Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Shrouded]

I'm honestly just surprised you guys are replying to them. There's something to be said for not leaving disinformation un-debunked (?!), but it seems to me like they're the only one arguing for this Russian propaganda stance while the rest of us live in reality - and if years of discussion has not moved these lines one inch, what would change now?

I mean I get the impulse to argue against that stuff, I just think it's a waste of energy.

[Shalcker]

So...Russian forces went to Ukraine with several days of supplies with no logistical support whatsoever and get their collective asses handed to them...so badly that even the occasional Ukrainian begins to pity the particular soldier, Russian forces can't even use their encrypted communications because such radios/phones don't work in Ukraine; Russia becomes economically isolated as any foreign trade comes completely to a halt; other countries have become very interested in joining NATO (with one particular Finlander thinking NATO should join Finland...and I love that attitude!)...

So, when did you hear about any gains by Ukrainian army lately if Russians are down so badly?

Outside of small villages constantly swapping control back and forth?

[Poopymonster]

So...Russian forces went to Ukraine with several days of supplies with no logistical support whatsoever and get their collective asses handed to them...so badly that even the occasional Ukrainian begins to pity the particular soldier, Russian forces can't even use their encrypted communications because such radios/phones don't work in Ukraine; Russia becomes economically isolated as any foreign trade comes completely to a halt; other countries have become very interested in joining NATO (with one particular Finlander thinking NATO should join Finland...and I love that attitude!)...

...and we're all suppose to believe that this was "all according to plan?"

If plan is remove out of date military equipment explosively, reduce own population, be forced to reinvest all money into own country because ruble is worthless, and spread lies so passionately you're either polishing Putin's pole or terrified of joining the penal legions....Dah comrade, all as plan. Trust plan.

[jonnysensible]

Given that Zelensky given weapons to everyone willing to hold them amount of people who can be considered combatants had greatly expanded.

not sure babies can use guns m8

[Daymanmb]

So, when did you hear about any gains by Ukrainian army lately if Russians are down so badly?

"Ukraine's armed forces claimed overnight to have recaptured the city of Chuhuiv in the Kharkiv region"
"The Ukrainian army also claimed to have killed two high-ranking Russian military commanders: Lt. Col. Dmitry Safronov, commander of the 61st Separate Marine Brigade of the Russian Armed Forces, and Lt. Col. Denis Glebov, deputy commander of the 11th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade."
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-rus...cebook-1685356

[Poopymonster]

not sure babies can use guns m8

*Laughs in American*

[Shalcker]

Meanwhile London Metal Exchange stopped trade in Nickel on March 8th.

LME-Nickel

Still hasn't re-opened.

Guess London hates free trade too?

[Daymanmb]

not sure babies can use guns m8

Our best people are looking to rectify that:

[Shadowferal]

So, when did you hear about any gains by Ukrainian army lately if Russians are down so badly?

I'm sorry but you seemed to have missed a memo...

Russia...Goliath here...a juggernaut of a war machine...they invaded Ukraine...not the other way around. By every measure that was believed Russian forces should have steamrolled Ukraine in a few days.
Russia=offense
Ukraine=defense


Is this too difficult to understand? I suppose I should understand the confusion since nothing happened the way most thought.

Ukraine has one job; survive.

[Corvus]

Lukashenko is back to being a comedian. He is claiming his army is staying in Belarus to prevent Russia being attacked in the rear, not that they refused to get involved.

[Shalcker]

"Ukraine's armed forces claimed overnight to have recaptured the city of Chuhuiv in the Kharkiv region"

30k city that as far as i see never even was claimed to be captured by Russians.

"The Ukrainian army also claimed to have killed two high-ranking Russian military commanders: Lt. Col. Dmitry Safronov, commander of the 61st Separate Marine Brigade of the Russian Armed Forces, and Lt. Col. Denis Glebov, deputy commander of the 11th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade."

So they finally dropped claim on Gerasimov?

Do you want list of entire Ukrainian military centers being wiped out?

[Daymanmb]

30k city that as far as i see never even was claimed to be captured by Russians.

Their population was 197,695 in 2021.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuhuiv_Raion

Imagine losing 2 high ranking commanders to a city you never even held. Things must being real well

[Mekh]

Guess London hates free trade too?

Have you ever heard of Brexit?

Or is your point that Putolini is as dumb a fuck as BoJo?

[Shalcker]

I'm sorry but you seemed to have missed a memo...

Russia...Goliath here...a juggernaut of a war machine...they invaded Ukraine...not the other way around. By every measure that was believed Russian forces should have steamrolled Ukraine in a few days.
Russia=offense
Ukraine=defense

Is this too difficult to understand? I suppose I should understand the confusion since nothing happened the way most thought.

Most people are wrong about wars, that is perfectly understandable.

But jumping to conclusion "Because Russia didn't achieve instant win it isn't going to win at all" is silly.

[downnola]

So...Russian forces went to Ukraine with several days of supplies with no logistical support whatsoever and get their collective asses handed to them...so badly that even the occasional Ukrainian begins to pity the particular soldier, Russian forces can't even use their encrypted communications because such radios/phones don't work in Ukraine; Russia becomes economically isolated as any foreign trade comes completely to a halt; other countries have become very interested in joining NATO (with one particular Finlander thinking NATO should join Finland...and I love that attitude!)...

...and we're all suppose to believe that this was "all according to plan?"

Peace is war, my good chap.

[Daymanmb]

But jumping to conclusion "Because Russia didn't achieve instant win it isn't going to win at all" is silly.

See, you just made that up. He very clearly didnt say, or indicate that in any way. Youre losing your touch. Are you even trying?

[jonnysensible]

Most people are wrong about wars, that is perfectly understandable.

Aye putin was, thought he'd take kyiv in 2 days

[Jastall]

There’s a difference between not being critical and fully supporting it.

That's increasingly not going to be the case for Russians, I'm afraid. The Kremlin is using this opportunity to clamp down hard on dissent. Soon you'll either be on board with the war (which you can't call a war) or be an Ukrainian/Western spy or traitor.

[Shadowferal]

Most people are wrong about wars, that is perfectly understandable.

You seem to have embraced this thought.
Meanwhile NATO will likely gain two countries in its alliance.

[Shalcker]

Their population was 197,695 in 2021.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuhuiv_Raion

That's "region"; what you need to look at is city itself.

Imagine losing 2 high ranking commanders to a city you never even held. Things must being real well

Ukrainian officials made plenty of outlandish claims they never backed with evidence.