Russian invasion of Ukraine

[jonnysensible]

You are literally denying a battalion that has nazi ss logo on its emblem of being nazi, it's only a "few bad apples" holy fucking shit, n this is the country that hails stephan bandera, do I need to tell you what Israel thinks of Bandera?

Also, it's not just about azov being nazi shitheads, there is also the fact that trying to make ukraine part of nato poses an existential thread. Don't forget that it was america that ripped apart the treaty for mid ballistic missiles, then immediately tests missiles it's not supposed to have had...put those in Ukraine n it's only minutes to strike Moscow.

If Moscow can't put missiles in Cuba, you sure as fuck can't do it in Ukraine. It's amazing that Moscow put up with this shit since 2014 at all tbh.

these talking points are 3 weeks out of date.

[Easo]

You are literally denying a battalion that has nazi ss logo on its emblem of being nazi, it's only a "few bad apples" holy fucking shit, n this is the country that hails stephan bandera, do I need to tell you what Israel thinks of Bandera?

Also, it's not just about azov being nazi shitheads, there is also the fact that trying to make ukraine part of nato poses an existential thread. Don't forget that it was america that ripped apart the treaty for mid ballistic missiles, then immediately tests missiles it's not supposed to have had...put those in Ukraine n it's only minutes to strike Moscow.

If Moscow can't put missiles in Cuba, you sure as fuck can't do it in Ukraine. It's amazing that Moscow put up with this shit since 2014 at all tbh.

Do you know how big is a batallion (even with the reinforcements they have received)? And how many troops Ukraine has?

Oh, yeah, what do you know about Russian troops and some good old "For VDV" headcutting in Syria? Plus as already mentioned - look who made Wagner...

Show me a fucking place without some sickos in the armed forces. We would have to burn the entire world with your logic.

[Poopymonster]

You are calling people fighting nazis, for nazis...holy shit the propaganda is strong in you.

Azov battalion in mariupol, fyi you are siding with literal nazis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

The Azov Battalion Emblem is a combination of Nazi-era symbols like the reversed symbol of Himmler's Schutz Staffel (SS), the special military unit of the Nazi Germany, and the Black Sun an esoteric and occult symbol of the same era. The "Тризуб" (Trident) the national emblem of Ukraine lies under those two and is much smaller size.

Gott im himmel! They must be shitty Nazi's fighting on the side of a Jew.

[Corvus]

Something must have gone seriously wrong for the deputy commander of the Black Sea Fleet to end up dead in the fighting for Mariupol.

Seriously, what is a senior naval officer doing in a ground battle?

[Ihavewaffles]

Do you know how big is a batallion (even with the reinforcements they have received)? And how many troops Ukraine has?

Oh, yeah, what do you know about Russian troops and some good old "For VDV" headcutting in Syria? Plus as already mentioned - look who made Wagner...

Show me a fucking place without some sickos in the armed forces. We would have to burn the entire world with your logic.

Wagner has nothing to do with anything, they don't influence anything, there is no nazi party like svoboda in russia. there are no statues of nazi collaborationts that are hailed as heroes in russia, like in ukraine where nazis n collaborators are heroes.

Wagner? You might as well cry about Blackwater in America, I wouldn't judge America based on Blackwater due to how the rest of the country is different. But with Ukraine treating Bandera like a national hero, it's a fucking different thing.

Also wagner whole org. is hardly nazi, but you have people here actually denying that azov an actual nazi battalion with nazi ss rune symbol somehow aren't nazis...yeah...god the copium is so strong with some here, that's what a century of west saying "Russians bad" does to the brain, that they defend literal nazis...

[uuuhname]

boy I sure hope no one points out how neo Nazis are all over the place in Russia and it's military. almost like this point isn't really a point, but a deflection from something...

[Ihavewaffles]

Gott im himmel! They must be shitty Nazi's fighting on the side of a Jew.

They were around before he got the job, his previous job was stand up comedian, so I guess this is a good joke?...

[Poopymonster]

Something must have gone seriously wrong for the deputy commander of the Black Sea Fleet to end up dead in the fighting for Mariupol.

Seriously, what is a senior naval officer doing in a ground battle?

Dying.

/10bulletholes

[Saradain]

You are literally denying a battalion that has nazi ss logo on its emblem of being nazi, it's only a "few bad apples" holy fucking shit, n this is the country that hails stephan bandera, do I need to tell you what Israel thinks of Bandera?

