Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Jastall]

That's "region"; what you need to look at is city itself.

Ukrainian officials made plenty of outlandish claims they never backed with evidence.

Well ain't that the pot calling the kettle black. How well did the "0 casualty" claim survive and where is this evidence of mass amounts of chemical weapons?

[ati87]

That's "region"; what you need to look at is city itself.

Ukrainian officials made plenty of outlandish claims they never backed with evidence.

Yes because Russia is the bigger man and will not take any opportunity to prove that Ukraine is wrong.

[Shalcker]

Yes because Russia is the bigger man and will not take any opportunity to prove that Ukraine is wrong.

Russia have proven plenty of Ukrainian fakes wrong; they generate bullshit faster then it can be debunked though.

And sometimes they are right; that also happens. Not that often though.

[Elegiac]

Russia have proven plenty of Ukrainian fakes wrong

Kinda hard to do that when your propaganda channels are banned in the West, habibi.

How's that 0.1% chance of Putain invading workin' out for ya?

[Shadowferal]

Russia have proven plenty of Ukrainian fakes wrong; they generate bullshit faster then it can be debunked though.

According to Russian sources...which are a beacon of truth...to you.

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Whoa. Isn’t it illegal to call it a war in Russia?

That, and calling it an "invasion."

[Daymanmb]

Ukrainian officials made plenty of outlandish claims they never backed with evidence.

So their still alive, is your claim? Without evidence lol

[Dontrike]

So...Russian forces went to Ukraine with several days of supplies with no logistical support whatsoever and get their collective asses handed to them...so badly that even the occasional Ukrainian begins to pity the particular soldier, Russian forces can't even use their encrypted communications because such radios/phones don't work in Ukraine; Russia becomes economically isolated as any foreign trade comes completely to a halt; other countries have become very interested in joining NATO (with one particular Finlander thinking NATO should join Finland...and I love that attitude!)...

...and we're all suppose to believe that this was "all according to plan?"

Shackler thinks this is an anime antagonist or Star Wars Palpatine plan where Putin knows what will happen next and even set backs are all part of the plan.

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Russia have proven plenty of Ukrainian fakes wrong; they generate bullshit faster then it can be debunked though.

And sometimes they are right; that also happens. Not that often though.

Wow.....this is some super bullshit coming from you. How much did your pay drop when the ruble fell?

[Daymanmb]

Wow.....this is some super bullshit coming from you. How much did your pay drop when the ruble fell?

Had a veeerry similar thought haha

[Shalcker]

Your country is literally making it illegal to accurately describe the situation and you think Ukraine is the one shoveling shit? Brilliant. Worth at least a nibble of a turnip.

Do you think whataboutism is valid defense?

[Mihalik]

Russia have proven plenty of Ukrainian fakes wrong; they generate bullshit faster then it can be debunked though.

And sometimes they are right; that also happens. Not that often though.

Oh look. Shillcker "The liar" is back.

Talking about bullshit... Are you going to address how every single god fucking damned thing you have said since the Little Green Men to today was total and complete bullshit?

As far as I am concerned you are just as responsible for the misery and suffering inflicted on Ukrainians and many Russians as the guy who's dropping bombs on maternity wards.

I hope those turnips you're being paid in is worth it.

[Mekh]

Do you think whataboutism is valid defense?

Luckily, that isn't whataboutism. You want to have a discussion, maybe learn the language.

[Okacz]

Shackler thinks this is an anime antagonist or Star Wars Palpatine plan where Putin knows what will happen next and even set backs are all part of the plan.

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Wow.....this is some super bullshit coming from you. How much did your pay drop when the ruble fell?

Quick peek at post history of that madlad and yeeeeah, I don't think that fine sir has installed himself into this forum to discuss video games. His skill at equalism (You say Russia is bombing hospitals, killing kids and shooting at civilians? Well, Ukraine might have lied about managing to shoot down a plane, ha!) are quite refined.

[Mihalik]

Do you think whataboutism is valid defense?

You using that fucking word single handedly broke every single irony meter in existence.

[Belize]

See, you just made that up. He very clearly didnt say, or indicate that in any way. Youre losing your touch. Are you even trying?

You'll have to excuse Shillcker, the turnip harvest was very bad this year, and since basically everyone has stopped trading with them, he can't supplement his diet.

[Shadowferal]

Shackler thinks this is an anime antagonist or Star Wars Palpatine plan where Putin knows what will happen next and even set backs are all part of the plan.

Is this the same guy that claimed Trump was playing some sort of masterful chess game during his time as president?

[Cynep]

Russia have proven plenty of Ukrainian fakes wrong;

Hey Shalcker, good to have you back. I discussed this question with Easo but he couldn't answer; you probably can.

How do you explain the fact that Russians couldn't so far make inroads into Ukrainian nationalist territories, and the only cities being destroyed by Russians are those with large Russian populations in them?

[Flarelaine]

A majority of Western posters seem to have drunk the "UKRAINE STR0NK" Kool-aid.

It is understandable - they have put up a heroic stand and they keep struggling against incredible odds. But I think taking their victory for granted is foolish. And condemning everyone not completely convinced of Righteous Victory is also wrong. If anything, it is not the Western way. Various outcomes have been offered ranging from visions of Russian domination to Ukrainian glory. Either of those and anything in between may yet come to pass, so do not hound out anyone for being skeptical of your vision of victory.

[Daymanmb]

Do you think whataboutism is valid defense?

Oh, does it only count when it comes from Putin?

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A majority of Western posters seem to have drunk the "UKRAINE STR0NK" Kool-aid.

It is understandable - they have put up a heroic stand and they keep struggling against incredible odds. But I think taking their victory for granted is foolish. And condemning everyone not completely convinced of Righteous Victory is also wrong. If anything, it is not the Western way. Various outcomes have been offered ranging from visions of Russian domination to Ukrainian glory. Either of those and anything in between may yet come to pass, so do not hound out anyone for being skeptical of your vision of victory.

Is this satire? Whos saying what you said was said?

[Barzotti]

Oh, does it only count when it comes from Putin?

And the irony is pretty rich coming from people constantly spewing "but but but USA!"

A majority of Western posters seem to have drunk the "UKRAINE STR0NK" Kool-aid.

It is understandable - they have put up a heroic stand and they keep struggling against incredible odds. But I think taking their victory for granted is foolish. And condemning everyone not completely convinced of Righteous Victory is also wrong. If anything, it is not the Western way. Various outcomes have been offered ranging from visions of Russian domination to Ukrainian glory. Either of those and anything in between may yet come to pass, so do not hound out anyone for being skeptical of your vision of victory.

Absolutely no one here said that Ukraine was winning. We are only pointing jabs at the sheer incompetency of the Russian army. That's a pretty poor strawman.

[Belize]

A majority of Western posters seem to have drunk the "UKRAINE STR0NK" Kool-aid.

It is understandable - they have put up a heroic stand and they keep struggling against incredible odds. But I think taking their victory for granted is foolish. And condemning everyone not completely convinced of Righteous Victory is also wrong. If anything, it is not the Western way. Various outcomes have been offered ranging from visions of Russian domination to Ukrainian glory. Either of those and anything in between may yet come to pass, so do not hound out anyone for being skeptical of your vision of victory.

IMO it's less about "Ukraine stronk" and more about Russia effectively having no path to any sort of lasting victory. The longer they stay stuck in the mud there, the less bargaining chips they have at the negotiation table. Not that they have a lot since their demands are frankly ridiculous.

I mean, I guess they can level the entire country and population, but like, that's not really "winning" is it?