Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Kaleredar]

even better, a comedian

And yet somehow, Putin is the one that's coming off as a joke.

[YUPPIE]

Are you enjoying intentionally pushing Russian propaganda?

if you really think I'm a Russian advocator, please consider why this thread was made, and the last time I got suspended was...for advocating an assassination on Putin.

Kind of like how Lindsey Graham is being shit on non-stop 24/7 for saying that even now.

[Slant]

It's a garbage place, you're right and I made so clear.

But if that's where people are going, that's where you need to combat the misinformation. You can't force people to read credible news outlets, so you have to deal with the situation you have.

I fuckin hate it, but if that's where enough folks are going to get their information - even if it's literally the worst place they could be going - then that's the place where you combat misinformation.

I disagree. That's a game of cat and mouse, a dog chasing its own tail. It's a useless waste of resource. You still presume that you can reach the degenerates with logic and reason. You can't. They believe whatever they believe. The only way to combat this is to put the money into education. You need to equip people with the tools to handle this new form of illiteracy that we're observing. I call it illiteracy, because I compare the internet to the invention of the book press. People need to learn not just how to read, but now they also need to learn how to filter bullshit.

As far as what you can force people to read, you can't. You're right. But the current degenerates just want to believe something. Opinions become religions. The current generation is fucked. Lost. You can but hope that the degenerates don't burn the world down, anything else is just a bonus.

Also, used to be a time when "antitrust" was a word with meaning in the US. Maybe it's time to kill Facebook and see what happens.

[arandomuser]

so now republicans are saying that ukraine created covid with hunter biden and putin is a good guy saving everyone

[Gorsameth]

I could believe that if Russian casualties get too high that Russia will come to the table.

The problem with that statement is I don't know if Zelensky believes that based on those kind of casualty numbers or if he's drinking the kool-aid offered by his own government...which claims over 12.000 Russians killed. I trust the Pentagon claims. The Ukrainian claims are toilet paper level for me.

@Mihalik You raise an absolutely good point and the Russian people are absolutely deserving of their current fate.

There's a popular view in Eastern Europe, but not merely Eastern Europe, that we are not responsible for the actions of our leaders: Like hell I say.

the 12k is killed or wounded, which may well be accurate if you remember that you usually have a lot more wounded then dead.

[Slirith]

I already know that nukes will be used in this war. You know the saying about a cornered animal.....

[PhaelixWW]

I already know that nukes will be used in this war. You know the saying about a cornered animal.....

Nah, sorry, you don't know anything of the sort.

[XDurionX]

I already know that nukes will be used in this war. You know the saying about a cornered animal.....

Are you willing to bet your money on it? I could use some extra.

[YUPPIE]

Nah, sorry, you don't know anything of the sort.

No, he is right in my opinion. And the first use of nuclear weapons will hinge on Putin losing significantly in some way.

[XDurionX]

No, he is right in my opinion. And the first use of nuclear weapons will hinge on Putin losing significantly in some way.

You don't understand anything about this. The first one to use nukes ends his country. There's nothing to gain here. Even if Putin would go mad, there's checks in place to make sure he cannot order nukes willynilly.

[PhaelixWW]

No, he is right in my opinion. And the first use of nuclear weapons will hinge on Putin losing significantly in some way.

No surprise; your desire for the use of nuclear weapons is well documented.

[YUPPIE]

You don't understand anything about this. The first one to use nukes ends his country. There's nothing to gain here. Even if Putin would go mad, there's checks in place to make sure he cannot order nukes willynilly.

Putin is a dictator, though, and one that stylizes himself as the supreme authority. This is his cultivated image of "strength" too.

Can his staff actually subvert his will or demands? I don't think so. I don't think it's a group talk here. I think it just works like Putin ordering something and his will is carried out, no question.

[XDurionX]

Putin is a dictator, though, and one that stylizes himself as the supreme authority. This is his cultivated image of "strength" too.

Can his staff actually subvert his will or demands? I don't think so. I don't think it's a group talk here. I think it just works like Putin ordering something and his will is carried out, no question.

It doesn't matter what you think, they can and will disobey illegal orders. Not that Putin'd order something the like in the first place. You should get off your comic books and watch the news for once.

[YUPPIE]

It doesn't matter what you think, they can and will disobey illegal orders.

they will be tortured and killed. That's why Putin is surrounded by sycophants too terrified to tell him the bad news.

And also, what's "illegal" here? This is within Putin's regime. He makes the law. He decides what is legal or not.

[Skulltaker]

they will be tortured and killed. That's why Putin is surrounded by sycophants too terrified to tell him the bad news.

And also, what's "illegal" here? This is within Putin's regime. He makes the law. He decides what is legal or not.

You should really stop posting in any thread that discusses anything above grade school.

[Shadowferal]

if Putin walked into America and threw the MAD card, then demanded some White House representatives to clean his boots, would they do it so he doesn't launch nukes? Hypothetical scenario on how he can get away with anything.

Wrong question.
Would the other countries launch nukes? Yes, they would.

[YUPPIE]

Wrong question.
Would the other countries launch nukes? Yes, they would.

overall, the point I am trying to make is: whether Putin lives or is somehow killed/dies, there is NO positive outcome. Even if nukes are possibly not going to be deployed, this conflict will only end in tragedy and lead to a future catastrophe of the likes we have never seen before. And Putin, alive or not with a legacy, will lay the foundations for it.

There are people that have tried to still remain hopeful or optimistic of the worst case scenario not happening. I just wish (not demand) they dropped those sentiments.

[XDurionX]

they will be tortured and killed. That's why Putin is surrounded by sycophants too terrified to tell him the bad news.

And also, what's "illegal" here? This is within Putin's regime. He makes the law. He decides what is legal or not.

Your lack of understanding and your ignorance never cease to amaze me.

[PhaelixWW]

Can his staff actually subvert his will or demands? I don't think so. I don't think it's a group talk here. I think it just works like Putin ordering something and his will is carried out, no question.

You come across as a kid because you seem to have absolutely no idea how the world really works. If what you're suggesting is true, then why aren't all countries dictatorships?

Dictators get overthrown (by having their will subverted) all the time; they're not immune.

And also, what's "illegal" here? This is within Putin's regime. He makes the law. He decides what is legal or not.

You'd be surprised how many people will disagree with you when you decide to start WWIII by lobbing a nuke preemptively.

overall, the point I am trying to make is: whether Putin lives or is somehow killed/dies, there is NO positive outcome.

That's only your opinion because you're divorced from reality. Your inability to conceive of anything but doomsday is a serious flaw of your thought process.

Even if nukes are possibly not going to be deployed, this conflict will only end in tragedy and lead to a future catastrophe of the likes we have never seen before. And Putin, alive or not with a legacy, will lay the foundations for it.

There are people that have tried to still remain hopeful or optimistic of the worst case scenario not happening. I just wish (not demand) they dropped those sentiments.

Nah, bruv.

You still just only see hyperbole. That's not the way the world works.

And if you think the worst case scenario is inevitable, it's a wonder you spend any time even thinking about it. What's the reason, at that point?

[postman1782]

if you really think I'm a Russian advocator, please consider why this thread was made, and the last time I got suspended was...for advocating an assassination on Putin.

Kind of like how Lindsey Graham is being shit on non-stop 24/7 for saying that even now.

Considering the bullshit you have posted, you are playing both sides of the fence. You have since you made this thread.