Also, it's not just about azov being nazi shitheads, there is also the fact that trying to make ukraine part of nato poses an existential threat. Don't forget that it was america that ripped apart the treaty for mid ballistic missiles, then immediately tests missiles it's not supposed to have had...put those in Ukraine n it's only minutes to strike Moscow.

If Moscow can't put missiles in Cuba, you sure as fuck can't do it in Ukraine. It's amazing that Moscow put up with this shit since 2014 at all tbh.

I didn't deny anything. It's ONE military unit with bad people in it, you still justify this invasion war destroying an entire country because of them.

NATO is also a defensive alliance, not an entity seeking world domination, Russia literally proved NATO is most needed in Europe and thank fucking goodness for that, Finland and Sweden heavily leaning towards NATO as we speak!

Let me google some pictures of your home country and find neonazis with the country's flag in it, and call it a valid reason to annihilate your country. Thankfully your shilling and bloodthirst for innocents is going to leave you on the wrong side of history.

If being happy for Azov defending innocent ukrainians from murderous war crime-loving russian filth is about siding with nazis, I'll be a nazi then. My polish wife agrees

[PhaelixWW]

I didn't deny anything. It's ONE military unit with bad people in it, you still justify this invasion war destroying an entire country because of them.

I mean, and the Azov regiment was only founded after Russia invaded in 2014. It's like Ukraine said "Fine, you know what, sure, we'll let these asshats fight against the Russians in Donbas. That's a win/win. Let's send the nazis into the meatgrinder."

It's exactly like conscripting criminals to fight in the military to avoid jail time, which a lot of countries still do.

[Easo]

Wagner has nothing to do with anything, they don't influence anything, there is no nazi party like svoboda in russia. there are no statues of nazi collaborationts that are hailed as heroes in russia, like in ukraine where nazis n collaborators are heroes.

Wagner? You might as well cry about Blackwater in America, I wouldn't judge America based on Blackwater due to how the rest of the country is different. But with Ukraine treating Bandera like a national hero, it's a fucking different thing.

Also wagner whole org. is hardly nazi, but you have people here actually denying that azov an actual nazi battalion with nazi ss rune symbol somehow aren't nazis...yeah...god the copium is so strong with some here, that's what a century of west saying "Russians bad" does to the brain, that they defend literal nazis...

So you can answer after all. Ah, Wagner does not influence anything, yet they are used to plug every single hole needed and their creator is a good friend to the Kremlin elites? Good logic there, Waffles.

So can you fucking explain for once how does this justify the largest war in Europe since WW2? There are more dead Russian soldiers and more dead Ukrainian civilians than there are fighters in that batallion. Good fucking job.

Something must have gone seriously wrong for the deputy commander of the Black Sea Fleet to end up dead in the fighting for Mariupol.

Seriously, what is a senior naval officer doing in a ground battle?

He was not on front lines, IIRC he was doing some organizing tasks. There are couple frigates just outside the Mariupol, likely providing fire support.

[JohnBrown1917]

Gott im himmel! They must be shitty Nazi's fighting on the side of a Jew.

Does not really change they are nazis.

[Ihavewaffles]

I didn't deny anything. It's ONE military unit with bad people in it, you still justify this invasion war destroying an entire country because of them.

NATO is also a defensive alliance, not an entity seeking world domination, Russia literally proved NATO is most needed in Europe and thank fucking goodness for that, Finland and Sweden heavily leaning towards NATO as we speak!

Let me google some pictures of your home country and find neonazis with the country's flag in it, and call it a valid reason to annihilate your country. Thankfully your shilling and bloodthirst for innocents is going to leave you on the wrong side of history.

So, you are still defending literal nazis, is holocaust denial your next talking point?
What israel thinks of Bandera n their ilk
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundre...-collaborator/

"Nato is a defensive alliance" tell that to Libya.

No, don't google Russian nazis, I can do it for you.
well...if it isn't your darling navalny! literally in the front with a huge smile on his face





Oh btw
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna49690021
'Russia for the Russians': Nationalists turn out in force to protest Putin

Thousands of nationalists marched through Moscow on Sunday chanting slogans such as "Russia for the Russians" to protest President Vladimir Putin's government, which they accuse of lavishing privileges on migrants and minorities while ignoring ethnic Russians.

