1. #9981
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Classic internet example - say your opponent is "one of them". Good job.
    And... What secret plan? What are you even talking about? I am absolutely confused.
    You're the one talking about how this isn't all Russia got. Yeah, it is. That's all I'm saying.
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  2. #9982
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Plus, even if Russia “wins” the sanctions don’t just go away. They’ll have gained a spit of land to add to their rapidly imploding economy.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60697763

    I wondered if this was happening.

    200,000 Russians reportedly have fled the country since the invasion. Their economic woes will be tremendous.
    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

  3. #9983
    https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carl...-1687480?amp=1

    Oddly enough with the leak that Russian media are supposed to promote Tucker Carlson...he's not blaming the invasion on Kamala Harris because of a response to a question she gave about potential Ukranian refugees before Putin ordered the invasion.

    I think we need to haul Tucker Carlson in front of Congress and ask him if he's a fuckin red.

  4. #9984
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    well given what the Russian demands were the Ukranians couldnt accept them. But if they are all saying there might be a deal in 3 or so days then it must be Russian movement on Ukranian demands.
    Both side might compromise and come to an arrangement maybe some sanction relief is part of the compromise, the faster this comes to an end the more lives can be saved.

  5. #9985
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Both side might compromise and come to an arrangement maybe some sanction relief is part of the compromise, the faster this comes to an end the more lives can be saved.
    I really hope they will come to a compromise or something but i highly doubt it.

  6. #9986
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    …yet, anyway. Hitler didn’t stop at Poland. Why would Russia stop with Ukraine?
    Russia's army is nowhere close to the unstoppable German war machine I think we've all seen that. Hitler was many things but this level of incompetence didn't happen until they got way overconfident from continuous victories. Besides a lot of Europe has nukes now so not the same game.

  7. #9987
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    You're the one talking about how this isn't all Russia got. Yeah, it is. That's all I'm saying.
    And that's how you decided I meant some "secret plan", when I even specifically noted that Russia is simply holding back with firepower against Kiev instead of just leveling it? Jesus wept.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Russia's army is nowhere close to the unstoppable German war machine I think we've all seen that. Hitler was many things but this level of incompetence didn't happen until they got way overconfident from continuous victories. Besides a lot of Europe has nukes now so not the same game.
    A lot = 2 countries, France and UK, with limited arsenal (no MAD scenario, pure deterrence). Unless you meant the few tactical nukes in US bases, which are under US command?
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    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

  8. #9988
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    You're the one talking about how this isn't all Russia got. Yeah, it is. That's all I'm saying.
    Apparently they’re saving it for??? Who knows.

    If Russia really were going “easy”, well then they’re more stupid than incompetent, either works.

    Upside to all this? We know that NATO would roflstomp Russia, we know it and they know it.

    The biggest irony, is that Ukraine turned into EU’s bufferzone, not Russias.
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    Turkey is NATO still ? just wondering....


    any Bayraktar flying turkish signs or operated by them in Ukraine against russian troops should trigger some response by Putin.

  10. #9990
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    A lot = 2 countries, France and UK, with limited arsenal (no MAD scenario, pure deterrence). Unless you meant the few tactical nukes in US bases, which are under US command?
    I am basically counting NATO as them having nukes since that's the reason they don't have some of their own. I am sure Ukraine wish they kept their nukes until they joined NATO or the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    Turkey is NATO still ? just wondering....


    any Bayraktar flying turkish signs or operated by them in Ukraine against russian troops should trigger some response by Putin.
    Looking at that channel I'm not sure how reliable it is, I mean it also claims that US F-35's are entering Ukraine as well as NATO troops and up to two weeks ago the main content seems to have been....climate and weather videos.

  12. #9992
    with the news of the bombing in the Middle East and how Putin is specifically hiring muscle from there, has it been confirmed Saudi Arabia is siding with him?
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  13. #9993
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    with the news of the bombing in the Middle East and how Putin is specifically hiring muscle from there, has it been confirmed Saudi Arabia is siding with him?
    Why would SA ever side with Russia?

  14. #9994
    Quote Originally Posted by P for Pancetta View Post
    Why would SA ever side with Russia?
    their murderous crown prince hates Biden, a commonality with the man since Trump left office, like how Putin imploded after he left.

    Also: 9/11.

    The Saudi royalty is made up of opportunists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    their murderous crown prince hates Biden, a commonality with the man since Trump left office, like how Putin imploded after he left.
    Yet another bad take that indicates you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

    No, habibi; if your assertion was remotely true SA would not have been one of the main drivers in the OPEC decision to increase oil production. To say nothing of the fact that SA relies on the US for a huge amount of defense funding and equipment procurement.
    It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious.

  16. #9996
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    their murderous crown prince hates Biden, a commonality with the man since Trump left office, like how Putin imploded after he left.

    Also: 9/11.

    The Saudi royalty is made up of opportunists.
    You know it wasn't SA that was invaded after 9/11, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    You know it wasn't SA that was invaded after 9/11, do you?
    Nooo what about my terrible takes based on a shitty and superficial psychological reading of a country's head of state? /s
    It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious.

  18. #9998
    you people HAVE to consider right now who Putin's foreign allies are since he said all bets are off in conscripting random mercenaries to wage his war in violation of international law. It's not singling out Saudi Arabia.

    I think besides SA he'll have a degree of China's aid, India, ISIS fighters, Mexican Cartels, as far as conscripts go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    you people HAVE to consider right now who Putin's foreign allies are since he said all bets are off in conscripting random mercenaries to wage his war in violation of international law. It's not singling out Saudi Arabia.

    I think besides SA he'll have a degree of China's aid, India, ISIS fighters, Mexican Cartels, as far as conscripts go.
    Yeah i bet those mexican cartels are eager to get killed in Ukraine.

  20. #10000
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post

    I think besides SA he'll have a degree of China's aid, India, ISIS fighters, Mexican Cartels, as far as conscripts go.

    what is this, some Cannon movie from the 80's where every non American is automatically a part of an axis of bad guys?

    never mind that Ukraine has done the exact same thing and we have former US military operators (derogatory) fighting on the side of Ukraine.

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