. China will annex Taiwan as well. Are we just going to sit back and watch? We have to fight.
    Who is this "we"? Are you going to deploy to Ukraine? Because i'm pretty positive you won't.

  18. #798
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    what do you mean? If Putin takes over Ukraine and kills thousands, he'll do more after feeling empowered. China will annex Taiwan as well. Are we just going to sit back and watch? We have to fight.
    Trump supports that, he has said as much.

    You support that, you have said as much.

  19. #799
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    We have to fight.
    So sign up for basic training now! What are you doing on these message boards, you have to be ready to fight at a moment's notice! Enlist if you're so serious about this!

  20. #800
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    what do you mean? If Putin takes over Ukraine and kills thousands, he'll do more after feeling empowered. China will annex Taiwan as well. Are we just going to sit back and watch? We have to fight.
    Why do you insist on wanting to kill innocent people?

    Of course, since you say we need to fight. You should enlist in the military. Otherwise, you are simply not to be believed.
    Last edited by Machismo; 2022-01-20 at 06:40 PM.

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