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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Would not an armed guard give more than enough reasons
    No. Despite what you'd think there are Rules of Engagement. You don't just shoot someone holding a gun with a group of reporters who clearly have "PRESS" on their vests. Watch them, yes. Confirm their business, yes. But shoot no questions asked, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60793319

    Little boy Putin needed North Korean style of forcing people to attend his little speech. Now an empty stadium wouldn't look so good for the dream-neo-USSR would it?
    That article said he's praising the military for its unity, but yesterday they were traitorous flies to be spat out and executed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dextersmith View Post
    That article said he's praising the military for its unity, but yesterday they were traitorous flies to be spat out and executed.
    The truth often is inconvenient for certain shitposters that keep getting banned solely because of their posts in this thread.

    I suppose it is the very same for now-desperate propaganda of the neo-USSR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Sorry not sorry that I could not find exactly that amongst the crapload of posts in the last 3 weeks.
    Maybe because that poster is making it up and for what ever hypocritical reason, you choose to believe him? Arent you the self proclaimed champion of verifiable information?
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    OK. History doesn't exactly repeat itself, but it sure rhymes.

    Nazis had their weird nonsense esoteric symbol with the swastika.

    Putinista fascists have their weird Z.

    Could you fascists please stop ruining stuff like pagan symbols and letters?

    If you weren't all so unoriginal fucks maybe you could come up with something new and cool of your own.

  6. #11046
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    OK. History doesn't exactly repeat itself, but it sure rhymes.

    Nazis had their weird nonsense esoteric symbol with the swastika.

    Putinista fascists have their weird Z.

    Could you fascists please stop ruining stuff like pagan symbols and letters?

    If you weren't all so unoriginal fucks maybe you could come up with something new and cool of your own.


    General Zod does not approve of those trying to sully the greatest letter in the alphabet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post


    General Zod does not approve of those trying to sully the greatest letter in the alphabet.
    The future has been foretold
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/275530/Z/

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    So here's a personal observation that is only tangentially related to the Russian invasion.

    Pop culture has lied to me.

    I have sort of been conditioned by games, movies and other fiction to think of Russian/Soviet wargear as not just numerous but big, heavy, bulky, sturdy, going up against outnumbered, plucky, flimsy but high tech Western gear.

    But what I've noticed taking now a harder look at most Soviet/Russian gear, is that apart from the odd oversized gun/machine gun, one off plane or bomb most of their gear isn't just old and low tech... But actually small and flimsy.

    Component miniaturisation seems to elude them, basic stuff like optics, electronics etc are few and far between and are often in the hands of "militia" and political units like the Chechens rather than with front line combat units. We've seen images of Russian designated marksmen running Mosin Nagants with WW2 era scopes.

    Their tanks and armored vehicles are small and seem to be extremely vulnerable. Things like reactive armor kits and such only exist on paper. Maintenence is non existent or shit's just so old that no amount of maintenance can guarantee it will run.

    I remember all the airmchar Tom Clancy generals on these forums telling us how the 73736738 thousand Russian tanks could just steamroll Europe and drive into Berlin cuz Russia is stronk...(I can't be arsed to link those threads)... Well they seemingly can't drive for 100 miles from their own bases without ending up in a ditch.

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    China has joined the fight on Russia's side. People HAVE to start believing my speculations before they always happen.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-h...id-for-russia/
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...-s-government/

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    China has joined the fight on Russia's side. People HAVE to start believing my speculations before they always happen.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-h...id-for-russia/
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...-s-government/
    In which world "China is considering support" is equal to "China has joined Russia"?
    Last edited by Barzotti; 2022-03-18 at 07:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    People HAVE to start believing my speculations before they always happen.
    Except all the times they don't. Confirmation bias at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    In which world "China is considering support" is equal to "China has joined Russia"?
    that's horrible in and of itself, but look at article 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    General Zod does not approve of those trying to sully the greatest letter in the alphabet.
    English alphabet. That letter doesn't exist in Cyrillic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I remember all the airmchar Tom Clancy generals on these forums telling us how the 73736738 thousand Russian tanks could just steamroll Europe and drive into Berlin cuz Russia is stronk...(I can't be arsed to link those threads)... Well they seemingly can't drive for 100 miles from their own bases without ending up in a ditch.
    If I'm remembering right Skroe said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that Russian military equipment was only designed to last around 10 years before it gets replaced. I can't remember what he said the reason was but it was built cheap on purpose. I would love his take on what's going on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    If I'm remembering right Skroe said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that Russian military equipment was only designed to last around 10 years before it gets replaced. I can't remember what he said the reason was but it was built cheap on purpose. I would love his take on what's going on now.
    That's certainly not true.

    If anything, Russian equipment is more resilient and requires less maintenance, being simpler in design.

    The maintenance (mal)practices and supply being horrible is not particularly the fault of the equipment itself, however,

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    that's horrible in and of itself, but look at article 2
    Chinese state hackers are targetting everyone, all of the time, that's hardly news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60793319

    Little boy Putin needed North Korean style of forcing people to attend his little speech. Now an empty stadium wouldn't look so good for the dream-neo-USSR would it?
    Somewhere down south, The Annoying Orange says "What? I could have done that? Why didn't anybody tell me?!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

  18. #11058
    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    No sympathy for russians here.