Nov. 5, 2012, 11:48 AM CET / Source: The Associated Press
By MAX SEDDON
Thousands of nationalists marched through Moscow on Sunday chanting slogans such as "Russia for the Russians" to protest President Vladimir Putin's government, which they accuse of lavishing privileges on migrants and minorities while ignoring ethnic Russians.

The anti-Kremlin tone of the nationalists, who once backed Putin, comes as the movement's leaders try to broaden their base in the wake of last winter's historic opposition protests against the Russian leader. Some nationalists are even denouncing violence and racism, which many mainstream opposition activists view with suspicion.

Sunday's march took place on Unity Day, a national holiday established in 2005 to replace commemorations of the Bolshevik Revolution. It has become associated with the nationalist "Russian March," which has taken a stridently anti-Kremlin tone. More than 40 marches were held throughout the country during the day.

Putin is "scared of us. He feels his time is coming to an end, because the future belongs to us," Alexander Belov, leader of the nationalist group Russkie, told the marchers in Moscow.

The Levada Center, an independent Russian survey agency, says its studies indicate that nearly half of Russians resent government subsidies to the restive, mostly Muslim Caucasus republics and dislike migrants from both the Caucasus and the former Soviet Central Asian states.

Such sentiments often overlap with the opposition movement that dramatically rose up last December after parliamentary elections tainted by fraud claims. Prominent opposition figure Alexei Navalny has called on the Kremlin to "stop feeding the Caucasus," particularly Chechnya, and was one of the Russian March's organizers until this year.

[Forogil]

Wagner has nothing to do with anything, they don't influence anything, there is no nazi party like svoboda in russia. there are no statues of nazi collaborationts that are hailed as heroes in russia

Except that Putin admires Stalin, a Nazi collaborator; who just was stabbed in the back by the Nazis. And the Wagner group is used by Russian leaders to do their dirty business in Ukraine and Mali and other places.

Wagner? You might as well cry about Blackwater in America,

Do Blackwater "military leaders" wear SS-tattoos and listen to Nazi-esque music? If not, then they aren't as the Wagner group.

[Corvus]

He was not on front lines, IIRC he was doing some organizing tasks. There are couple frigates just outside the Mariupol, likely providing fire support.

If he wasn't on the frontline he must have been very close to it to end up dead. Which again means something went seriously wrong. A couple of frigates don't need to be organised from where the deputy commander of the fleet can end up being killed by the defenders of a besieged city.

[Easo]

So, you are still defending literal nazis, is holocaust denial your next talking point?

What I found funny, Waffles, is that Russian far righters became much more silent after Ukraine events went off. Almost like that was a bad image...
I remember regular news from the 2000's and the early 2010's about foreign students in Moscow regularly being beaten up, sometimes killed, while the usual punishment was "hooliganism".
Gee, why did those cases stopped? Someone finally reigned them in? xD

Does not really change they are nazis.

Ukraine is in the unenviable position where they cannot turn down questionable motivated volunteers willing to fight. We might argue that after their usefulness (?) in the battles of 2014/2015 they should have been fully removed by now, but alas.

If he wasn't on the frontline he must have been very close to it to end up dead. Which again means something went seriously wrong. A couple of frigates don't need to be organised from where the deputy commander of the fleet can end up being killed by the defenders of a besieged city.

Who the hell knows. Maybe he was 10+ km away but an artillery shell arrived and Ukrainians overheard the results on a radio.
As for coordination - navy has more personell than just those on the ships. From what I understand - this dude was currently not serving on one.

At least this one is oficially confirmed by Russia, as opposed to the rest.

[snebb]

Something must have gone seriously wrong for the deputy commander of the Black Sea Fleet to end up dead in the fighting for Mariupol.

Seriously, what is a senior naval officer doing in a ground battle?

I dare say this, and every other commander kill, has been the direct impact of intel they will be getting from US/other parties.
'Cutting the head off the snake' kinda thing.

[Edge-]

Man, turnips are still pushing the, "All Ukranians are Nazi's and Russia is just de-nazifying the nation!" nonsense?

Didn't even Russia drop that hilarious line after the first week of invading?

[Corvus]

Speaking of Nazis, Wagner (led by an actual Nazi, not a pretend one) is reportedly arranging to bring in Libyan mercenaries now to fight for Russia.

[Vorkreist]

So, you are still defending literal nazis,

Says the creep defending genocide and daily blasting of civilians with month old propaganda.