Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Easo]

No No.

I mean the sanctions and isolation must continue until Russia is no longer a functional nation state. We must make the lifting of sanctions and pressure contingent on de-nuclearization and them literally allowing all regions with any interest in independence, like Chechnya, independence. Furthermore Kaliningrad should become an independent Baltic republic etc.

First, North Korea is a great proof it doesn't work like that (add Iran to the list too), second, Russia is too big in all senses for it to work and third - you have totally lost if you think anyone is going to want or make "Kaliningrad Republic".

Ridiculous.

[Daymanmb]

You just said we need to break Russia up and take away their nukes - things of which none apply to North Korea. I hope that this backtracking is a sign that you understood what kind of insanity you said.

Wow, its almost as if you purposely mistook what was said.

[YUPPIE]

Seriously, we need to do some serious housecleaning to get rid of all of our Putin shills in the Republican party. There sure are a lot of them, maybe they should just all move to Russia, I'm sure they'll be welcomed with open arms and all.

As we learned in the recent investigative charges dropped on Trump, Trump is an untouchable mafioso and has the entire GOP backing him up. People said he was fucked this year, but the lawyers suddenly quit when they had him dead to rights. Imagine what kind of killers abroad he could have in his pocket to make that happen. And he does this with his allegiances to Putin not even being hidden.

[Edge-]

People said he was fucked this year, but the lawyers suddenly quit when they had him dead to rights.

Can you stop making up your own headcanon please? Your fanfictions are really bad.

[Easo]

Wow, its almost as if you purposely mistook what was said.

Which would be what? He said we should do what Skroe said - break up Russia and remove it's nukes. Quite hard to misinterpret.
No backtracking.

[Daymanmb]

Which would be what? He said we should do what Skroe said - break up Russia and remove it's nukes. Quite hard to misinterpret.
No backtracking.

Oh, he did say that earlier.. my mistake. Breaking up Russia and disarming them of nukes is a tough pill to swallow.

[YUPPIE]

Can you stop making up your own headcanon please? Your fanfictions are really bad.

I do have a point, though, and as you YOURSELF stated, treacherous Russian/Putin shills and accomplices are infesting the Republican Party

but it's like, HOW do you stop them after what we've witnessed?

It makes me angry to know how America isn't the only one with this problem of Russian agents infiltrating foreign political parties. That's what people resent them for even before this war

[Mihalik]

First, North Korea is a great proof it doesn't work like that (add Iran to the list too), second, Russia is too big in all senses for it to work and third - you have totally lost if you think anyone is going to want or make "Kaliningrad Republic".

Ridiculous.

I'm sorry, but the only way to have any global security from here on out is for Russia to go the way of the Soviet Union. Russia must go.

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Oh, he did say that earlier.. my mistake. Breaking up Russia and disarming them of nukes is a tough pill to swallow.

Yet, that's exactly what should be our objective.

I'm pretty sure back in the early 1980's people would have been equally skeptical about breaking up the Soviet Union.

[Rasulis]

Yeah. I don't think China has time to worry about Russia right now.

China orders 51 million into lockdown as COVID surges

Officials on Sunday locked down the southern city of Shenzhen, which has 17.5 million people and is a major tech and finance hub that borders Hong Kong. That followed the lockdown of Changchun, home to 9 million people in Jilin province, starting last Friday.

China's vast passenger rail network said it would cut service significantly, and both China Railway and airlines said they would offer free refunds to people who had already bought tickets. Shanghai suspended bus service to other cities and provinces.

Shanghai has recorded 713 cases in March, of which 632 are asymptomatic cases. China counts positive and asymptomatic cases separately in its national numbers. Schools in China's largest city have switched to remote learning.

In Beijing, several buildings were sealed off over the weekend. Residents said they were willing to follow the zero-tolerance policies despite any personal impact.

"I think only when the epidemic is totally wiped out can we ease up," said Tong Xin, 38, a shop owner in the Silk Market, a tourist-oriented mall in the Chinese capital.

Much of the current outbreak across Chinese cities is being driven by the variant commonly known as "stealth Omicron," or the B.A.2 lineage of the Omicron variant, Zhang noted. Early research suggests it spreads faster than the original Omicron, which itself spread faster than the original virus and other variants.

"But if our country opens up quickly now, it will cause a large number of infections in people in a short period of time," Zhang wrote Monday. "No matter how low the death rate is, it will still cause a run on medical resources and a short term shock to social life, causing irreparable harm to families and society."

If B.A.2 get loose in China, with minimal exposure to prior variants to build immunity and only depending on their vaccines, the death toll will be staggering.

Considering Covid is running rampant in Russia, knowing their mentality, the Chinese is probably closing borders and halting all trades with Russia.