    Russia is a diverse country with a lot of big regions with their own cultural identity and even dialects, me thinks. Splitting the federation into those smaller chunks would tickle me just right, so Russia can taste its own medicine of "People's Republics". Whatever internal conflict they may endure matters not to me - could've just not invaded sovereign countries.
    A civil war with nuclear weapons tickles you right? you want to gamble that none of them are going to lash out against the world with those nukes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    You're basically asking us to have empathy for the bully beating on his victim because he threw out his back in the process.

    Point is, Western foreign policy objectives from here on out needs to be the neutering of Russia as a military and economic power. We tried integration. We tried appeasement. It lead here. Time to cripple it.
    Read your history we did none of these things right, we had that opportunity when the USSR broke up we fucked it up. Also nothing like feeding Putin's propaganda that we are out to destroy the Russian people, great plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Maybe they shouldnt have invaded Ukraine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Are you sure as an American you want to go with the line that nations that invade other sovereign nations on false premises should be crushed? do you lack that much self awareness?

  19. #11059
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Is there context for this? IIRC it's not super uncommon for press to have a local guide/for protection depending on where they're traveling. That doesn't mean press proper are armed, very likely he's guiding them to a location they want to get to.
    It was from here, with a caption "Oleksander, a former journalist in charge of the Ukrainian Army’s public relations, aboard a vehicle branded with the word “press”, near Kyiv, on March 18, 2022. © David Gormezano, France 24"
    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...-kyiv?ref=tw_i

    Funny, photo and that caption now is gone from the article - except if you search for it Google will show the cached text as of now.
    https://imgur.com/a/BD252bw

    Unless I am mistaken - protection for press should be at least in separate car. This is how you and the press get shot.
    P.S.
    Btw, BBC edited that arcticle about BTR-4 a bit, after I sent them email
    "A Ukrainian soldier passes a destroyed armoured vehicle in Kharkiv" - at least that is better...

    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Those look like mercs to me. Probaly hired for a protection after some of press already died.
    He is wearing Ukrainian uniform, flag and all, with a gun. Does not matter if he is a merc or not at that point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    I too would hire armed guard when it's been showed that Russia fires indiscriminately on the press.

    Like, stop fucking carrying water for Russia's bad behavior, jfc.
    How to get press shot 101.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Press is more often than not escorted by military, private security or whatnot when they are in conflict zones. Anyone can stick a fucking "Press" sticker on a car, that doesn't mean they are actually press. That's why they usually need to be escorted by people who have the authority to verify their fucking credentials, especially in a warzone.

    I'm amazed this needs to be explained to you. Well...I tell a lie. I'm not amazed.
    Tell me, what happens when a press car stops in viewing distance of enemy and someone in uniform and with a gun gets out.

    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The Russians are going on some weird shit with the whole Z thing so yes I am not against their civilian population having to bear the consequences of the war they support
    Great, so more war in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by noremorze View Post
    Jumping to conclusions without context is always nice.
    Check above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenik View Post
    Maybe because that poster is making it up and for what ever hypocritical reason, you choose to believe him? Arent you the self proclaimed champion of verifiable information?
    So sorry that I could only provide bunch of very related pictures in the same spirit and not exactly that one, because you do not understand how war happens in the real life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    So here's a personal observation that is only tangentially related to the Russian invasion.

    Pop culture has lied to me.

    I have sort of been conditioned by games, movies and other fiction to think of Russian/Soviet wargear as not just numerous but big, heavy, bulky, sturdy, going up against outnumbered, plucky, flimsy but high tech Western gear.

    But what I've noticed taking now a harder look at most Soviet/Russian gear, is that apart from the odd oversized gun/machine gun, one off plane or bomb most of their gear isn't just old and low tech... But actually small and flimsy.

    Component miniaturisation seems to elude them, basic stuff like optics, electronics etc are few and far between and are often in the hands of "militia" and political units like the Chechens rather than with front line combat units. We've seen images of Russian designated marksmen running Mosin Nagants with WW2 era scopes.

    Their tanks and armored vehicles are small and seem to be extremely vulnerable. Things like reactive armor kits and such only exist on paper. Maintenence is non existent or shit's just so old that no amount of maintenance can guarantee it will run.

    I remember all the airmchar Tom Clancy generals on these forums telling us how the 73736738 thousand Russian tanks could just steamroll Europe and drive into Berlin cuz Russia is stronk...(I can't be arsed to link those threads)... Well they seemingly can't drive for 100 miles from their own bases without ending up in a ditch.
    I just want to point out that you again have no idea what you are talking about. Every single Russian tank in this war is with ERA (or, for that matter, Ukrainian as well, plus I do not think I saw anything from the "republics" which did not have it too). Tells a lot about your ability to recognise vehicles.
    Mossins? Finland still uses them (some are said to be literally made during Tsar times, making at least some parts 100+ years old), and not only them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62_Tkiv_85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    So sorry that I could only provide bunch of very related pictures in the same spirit and not exactly that one, because you do not understand how war happens in the real life.
    They wernt related..
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaaz View Post
    I am constantly seeing our military (Ukrainian military to be exact) ride in ambulances to go between parts of the city.
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    He is right about use of ambulances by soldiers
    How was Gaaz right? Im not saying he isnt, he could be, but without some proof (which should be easy to find, if people are constantly seeing the Ukrainian military ride in ambulances), youre just believing some bozo on the internet, which you harp on others for doing all the time, as if its your job.

    And your passive aggressive attitude is super pathetic.

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