Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Bakis]

Because United States invaded China. Isn't that simple?

The U.S. pilots in the Flying Tigers who helped China fend off the Japanese Air force?
Refresh our memories.

[Azadina]

Doesn't have enough of them hmhm. Whatever, you got nuked and you died that is enough.

BTW, nobody can prevent China for creating more nukes.

Except China just nuked me you said. China is prevented from creating more since now it's smoldering ruins and doesn't exist anymore.

Pick one.

[PhaelixWW]

Taiwan has no sovereignty. It is not technically even a country.

Sure it is.

It is funny you guys talk about how Russia hurts the sovereignty of Ukraine but support United States and it allies hurt a lot of other nations, including China's sovereignty.

So again... when has the US invaded China?

[Breccia]

Tell lord Putin to call it off soon then. Otherwise Ukrainians are running out of Ruskies to frag inside Ukraine.

WHOA WHOA WHOA! That's not accurate at all!

...some are being run over by their own tanks.

[ruwshtyb]

Sure it is.

Sure it isn't. Anyone who says it is is liar.

So again... when has the US invaded China?

They are still doing that right now. Sending navy in China territory without China's permission.

[Shadowferal]

You guys are allowing a troll to derail the thread. This isn't about China or Taiwan.
Ignore him and move on.

[ruwshtyb]

You guys are allowing a troll to derail the thread. This isn't about China or Taiwan.
Ignore him and move on.

Hahaha. Said by trolls like you who claim "China will invade taiwan".

[PhaelixWW]

You guys are allowing a troll to derail the thread. This isn't about China or Taiwan.
Ignore him and move on.

Fair point. It's not like that poster is anything but obvious in their propaganda, anyway.

[Slant]

Nah that's nonsense. We can continue to create deterrants and obstacles that will dissuade China from conquering Taiwan.

You realise that for the past 80 or however many years, Taiwan was allowed to act pretty independently, as long as nobody pressed the issue of their actual, formal independence much? China is happy letting Taiwan be what it is, as long as people like you don't get all righteous about their formal legal status.

It's people like you that are the biggest danger to Taiwan right now. You're risking their actual, practical freedom based on your personal principle of formality. What you need to do is back the fuck off. Do what the US did, make a point about international waters and whatnot, and other than that, not poke the bear about actual Taiwanese independence.

[Azadina]

WHOA WHOA WHOA! That's not accurate at all!

...some are being run over by their own tanks.

Now now, if we're being precise here, I didn't say Ukrainians do all the fragging. I merely suggested the supply of Ruskies to frag are going to run low for Ukrainians. That'll be correct even if some of the Ruskies assist in that.



On another note, maybe the message struck his nerve. Some parts about his countrymen I did word in a way that was supposed to sting. Was it too mean?

[Slant]

Taiwan IS part of china. Anyone who said it isn't is brainwashed by mainstream media.

It's more complicated than that. A lot more complicated than that.

[ruwshtyb]

Fair point. It's not like that poster is anything but obvious in their propaganda, anyway.

This thread itself is propaganda and echo chamber. NATO is defact a threat to the world since any conflict would result in WW3 since it would drag too many nations in war.

[Bakis]

You guys are allowing a troll to derail the thread. This isn't about China or Taiwan.
Ignore him and move on.

Na, reported him then I moved on.

[Slant]

Pfft China isn't going to start a nuclear war over Taiwan. It's not worth it.

Bold assessment.

[Shadowferal]

Fair point. It's not like that poster is anything but obvious in their propaganda, anyway.

He's claiming shit that doesn't exist.
The sexual tension between Ukraine and Russia...now that...no. No, that doesn't exist either.

[Slant]

He's claiming shit that doesn't exist.
The sexual tension between Ukraine and Russia...now that...no. No, that doesn't exist either.

Is that the sexual tension between a man abusing his wife in a long string of domestic violence? The one where the wife for some reason becomes even more dependent on him?

[D Luniz]

speaking of russian tanks, and less about their choice of surface to use them on (ew)
anyone know how the supply chain parts needed to maintain them is holding up?
Im guessing its not as bad as the airplanes they stole are holding on to since Im sure they had the sense to have some ability in house to make parts the tanks, but if the last month has shown anything, despite someone's claims about how bad globalism is, Russia seemed to be happy to go all in on it.

[Shadowferal]

Is that the sexual tension between a man abusing his wife in a long string of domestic violence? The one where the wife for some reason becomes even more dependent on him?

Umm...foreplay?

[Kaleredar]

This thread itself is propaganda and echo chamber. NATO is defact a threat to the world since any conflict would result in WW3 since it would drag too many nations in war.

Seeing as it's a defensive alliance... just don't piss any of those countries off.

Should be simple enough. Just don't get all high and mighty like Russia tried to do in invading a sovereign nation in a bald-faced land grab, and everything is A-Okay.

Single, rogue states, like Russia, who act on their own wild caprices in either trying to be something they're not and/or trying to recapture something they were, are the "dangers," here.

Evidence: Russia, invading Ukraine.

Note that while individuals countries of NATO likely would love the opportunity to smack Russia back into place, they haven't, because Russia didn't actually invade a member of NATO. Because, as I and others have said, NATO is a defensive alliance.

Having friends in the world pays off, rather than doing what Russia has done, and is doing, in pissing every other country off by monkeying around in their politics or, as of recently... invading their neighbors.

[Poopymonster]

...you do know that the civil war started because the south declared war on the north, right?

I suppose the south could have just willingly abolished slavery, the reason for the war. But they didn't and they weren't going to.

The war of Northern Aggression was because the South refused to move from Organic Farm Implements to the more costly mechanical versions.
/s