[Easo]

I'm sorry, but the only way to have any global security from here on out is for Russia to go the way of the Soviet Union. Russia must go.

Yet, that's exactly what should be our objective.

I'm pretty sure back in the early 1980's people would have been equally skeptical about breaking up the Soviet Union.

Ahh, so you want to balkanize Russia and do the same with it as Russia is currently attempting to do with Ukraine? AMAZING IDEA!
/s

You absolutely don't understand the problems and implications. Here, let me give you one - natives in Siberia are likely to suffer. A lot. Or another - almost guaranteed conflicts in the future. Greeeaaaaatttt.....

[Belize]

THAT IS ALL BULLSHIT NOW AND I SAW IT FOR WHAT IT WAS.

I would like to extend the same offer I made Hubcap a few years back.

[Flarelaine]

No No.

I mean the sanctions and isolation must continue until Russia is no longer a functional nation state. We must make the lifting of sanctions and pressure contingent on de-nuclearization and them literally allowing all regions with any interest in independence, like Chechnya, independence. Furthermore Kaliningrad should become an independent Baltic republic etc.

Kaliningrad is ethnically Russian, though. As is most of Russia. Even nominal ethnic republics are generally Russian-majority.

[DarkTZeratul]

If B.A.2 get loose in China, with minimal exposure to prior variants to build immunity and only depending on their vaccines, the death toll will be staggering.

This sub-variant has been blown WAY out of proportion. It's essentially just a slightly different version of Omicron, and it's not even a new one at that.

[Yunru]

Yep geneva convention totaly broken. Why does the guy look like he is reading from a list?

[masterhorus8]

This sub-variant has been blown WAY out of proportion. It's essentially just a slightly different version of Omicron, and it's not even a new one at that.

TBF, that's exactly what I was told about the omicron strain itself. The biggest problem with faster spreading strains isn't the lethality of that strain itself, but the speed at which it'll then mutate because it's jumping from person to person so rapidly.

[Easo]

Well, Antonov Design Bureau or simply Antonov nowadays - is no more. There are things which could be said about it and Ukraine, but... Doesn't matter anymore.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1503420201492168713

I guess everything left, like Luch Design Bureau, are going to follow in short order.

Kaliningrad is ethnically Russian, though. As is most of Russia. Even nominal ethnic republics are generally Russian-majority.

There is a reason I questioned his sanity.

Yep geneva convention totaly broken. Why does the guy look like he is reading from a list?

Have you seen war for the first time? PoW's will say anything and everything.

[PhaelixWW]

THAT IS ALL BULLSHIT NOW AND I SAW IT FOR WHAT IT WAS.

Lulz, no. You're so out of touch with reality that it's kinda sad.

You're no prophet, and you continue to get things wrong.

And had Russia taken Kyiv in the first 72 hours, the world (sadly) would likely have just let it happen with few sanctions. Ukraine, by providing sharp resistance to Russia's invasion, and Zelensky, by being the unwavering face of said Ukrainian resistance, have allowed public opinion in support of Ukraine to swell to the current level.

Frankly, there are a lot of countries out there who are eager to rein in Russian aggression, but finding adequate justification is generally difficult without the type of lengthy and well-resisted effort we're seeing right now.

Your takes, on the other hand, just continue to be woefully and pathetically bad.

[Poopymonster]

Can you stop making up your own headcanon please? Your fanfictions are really bad.

Dude. Read that shit in the voice of Tweak from South Park. It goes from stupidly annoying to hilarious.

[Rasulis]

This sub-variant has been blown WAY out of proportion. It's essentially just a slightly different version of Omicron, and it's not even a new one at that.

Because of the zero covid policy, China's population has built minimal natural immunity. In the US, when Omicron hit, a big chunk of the population had combined immunity from both vaccines and prior exposure, or vaccines and prior exposure alone. In China, they only have the vaccines. Which were designed for the original variant, not Omicron. Very little exposure to prior variants. We are also dealing with very dense and large population centers. We are talking about cities with population in the tens of millions. Shanghai population alone is second only to California and Texas.

Anyway, Chinese tech stocks on the Hong Kong market is down 11%. Chinese tech companies are in condition to buck US economic sanction right now.

[DarkTZeratul]

TBF, that's exactly what I was told about the omicron strain itself. The biggest problem with faster spreading strains isn't the lethality of that strain itself, but the speed at which it'll then mutate because it's jumping from person to person so rapidly.

BA.2 isn't a whole new variant, though, like with Omicron vs. Delta. It's basically just a slightly different version of Omicron (officially, it's a subvariant), and one we've been aware of pretty much since Omicron became a thing (the most common Omicron subvariant is BA.1, and BA.3 is also known to exist). It's not something to be ignored, to be sure, especially as it appears to be more transmissible, but saying "if it gets loose the death toll will be staggering" is ridiculous.