Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Afrospinach]

Like electric and hybrid car manufacturers?

Electric Car Sales Rise Amid Record-High Gas Prices

Solar energy manufacturers and installers are also having a field day. We started installation of our solar panel/battery/heat pump system today. According to the foreman, the company is booked solid to the end of the year.

Push the price too high, and those producers ended up losing customers, permanently.

https://carbonengineering.com/

These guys are price competitive a 4$ a gallon.

[Rasulis]

Huh. That reminds me about something Biden did recently...


Oh, right!

At the time, I said:


And now, we may have a much higher chance of achieving it.

Yeah. We have had our Honda Insight for a little over a year. The dealer just offered to buy it back for the purchase price. My wife's reaction was "huh?"

[PhaelixWW]

Guess where that electricity that powers said cars comes from.

Gas to electricity in a power plant then used in an electric vehicle is still more efficient and less polluting than all gas vehicles.

And then, not all electricity is from natural gas, either.

[Gaidax]

It depends on where you live, actually. A lot of folks can have their own solar that they primarily use, and others have options to use cleaner energy providers depending on where they're at.

I have a few friends with elecritcs/hybrids and they're almost all charged off of clean energy. A few have solar roofs/batteries, and the others are using provides that get the majority of their energy from renewables.

This is a really lazy "own" on the topic since the whole point is that we're increasingly moving towards cleaner energy sources and, and even if they're getting them from dirtier sources the data largely shows lower emissions compared to internal combustion cars - https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/el...-vehicle-myths

Again for the eepteenth time, how does it change the reality you live in right now?

What, your electric cars, clean renewable energy power plants and solar farms going to conjure themselves tomorrow?

It's not about "owning", it's about looking at some replies here and genuinely wondering if people live in some sort of la la land.

Energy prices are everything and so it happens that right now the world is practically running on fossil fuels, despite the relatively recent advents in alternative sources of energy that get stalled every step anyway.

This is going to take decades to even partially replace fossil fuels dependency. It's nowhere near being a "solution" within a scope of this topic.

[Breccia]

Is this a big joke for you, a game?

Well, your posts are all alarmism and defeatism in the face of Big Bad Putin, so, yes.

Gas prices are at a high and staying there...while Putin is watching oil companies flee in disgust. Still not $200. So no, I don't see $300 until he cuts off the supply entirely and loses access to the high prices. Let him. It'll be hilarious.

[Edge-]

Again for the eepteenth time, how does it change the reality you live in right now?

On a personal level? No more trips to the gas station.

On a broader societal level? Not a ton, but with enough people making the move (which needs to be A LOT) it reduces the demand for gasoline.

This is going to take decades to even partially replace fossil fuels dependency. It's nowhere near being a "solution" within a scope of this topic.

Is...anyone talking about this as an imminent solution or something? I haven't kept up with all the posts here, but they'd be wrong to say so if they are.

[Ripster42]

On a personal level? No more trips to the gas station.

On a broader societal level? Not a ton, but with enough people making the move (which needs to be A LOT) it reduces the demand for gasoline.

Gaidax is a tool, but you're completely missing the point that should be abundantly obvious: the things you're talking about don't presently exist in the quantities that would be needed to not have prices spike highly while banning russian energy from the market. Whether that's a point that's relevant to your immediate concerns or not is another story, but you're completely talking past the point instead of addressing it.

[Logwyn]

I understand that, but I thought Breccia meant that Russia currently has 3 million troops, and for that to be true they would need to include reservists if my understaning of current strength is correct.

Martial law AND occupying will never be feasible given the circumstances. Either there are too few in Russia or too few in Ukraine.

Russia has 3 million military counting reserves. They can raise about another 50 million in the military-age population if they wanted. Just an FYI the US can match that just calling men and double it if they call up women.

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Sorry, but we just can't believe the people that spent 2 years saying "But Biden will cancel Medicare ...".
Now saying "sanctions wont work".

Podcasters are terrible sources and clearly making their fans dumber. Either horsepaste levels of dumb, or close to it.

Podcasters, talk radio hosts, many media talking heads, and streamers' sole purpose is to make money and sell advertising. They get by by talking about anything that will keep the ratings up and the cash flow coming in.

[Logwyn]

Just as I am getting tired of people reading into it whatever they want, it's not an excuse but fact that people tend to worry more about their own immediate issues before anything else.

Can't someone do both?

[Belize]

If I get called back into service I won’t be happy. I kinda loathe MREs.

