Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Easo]

Russia’s primary “reason” for invading Ukraine is their “view” of ethnic Russians needing rescue. Ethnic arguments are kinda bullshit.

Just gonna say it right here - let's not start discussion about ethnostates.

[Shadowferal]

Germany to replace bombers with US-made F-35s

With the acquisition of the F-35 jets, manufactured by Maryland-based Lockheed Martin, Germany's mission to NATO said the country will still be able to participate in nuclear sharing.

Germany does not have nuclear weapons, but under NATO's nuclear sharing agreement, it hosts U.S.-owned nuclear weapons that it is supposed to carry in the event of a conflict. According to Reuters, it is believed that the U.S. has stored around 20 nuclear bombs at the German air base Beuchel.

In addition to the fighter jets, Germany will also update its Eurofighter jets so that they have the capability of electronic warfare.

[Easo]

Germany to replace bombers with US-made F-35s[i]

So you wanna say Germany is gonna finally reduce the stupid? Their dance around Tornado replacements has been ongoing for quite some time.

Weird. I thought Flare was the mod.

Well, I was mostly talking about the part where such discussion led to everyone getting infracted during the last Israel vs Palestine thread. It also adds little to this one...

[Daymanmb]

I'm pretty sure back in the early 1980's people would have been equally skeptical about breaking up the Soviet Union.

But why do you think that is? And to be clear, no outside force broke up the USSR and they still have nuclear weapons.

[jonnysensible]

Just gonna say it right here - let's not start discussion about ethnostates.

why will it make you reflect on your shitty views about Israel?

[Grapemask]

I don't know whether I'm the only one on this, but as more and more images are coming out of Ukraine, as more the Russian are shelling, the more people like Carlson are defending them, the angrier and angrier I get.

I've never been a fan of Russia and I squarely fall into the category of people who has always seen Russia as an existential threat to Europe and even the US....but I'm inching towards the attitude where I'm starting to see Russia as irredeemable and an existential threat to global security as long as it remains a nuclear power, I never agreed with Skroe on needing to break up Russia and remove it's nuclear weapons. But I truly believe this is the only way forward.

Literally this should be a guiding principle of both US and European foreign policy towards Russia. The dismemberment and de-nuclearization of Russia.

Yep.

It's a special kind of infuriating to see people like Tucker and others here at home trying to give legitimacy to Russia. These are the modern equivalent of Nazi sympathizers. There are not enough words for how much they can get fucked. It's even more maddening that now they've found a way to drag the good old Trump-era dishonesty into all of this, where they pretend to be stupid and do the Tulsi Gabbard thing, "I'm not repeating Russian propaganda I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS and RAISING CONCERNS that just so happen to be very closely tied to Russian talking points used to justify murder, and which do nothing to dismiss them."

Like can we just not be shit people, please. And after we've stopped pretending to be stupid in order to be shit people, let's go ahead and get rid of all of the shit people instead of letting them float around shitting all over our soup. Sick of this shit.

[Rasulis]

BA.2 isn't a whole new variant, though, like with Omicron vs. Delta. It's basically just a slightly different version of Omicron (officially, it's a subvariant), and one we've been aware of pretty much since Omicron became a thing (the most common Omicron subvariant is BA.1, and BA.3 is also known to exist). It's not something to be ignored, to be sure, especially as it appears to be more transmissible, but saying "if it gets loose the death toll will be staggering" is ridiculous.

It is loose in Hong Kong now. 32,400 symptomatic cases on Sunday. So far 2,500ish death in the last 3 months, currently over 100 a day. Hong Kong population is 7 million. China is 1.4 billion. Adjusted for population size, China could be seeing 6 million symptomatic cases per day and 20,000 deaths per day.

[zealo]

Russia’s primary “reason” for invading Ukraine is their “view” of ethnic Russians needing rescue. Ethnic arguments are kinda bullshit.

Doesn't mean there is any merit to the idea that Kaliningrad ought to be separated from Russia.

Most of the German populace didn't stick around after the soviets took over the place, By now Kaliningrad is nearly as ethnically Russian as Moscow is.

[JohnBrown1917]

It is loose in Hong Kong now. 32,400 symptomatic cases on Sunday. So far 2,500ish death in the last 3 months, currently over 100 a day. Hong Kong population is 7 million. China is 1.4 billion. Adjusted for population size, China could be seeing 6 million symptomatic cases per day and 20,000 deaths per day.

That would make no sense, Hong Kong is extremely densely populated and China a lot less so.

[Flarelaine]

Doesn't mean there is any merit to the idea that Kaliningrad ought to be separated from Russia.

Most of the German populace didn't stick around after the soviets took over the place, By now Kaliningrad is nearly as ethnically Russian as Moscow is.

Strategically, not wanting to leave Russia with a forward base in the Baltic is perfectly understandable. But they would probably rejoin given a chance.

[MCMLXXXII]

Dude. Read that shit in the voice of Tweak from South Park. It goes from stupidly annoying to hilarious.

LOL that really helps, but but but *twitch* they are going to through nukes, NUKES some guy on internet said so

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That would make no sense, Hong Kong is extremely densely populated and China a lot less so.

China as a whole isn't but al major cities are like Hong Kong

[Rasulis]

That would make no sense, Hong Kong is extremely densely populated and China a lot less so.

I lived in Shanghai 2005 - 2007. Not Hong Kong, but it was packed. It seemed to get more crowded with each subsequent visits.

[YUPPIE]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...a-use-ukraine/

I KNEW it. China is possibly supplying Russia. In response to the person last page who said how China would support Russia.

[jonnysensible]

That would make no sense, Hong Kong is extremely densely populated and China a lot less so.

????? 12 cities with the highest global population in the top 50. Place is rammed.

Back on topic.

US reckons the Russians dont have enough troops to encircle kyiv let alone take it.

The Russia media is going full on batshit. Especially the figures who've had their holidays homes in lake como seized. Cunts.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...a-use-ukraine/

I KNEW it. China is possibly supplying Russia. In response to the person last page who said how China would support Russia.

chinas stock exchange ate shit at the mere suggestion.

[DarkTZeratul]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...a-use-ukraine/

I KNEW it. China is possibly supplying Russia. In response to the person last page who said how China would support Russia.

USA: "Don't do the thing."
YUPPIE: "I knew it! China's doing the thing!"

The latter does not follow the former.

[YUPPIE]

USA: "Don't do the thing."
YUPPIE: "I knew it! China's doing the thing!"

The latter does not follow the former.

I said "possibly" which means it is at the table enough for it to be a concern and not a fantasy.

[uuuhname]

USA: "Don't do the thing."
YUPPIE: "I knew it! China's doing the thing!"

The latter does not follow the former.

need to add a few degrees of insanity.

THIS MEANS CHINA IS FOR SURE GOING TO INVADE TAIWAN AT ANY MINUTE!

[Draco-Onis]

Yet, that's exactly what should be our objective.

I'm pretty sure back in the early 1980's people would have been equally skeptical about breaking up the Soviet Union.

So what would be the upside because in your scenario at least with a sanction they would have an country and an identity. The sanctions would be the better choice out of the two.

[DarkTZeratul]

I'm pretty sure back in the early 1980's people would have been equally skeptical about breaking up the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union was already a conglomerate of different countries that could easily be restored to its component parts. Russia has always been Russia, at least for the last several centuries. And let me tell you, history is littered with examples of how forcibly splitting up another country and drawing new borders for them never, ever, ever ends well.

[Skulltaker]

I said "possibly" which means it is at the table enough for it to be a concern and not a fantasy.

Everything from you is a fantasy, dude.