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    Per the BBC, the IIF (international institute of finance) believes the Russian economy while shrink at least 15% this year. At least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Even if you ignore the random videos the slow progress makes it pretty obvious that the Russian army is lacking in terms of logistics, maintenance and overall planning. That's not saying Ukraine will win but Russia's image is tarnished for sure.
    Initial planning, as I like to repeat, about the hopes of 2014 repeat. Logistics goes together with this.
    Maintenance - debatable, we don't know. We don't even see Ukrainian side, because they cannot move in large enough formations.
    Since there was immediate decrease in videos from Ukrainians when the "one nation/brother nations" tactics were dropped last week and gloves came off I, once again, am arguing against the "incapable Russia" hype. Most funny of that is the "rusty nukes".

    And, as I too have repeated - Russia lost information war. No wonder that law was pushed out so fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Per the BBC, the IIF (international institute of finance) believes the Russian economy while shrink at least 15% this year. At least.
    Now that is serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    Shalcker appears to have gone quiet after he laughably tried to redefine what a bank run was. Embarassed? Waiting instruction on his next ridiculous talking point?

    Stay tuned for more!
    Nope. It was his turn to put stripped shirt on and get on the plane. He is with VDVs now.

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    Ehh...

    Exclusive: Facebook will temporarily allow posts calling for violence against Russians, calls for Putin's death"
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    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ns-2022-03-10/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker76 View Post
    I laughed

    Ukrainian farmer goes all in



    Then I could tell this was photoshopped, because the Kuznetsov is not on fire.

    Then I luaghed again.
    Looks like something is on fire, right side, way in the background.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Facebook continuing to just be an absolute shithole I guess.

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    here are the outcomes to this. As a prophet, I see all outcomes but don't know what comes after. So tell me what you think "comes after":

    1. Ukraine beats back Russia into their homeland. Putin nukes or chemical bombs all of Ukraine out of spite and sends the West a warning:

    2. Russia takes over Ukraine, kills everyone non-subservient/affiliated - the West response is:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    "The social media company is also temporarily allowing some posts that call for death to Russian President Vladimir Putin or Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko in countries including Russia, Ukraine and Poland, according to a series of internal emails to its content moderators."

    "The emails said calls for violence against Russians are allowed when the post is clearly talking about the invasion of Ukraine. They said the calls for violence against Russian soldiers were allowed because this was being used as a proxy for the Russian military, and said it would not apply to prisoners of war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    here are the outcomes to this. As a prophet, I see all outcomes but don't know what comes after. So tell me what you think "comes after":

    1. Ukraine beats back Russia into their homeland. Putin nukes or chemical bombs all of Ukraine out of spite and sends the West a warning:

    2. Russia takes over Ukraine, kills everyone non-subservient/affiliated - the West response is:
    muhammad wont be out of a job anytime soon

    1. not a likely outcome

    2. not a likely outcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    how do you think history could have gone differently in a more positive way, then? As in, not leading to the current events
    A more positive way?

    It wouldn't. What you are suggesting would only result in making things far worse.

    Kickstarting WWIII immediately after the end of WWII would not have been a positive development...and that's exactly what would happen if America had attempted what you are suggesting.
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    Reality in Ukraine city right now 2.01 -- 2.19 :


    Damage is pretty high, from what is being reported.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    muhammad wont be out of a job anytime soon

    1. not a likely outcome

    2. not a likely outcome
    i dont see how you can't see both outcomes as possible unless joking. One side will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    here are the outcomes to this. As a prophet, I see all outcomes but don't know what comes after. So tell me what you think "comes after":

    1. Ukraine beats back Russia into their homeland. Putin nukes or chemical bombs all of Ukraine out of spite and sends the West a warning:

    2. Russia takes over Ukraine, kills everyone non-subservient/affiliated - the West response is:
    blasphemy on top of thinking your internal dialogue is clairvoyance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post

    Damage is pretty high, from what is being reported.
    You seriously linked a 2 and a half minute video of utter complete nonsense for an 18 segment of barely relevant footage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    "The social media company is also temporarily allowing some posts that call for death to Russian President Vladimir Putin or Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko in countries including Russia, Ukraine and Poland, according to a series of internal emails to its content moderators."

    "The emails said calls for violence against Russians are allowed when the post is clearly talking about the invasion of Ukraine. They said the calls for violence against Russian soldiers were allowed because this was being used as a proxy for the Russian military, and said it would not apply to prisoners of war.
    Yeah, that will surely work just that way knowing humans. Surely.

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    Still anticipating WW3?
    I wonder what his room looks like. Or bunker...?
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    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    blasphemy on top of thinking your internal dialogue is clairvoyance.
    almost everything I have mentioned in the last two years, even up to small dialogue like Putin waving nukes as a casual threat or economic collapse, has come to pass. Everything. And before I was just said I was fearmongering or making conspiracies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    i dont see how you can't see both outcomes as possible unless joking. One side will win.
    There are different levels of winning and different meanings for winning.

    Even if Ukraine lost Crimea and the Donbass, if they hold the rest of the country they would have still won, considering the context.

    Just like the Finns did during the Winter War, while they were technically beaten and they officially surrendered and have lost huge chunks of territory, they got to hold on to their nation state and political system and managed to develop into a high income western democracy and EU member.

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    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1...2F20222232833d

    Reminds me of Monty python and the holy grail.

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    “A man will contend for a false faith stronger than he will a true one,” he observes. “The truth defends itself, but a falsehood must be defended by its adherents: first to prove it to themselves and secondly, that they may appear right in the estimation of their friends.”
    -The Acts of Pilate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Still anticipating WW3?
    UKRAINE OR RUSSIA WILL WIN. And then those two hypothetical scenarios will become real. Do you think Putin will let Ukraine win and not kill them all out of spite? He will launch a final attack if his military is fleeing back. And if Russia wins, they WILL kill everyone not kneeling to them, as proven by their blatant massacring of civilians now. The question then is how the West would respond to either

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    here are the outcomes to this. As a prophet, I see all outcomes but don't know what comes after. So tell me what you think "comes after":

    1. Ukraine beats back Russia into their homeland. Putin nukes or chemical bombs all of Ukraine out of spite and sends the West a warning:

    2. Russia takes over Ukraine, kills everyone non-subservient/affiliated - the West response is:
    Rainbow-farting unicorns...

    ...because both of those scenarios are figments of your imagination.
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