Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Edge-]

Called it. I just knew it would happen.

Just didnt expect it to be that bad quality tho.

It's pretty predictable behavior. The only surprise is how hilariously bad it is, even for a rush job.

[Poopymonster]

It's pretty predictable behavior. The only surprise is how hilariously bad it is, even for a rush job.

How long until the turnip scented knob-gobbling dog fucking sister raping mentally defective inbred bell ends, who shall remain nameless, come here and say "OMG! IF THEY R SO BAD HOW COULD THEY HAVE INTERFERED IN UR ELECTION? LOL!"

[wunksta]

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/...g-chaos-online

Trying deepfakes and shit now?

This is a pretty shitty one at that, like, it's hilariously bad. I assume this comes from Russian hackers, but holy shit this is a bad deepfake.

My expectations were low but damn.

[Skulltaker]

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/...g-chaos-online

Trying deepfakes and shit now?

This is a pretty shitty one at that, like, it's hilariously bad. I assume this comes from Russian hackers, but holy shit this is a bad deepfake.

Honestly, this world is so shitty I wouldn't be surprised if this was some asshats idea of a joke.

[Easo]

Oryx' involvement is from a Turkish standpoint that is in opposition to Russia due to Russia's involvement in Syria, where the Russians propped the SAA up. The SAA in turn smoked out Turkish-backed radicals out of Aleppo, Hama, Homs and the Idlib flatlands. This naturally makes one suspicious to the information provided by Oryx. As much as the site and social media affiliated with it is pro-Turkish, the documentation of destroyed hardware is backed by evidence, which is a commendable effort. It is however obvious that Oryx has become a TB-2 drone advertisement company.

Almost everything destroyed in this war and on his site (or the Lost Armor, or basically any other reasource) has nothing to do with drones, though. Not to mention the crapload of abandoned/captured vehicles on both sides.

According to Wikipedia they've been used both in Afghanistan and Syria by the Marines and Socom respectively.

The Marines used up thousands of them.

Yeah, so it seems, which means kinks, hopefully, are worked out. Did not find combat footage, sadly.

[PhaelixWW]

Something small. No specific model yet, but they were talking about Switchblades before.

A nice, short 4 minute video on the subject.

[jonnysensible]

damn that fucking drama theatre man. fucking orcs. And the russian social media is saying azov blew it up, the cunts who write that kind of shit need the wall as much as the bombers.

[Easo]

About that theater. There is some stupid shit going on about it, posts from 12th and 13th March talking about Azov preparing a provocation in the threatre.
I expect people to start raging at me, but the whole thing feels wrong and off. I will wait until tomorrow, maybe it will be more clear. For now, most of all it looks like there were no 1.2k people in it and I would like to be correct about it.

[Shrouded]

About that theater. There is some stupid shit going in about it, posts from 12th and 13th March talking about Azov preparing a provocation in the threatre.
I expect people to start raging at me, but the whole thing feels wrong and off. I will wait until tomorrow, maybe it will be more clear. For now, most of all it looks like there were no 1.2k people in it and I would like to be correct about it.

So in this thread you've repeatedly called people out for arguments based on feelings of hope for Ukraine, but now that YOU have a feeling that a horribly gruesome mass murder is "wrong and off", it's suddenly okay?

I previously thought that some have been too harsh on you, but geez, this is low.

[Specialka]

So in this thread you've repeatedly called people out for arguments based on feelings of hope for Ukraine, but now that YOU have a feeling that a horribly gruesome mass murder is "wrong and off", it's suddenly okay?

I previously thought that some have been too harsh on you, but geez, this is low.

Because people have repeateadly gobble propaganda from both side. On this case, we still lack evidences like photos or videos which we had for instance for the maternity bombing. Maybe they'll come later or maybe they won't.

[Easo]

So in this thread you've repeatedly called people out for arguments based on feelings of hope for Ukraine, but now that YOU have a feeling that a horribly gruesome mass murder is "wrong and off", it's suddenly okay?

I previously thought that some have been too harsh on you, but geez, this is low.

And here we go... We don't have anything more than a photo of the destroyed building, I even specifically said I would like to be correct that there was no 1k+ people in it.

It is Azov, after all, and war is very stupid and leads to very stupid things.

[Shrouded]

And here we go... We don't have anything more than a photo of the destroyed building, I even specifically said I would like to be correct that there was no 1k+ people in it.

It is Azov, after all, and war is very stupid and leads to very stupid things.

It might be wrong, it might be rumor, and I would love for it to be wrong - but it doesn't change the fact that you have double standards, and that it's ridiculous that you think that it's somehow "better" to speculate that bombing the theatre is an inside job by Ukraine than it is to make emotion-based arguments that the war is going well for Ukraine. Either you can argue based on a "feeling" or you can't, make up your mind.

[Corvus]

Might be something happening in Belarus. Lots of chatter about explosions all over the country.

