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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Koch Industries stays in Russia, backs groups opposing US Sanctions

    The article itself is a rather short one and isn't paywalled, so for the lazy I'll just copy/paste it all here:
    Wow, the Kochs being fucking vile scum.

    How surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Belarus is claiming it's training exercises, at night.
    In multiple cities all at once? Would be unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Wow, the Kochs being fucking vile scum.

    How surprising.
    From the article it looks like they're trying to play both sides of it: Public statements condemning the invasion and offering financial support while also piling in even bigger donations to force people to not give a shit.

    With this info in mind I'm surprised the Conservative push-back against sanctions isn't more aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Koch Industries stays in Russia, backs groups opposing US Sanctions

    The article itself is a rather short one and isn't paywalled, so for the lazy I'll just copy/paste it all here:
    "We're sending financial assistance to our workers in Russia"

    In USD. Which the Russian gov't is snapping up like it's geritol at the RNC.
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    Sanctions on the Koch brothers would be nice...

    ...just wishful thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    From the article it looks like they're trying to play both sides of it: Public statements condemning the invasion and offering financial support while also piling in even bigger donations to force people to not give a shit.

    With this info in mind I'm surprised the Conservative push-back against sanctions isn't more aggressive.
    Give it a few weeks. Once the current burst of #thoughtsandprayers passes they'll turn. Gotta look human to the public for a few weeks.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


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    Quote Originally Posted by dextersmith View Post
    I imagine sanctions will cease as soon as the fighting stops.
    It'll take years and years of gradual decrease, it'll be a tit for tat sanctions vs. Putin showing that he can be a good little bitch and behave himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Yeah, it just killed over 15.000.000 people in death camps and gassed them, it was nothing.
    6 million. Let's not be stupid and parrot idiotic propaganda. 6 millions is still a horrible crime, but you using that tragedy as your personal propaganda bullshit is very disrespectful to the victims of the holocaust. Fucking mind what you say...
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    Ridiculous that the fighter jets for Ukraine have been pulled back and refused out of fear that it may provoke Russia.

    Sorry, but it needs to be the opposite. Russia needs to be in constant fear of provoking the rest of the world.
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    6 million. Let's not be stupid and parrot idiotic propaganda. 6 millions is still a horrible crime, but you using that tragedy as your personal propaganda bullshit is very disrespectful to the victims of the holocaust. Fucking mind what you say...

    Downplaying the holocaust is far more disrespectful.


    Germans never change, I see. Goes to show that Germany was never properly denazified after the war.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims


    Although forgetting about the Romani victims is a very European thing in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    "We're sending financial assistance to our workers in Russia"

    In USD. Which the Russian gov't is snapping up like it's geritol at the RNC.
    Well best people can do is boycot the company.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries

    Its possible that banks will lock them out of Swift system.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Koch-shmoch. I have a suggestion for all of you - take a look how many companies did actually fully pull out and how many are on "temporary suspended operations".
    It's quite telling, would seem clear that they expect to return soonish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Collegeguy View Post
    Ridiculous that the fighter jets for Ukraine have been pulled back and refused out of fear that it may provoke Russia.

    Sorry, but it needs to be the opposite. Lunatic-dictator nations need to be in constant fear of provoking the rest of the world.
    Wanna call out Putler's bluff? Poland, who is a quite hawkish regarding Russia, got cold feet.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Downplaying the holocaust is far more disrespectful.


    Germans never change, I see. Goes to show that Germany was never properly denazified after the war.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims
    That is quite an interesting take - considering how scared Germany is of any mention of swastika, their dislike for military and how much they still keep paying Israel (look at subs and corvettes, to give you a hint).

    Oh, right, and let me add the total course reversal regarding military after this war started - it was something unimaginable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    About that theater. There is some stupid shit going on about it, posts from 12th and 13th March talking about Azov preparing a provocation in the threatre.
    I expect people to start raging at me, but the whole thing feels wrong and off. I will wait until tomorrow, maybe it will be more clear. For now, most of all it looks like there were no 1.2k people in it and I would like to be correct about it.
    Putinista defending Russians committing the worst of atrocities... why am I not surprised. Not even the littled bit. If Putin himself walked up to your door and ate a baby in front of you, you'd probably go "Well, he was hungry, what was he supposed to do? Starve?" I'd wager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Downplaying the holocaust is far more disrespectful.


    Germans never change, I see. Goes to show that Germany was never properly denazified after the war.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims


    Although forgetting about the Romani victims is a very European thing in general.
    Cut that shit out. Don't use one tragedy to justify another... that's beyond tasteless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    That is quite an interesting take - considering how scared Germany is of any mention of swastika, their dislike for military and how much they still keep paying Israel (look at subs and corvettes, to give you a hint).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger
    https://www.businessinsider.nl/forme...onal=true&r=US

    West Germany was pretty terrible at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    justify another... that's beyond tasteless.
    Coming from the guy who is downplaying the holocaust by omitting all the Romani and slavic victims, really classy.
    Don't start this shit if you can't take the heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Stop derailing. We're talking about Russia's warcrimes and your overlord Putin being a little cunt that was spoiled as a child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Almost everything destroyed in this war and on his site (or the Lost Armor, or basically any other reasource) has nothing to do with drones, though. Not to mention the crapload of abandoned/captured vehicles on both sides.
    Yeah, that's why I gave them credit for the work they've put into documenting the losses, but I still think it is trying too hard to market Turkish drones. They're doing a remarkable job when it comes to documenting equipment losses though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Stop derailing. We're talking about Russia's warcrimes and your overlord Putin being a little cunt that was spoiled as a child.
    Typical, disagreeing with downplaying the holocaust must mean I support Putin[or was it the pointing out that Germany was not denazified?]. You can't even find 1 single post close to me supporting Putin, stop being salty over getting called out.


    I don't care its irrelevant to this thread, maybe don't try downplaying the holocaust next time.
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    Will you guys stop talking about Hitler this thread is about Ukraine and Russia today, not 1930/40's Germany.

    Putin is a war criminal to that I have little doubt, hopefully the Russian people will turn on him and break the strangle hold he has on Russia, which he has been cultivating for decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iliena View Post
    Will you guys stop talking about Hitler this thread is about Ukraine and Russia today, not 1930/40's Germany.

    Putin is a war criminal to that I have little doubt, hopefully the Russian people will turn on him and break the strangle hold he has on Russia, which he has been cultivating for decades.
    Lmao I won't till he stops being brought up or I get banned again

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Where is the problem? He was not a Nazi.
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    International Court of Justice tells Russia to stop their invasion.

    Well, I paraphrase, but the ICJ is siding with Ukraine with how Russia's justification for entering Ukraine is unfounded. On a related note, also against the Geneva Convention. Russia, of course, says that the lawsuit is absurd.
    Odds are, that Putput is going to ignore the ruling, since there is no enforcing body, and continue his murderous bullshit, but we now have it on paper that he is on the wrong side of history.

    While not in the article, it was mostly a unanimous ruling, with the only judges disagreeing being the Russian and Chinese judge representatives (of course).

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