Russian invasion of Ukraine

[MCMLXXXII]

Oh I was just talking about today's bingo card. It's just shy of 1 am here.

I need a new one every time he posts

[Kaleredar]

Only foolish people could think Russia will fold in days, or a single month.

Have you listened to the Leningrad song I linked above? It's only 3 minutes long. I'm interested in your opinion - he seems to lament something, but it's open for interpretation what exactly.

Russian music?

I wonder what pussy riot is up to these days…

[Shalcker]

Have you listened to the Leningrad song I linked above? It's only 3 minutes long. I'm interested in your opinion - he seems to lament something, but it's open for interpretation what exactly.

End of generational epoch.

Quite sad it had come to an end; but you're well aware that it was going downhill for a long time.

"Living in interesting times" and all. We'll see how new world will shake up.

I expect globalism to be dead and buried, splintering back to regional cultural and trade blocks.

And a lot of things considered important on this forum to elicit a smile about "good old days" in a year's time.

[Poopymonster]

He reportedly suffered a heart attack.

Hey what're the symptoms of Novichok poisoning again? Just curious.

The term is Cardiac Arrest.
I mean, your heart stops for a variety of reasons.
Heart disease. Poor diet. Disappointing your Vladdy.

[Dontrike]

That was also timeframe in which some people expected Russian economy to fold, bank runs and all.

What? The timeframe of Russia believing it would win in days is based on other people expecting Russian economy to tank?

Is Mariupol falling part of Ukrainian plan?

Even for you that was lame, in fact both were.

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What do you think is Ukrainian plan? Lose cities, soldiers, and military equipment until Russia gets frustrated enough to leave while pumping out war propaganda?

Oh sweet summer child, you actually believe Russia is winning. Even if they take Ukraine they don't win. There's no winning, but there is losing less.

[Slant]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/...wUslc4ua3aeaSg

#Scholz said that #Germany is able to abandon #Russian #gas faster than it is commonly believed.

The chancellor also added that the process of independence of the #EU countries from Russian gas is now irreversible.

There you go. I've said it before, but maybe now people will believe me. EU is slow sometimes, but once you get the EU moving, there's no stopping. This will end with permanent isolation of Russia. Even if sanctions are lifted, as long as Putin is in charge, nobody will want to entangle themselves with a country that has a history of inviting sanctions that forces them to abandon business again.

[AntiFascistVoter]

Russian music?

I wonder what pussy riot is up to these days…

There's a great scene if you're into darksynth, post punk, and witch house music. You can see it influence Pussy Riot's more recent releases.



<3 for IC3PEAK

[Gabriel]

The off-ramp is that russia fucks off from Ukraine and maybe one day the relationship between russia and the West might get better again.

I mean, besides Putin off-ramping himself of course.

[Shalcker]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/...wUslc4ua3aeaSg

There you go. I've said it before, but maybe now people will believe me. EU is slow sometimes, but once you get the EU moving, there's no stopping. This will end with permanent isolation of Russia. Even if sanctions are lifted, as long as Putin is in charge, nobody will want to entangle themselves with a country that has a history of inviting sanctions that forces them to abandon business again.

"Faster" as in 2027 rather then 2030?

Some things need a lot more real work then proclamations. Work that cannot get much faster no matter how much money you pump into it.

[Kathranis]

Some things need a lot more real work then proclamations. Work that cannot get much faster no matter how much money you pump into it.

Like the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, right?

[Dontrike]

"Faster" as in 2027 rather then 2030?

Someone's upset their country is nothing more than a glorified gas station that has a weaker military to some farmers.

[PhaelixWW]

"Faster" as in 2027 rather then 2030?

If you think relations between the West and Russia will be "normal" by 2030 without, at the very least, a severe and meaningful regime change, then you're delusional.

Edit: Misread the original quote, I think.

But, no, it's not going to take 5 years to disengage with Russian oil.

[Corvus]

"Faster" as in 2027 rather then 2030?

Some things need a lot more real work then proclamations. Work that cannot get much faster no matter how much money you pump into it.

50% reduction this year, total reduction by 2024.

[Gabriel]

Someone's upset their country is nothing more than a glorified gas station that has a weaker military to some farmers.

[ ] not told
[ ] told
[x] told beyond repair

[jonnysensible]

Putin proposing zero tax for IT companies as 50,000 - 70,000 IT professionals flee Russia.

So much for modernization. Some people will live in a dictatorship for those fast bucks (i did in the middleeast for a bit) but you'd have to be mad to want to stay if you are highly skilled and can get work elsewhere. Its not like Russia is particularly attractive.

[XDurionX]

There's a great scene if you're into darksynth, post punk, and witch house music. You can see it influence Pussy Riot's more recent releases.



<3 for IC3PEAK

Not into the music but i like their attitude. Guess the latter are in trouble for gay propaganda?

[Gabriel]

Putin proposing zero tax for IT companies as 50,000 - 70,000 IT professionals flee Russia.

So much for modernization. Some people will live in a dictatorship for those fast bucks (i did in the middleeast for a bit) but you'd have to be mad to want to stay if you are highly skilled and can get work elsewhere. Its not like Russia is particularly attractive.

Sweet. Nikita will get to pocket even more money from Escape From Tarkov.

[Shalcker]

If you think relations between the West and Russia will be "normal" by 2030 without, at the very least, a severe and meaningful regime change, then you're delusional.

Edit: Misread the original quote, I think.

But, no, it's not going to take 5 years to disengage with Russian oil.

They are talking about gas, not oil.

At least for oil most of it already goes in tankers, so you could potentially shuffle them around; dropping Russian heavy oil still means major diesel shortages in a lot of areas (apparently that's where Russian types go into the mix for refinement) until you reconnect Iran and Venezuela replacements (and Iran already got themselves total exemption dealing with Russia).

For LNG there isn't quite as much spare tanker, pipeline, or LNG terminal capacity for EU - you have to actually build them the slow way.

2027 for "no Russian gas at all" is already super-accelerated timeline.

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50% reduction this year, total reduction by 2024.

So far that's claim for Germany alone; it remains to be seen if their projections will actually work, even if they'll draw LNG at expense of the rest of the world (which still needs their LNG too).

[Vorkreist]

Is Mariupol falling part of Ukrainian plan?

Glorious russian army so strong it can only defeat unarmed civilians.

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50,000 - 70,000 IT professionals flee Russia.

This is part of the USSR strategy of gathering and concentrating talent and brain power that Shilcker was talking about.

[Shalcker]

Glorious russian army so strong it can only defeat unarmed civilians.

Azov are apparently now unarmed civilians?

At least have some respect for their struggle if you support Ukraine.