[Easo]

It might be wrong, it might be rumor, and I would love for it to be wrong - but it doesn't change the fact that you have double standards, and that it's ridiculous that you think that it's somehow "better" to speculate that bombing the theatre is an inside job by Ukraine than it is to make emotion-based arguments that the war is going well for Ukraine. Either you can argue based on a "feeling" or you can't, make up your mind.

You are arguing from an emotional position, talking about murder, in a thread where half of posts are based on emotions only.
Sorry, but I am allowed to have a "feeling" too. And I suggest to actually reread what I wrote... Unless, of course, you want to have those 1.2k people in there under the ruins.

Might be something happening in Belarus. Lots of chatter about explosions all over the country.

Wasn't there a post a bit later saying those were sonic booms from planes, not explosions? o.O

[Kallisto]

Belarus is claiming it's training exercises, at night.

[jonnysensible]

Might be something happening in Belarus. Lots of chatter about explosions all over the country.

havent seen anything but the army has been making noises that they do not want to participate at all in the war.

Would be good if there was a coup and that dictator and his rancid kids were put against the wall.

[Belize]

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/...g-chaos-online

Trying deepfakes and shit now?

This is a pretty shitty one at that, like, it's hilariously bad. I assume this comes from Russian hackers, but holy shit this is a bad deepfake.

This looks even worse than the animation they used in Scary Godmother

[Easo]

Belarus is claiming it's training exercises, at night.

I really hope that potato fuhrer does not give in to pressure from Kremlin. Not a full puppet yet, I guess.

havent seen anything but the army has been making noises that they do not want to participate at all in the war.

Would be good if there was a coup and that dictator and his rancid kids were put against the wall.

So you wanna put a 17 year old against the wall? Ok then.
Also the last attempt with mass protests did not end well, the cocroach (he is called Tarakan) is very hard to remove, as you can see.

[Xyonai]

Koch Industries stays in Russia, backs groups opposing US Sanctions

The article itself is a rather short one and isn't paywalled, so for the lazy I'll just copy/paste it all here:

As hundreds of major U.S. companies exit Russia over its invasion of Ukraine, Koch Industries is staying put.

The industrial conglomerate — the second-largest privately owned business in America, with $115 billion in annual revenue — is among those defying public pressure and continuing to operate manufacturing plants and sell products across Russia, while up until Wednesday remaining mum on that nation's relentless assault on Ukrainian cities.

Wichita, Kansas-based Koch has several business lines in Russia, and is among the nearly 40 companies described as "digging in" by refusing to curb or stop business in that nation, according to a tally compiled by Yale University professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and his research team.

Koch subsidiary Guardian Industries has two industrial glass manufacturing plants in Russia that employ about 600. Outside of Guardian, Koch employs 15 people in Russia, according to the company.

"While Guardian's business in Russia is a very small part of Koch, we will not walk away from our employees there or hand over these manufacturing facilities to the Russian government so it can operate and benefit from them," Dave Robertson, president and CEO of Koch Industries, said Wednesday in a statement posted by the company.

Calling Russia's attack on Ukraine "an affront to humanity" that "violates our company's values and principles," Robertson also said the company has provided financial assistance to workers and their families from Ukraine and other aid to those affected in neighboring countries.

"To be clear, Koch companies are complying with all applicable sanctions, laws and regulations governing our relationships and transactions within all countries where we operate," he added. "We will continue to closely monitor the situation and keep you updated as needed."

Meantime, political groups supported by Charles Koch, the right-wing billionaire who is chairman and CEO of Koch Industries, are making a public case against imposing economic sanctions against Russia, according to Popular Information, a left-leaning newsletter run by Judd Legum.

Stand Together, a nonprofit founded by Charles Koch, "supports targeted sanctions against Russia in response to its immoral invasion of Ukraine. We also believe that sanctions are a legitimate tool of statecraft. However, broad-based economic sanctions rarely achieve their desired policy outcomes," Dan Caldwell, the group's vice president for foreign policy, tweeted on Monday.

Caldwell previously suggested that the U.S. remain neutral on the conflict in Ukraine.

A similar message comes from Will Ruger, president of another Charles Koch-backed group, the American Institute for Economic Research, or AIER, according to Popular Information's reporting. "The United States can and should do very little for Ukraine," Ruger said in a March 2 podcast with Reason Magazine, a libertarian publication also supported by Charles Koch. "Ukraine simply doesn't matter to America's security or our prosperity."

Advancing that view, Ruger also shared on social media a Reason video entitled "Why Russian sanctions will fail."

Another Charles Koch-backed group, Concerned Veterans for America, is also cautioning against sanctions against Russia. In a petition letter, the group urges "restraint as America responds to Russia's immoral invasion of Ukraine. ... We should avoid actions that may aggravate the situation further or have damaging repercussions to American prosperity."

[Belize]

Koch Industries stays in Russia, backs groups opposing US Sanctions

The article itself is a rather short one and isn't paywalled, so for the lazy I'll just copy/paste it all here:

Wow, the Kochs being fucking vile scum.

How surprising.