FWIW, U.S. MREs have gotten a lot better in the past couple years. Still nowhere near the gourmet shit Europe gets, but at least the veggie omelet is gone for good.

[Poopymonster]

FWIW, U.S. MREs have gotten a lot better in the past couple years. Still nowhere near the gourmet shit Europe gets, but at least the veggie omelet is gone for good.

My friends who served in Afghanistan and around the ME said if I sent a care package, make sure to include Sriracha. Lots of it. A box of just Sriracha please. Makes MREs not-as-shitty.

[Gaidax]

Nobody here is going to be on any MREs anytime soon, aside from maybe Super.

P.S. Tuna is best.

[snebb]

Zelenskyy has called back peacekeepers from DRC. 480 soliders 'and all equipment'. (4x MI24 and 4x MI8 choppers).

[Ripster42]

Russia has 3 million military counting reserves. They can raise about another 50 million in the military-age population if they wanted. Just an FYI the US can match that just calling men and double it if they call up women.

Who's running production in this scenario? They've got less than 150m people. You can't call up 1/3 of a country. They'd be dead of starvation in the "there's zero people working the fields to grow food, let alone anything else that an army needs" sense of dead. Even in WW2 they didn't draft 1/3 of their citizens, and their demographics were a lot more pyramid rather than top shaped (as they are now) in that war.

[PC2]

Well, your posts are all alarmism and defeatism in the face of Big Bad Putin, so, yes.

Defeatism is unwarranted since Putin can easily be defeated over the medium/long-term. But it is hard to see any pathway to (military) victory for Ukraine over the short-term, so I don't see how you can fault Easo for that.

[Jastall]

EDIT: I'm a dumbass, wrong thread.

Anyway I'm hoping those talks lead somewhere, but not optimistic. Putin doesn't win from getting a half-victory after committing so much to this invasion. And yes, as some posters said the American State Department is laughing themselves silly at Putin right now, but still Russia having to become China's vassal is not a good thing for the long term.

[Rasulis]

Well, your posts are all alarmism and defeatism in the face of Big Bad Putin, so, yes.

Gas prices are at a high and staying there...while Putin is watching oil companies flee in disgust. Still not $200. So no, I don't see $300 until he cuts off the supply entirely and loses access to the high prices. Let him. It'll be hilarious.

Like I said, oil producers like high prices, but not so high that they drive the consumers away.

Oil industry targets production hikes as U.S. tightens screws on Putin

OPEC will follow suit soon. Either that, or risk ceding markets to US.

The price will go up still. The world can't replace 10% of its oil supply overnight.

[Mazza]

If I get called back into service I won’t be happy. I kinda loathe MREs.

At least yours won't have expired a decade ago

[Shadowferal]

At least yours won't have expired a decade ago

If I recall they're more...chewy when they're that old.

[Kathranis]

All you're doing here is trying to shift the blame away from Russia's revanchist foreign policy for this war. Not everything that happens in the world is the "West's" fault. Leave it to Americans to be so narcissistic and self-centered that they have to make themselves the root of all problems in the world.

No, I'm not. Nothing I said is blaming the West and certainly not more than the Russia. Obviously Russia is the aggressor and the invasion is beyond unjustified. I'm just telling people to be realistic about the West's interests here, because the West certainly doesn't care about Ukrainian sovereignty beyond what it can provide them materially.

You've got a bunch of people here cheerleading for Ukraine to dismiss Russian demands and saying they're willing to pay more for gas, in favor of protracted conflict because they want to hurt Russia. And sure, it's nice to fantasize that Russia will get stuck in an unwinnable war and a revolution will happen that ousts the Putin regime, or even that the cost of war will be such that Russia spreads its forces too thin, can't supply them, and gets completely driven out.

Unfortunately I think what's more likely is that Russia will continue ramping up brutality, resulting in a refugee crisis and thousands or tens of thousands more civilian deaths. And then they'll attempt to occupy Ukraine, and there will be an insurgency, and Ukraine will have a decade of war and instability and destroyed infrastructure and death.

My sincere hope is that Ukraine can pressure Russia to cave on some of their demands. The NATO, Crimea, and autonomous separatist bits are probably non-starters, but they can probably get Russia to give up the demands to install a PM and leave open the possibility of joining the EU.

And hopefully they'll get into the EU and will further increase their ties to the West, complete with an even further strengthened military that will make Russia think twice before doing this again.