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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    But free saunas?
    You have to jump into the freezing water afterwards. "Free" is debatable in that context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    That means war will go on until one of sides gets an upper hand to force their will. How long did it take to break Barbarossa?

    I guess ten to twenty millions of refugees shouldn't be too much for Europe to handle?
    does that include all the russian refugees fleeing russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    That means war will go on until one of sides gets an upper hand to force their will. How long did it take to break Barbarossa?

    I guess ten to twenty millions of refugees shouldn't be too much for Europe to handle?
    So according to your analogy, Russia should just give up invading like Germany did?

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    You have to jump into the freezing water afterwards. "Free" is debatable in that context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    I guess ten to twenty millions of refugees shouldn't be too much for Europe to handle?
    They can probably take that many Russians, sure. Shame they won't be allowed to leave with any money.

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...st-claims.html

    So, what's this all about?

    Russian grunts injuring their own officer. Surely for sending him off the battlefield to protect him? All according to the plan?

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    Can definitely tell Shilcker is back given the pages and pages of shit every time I come and look so checking for new information from here just isn’t worth the effort till his next vacation.
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
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    to your ublock or adblock filter to actually ignore ignored posters. Now just need a way to ignore responses to them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Stop teasing me.
    I, for one, would welcome our meth fueled overlords.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...st-claims.html

    So, what's this all about?

    Russian grunts injuring their own officer. Surely for sending him off the battlefield to protect him? All according to the plan?
    seems like nonsense tbh. Ukraine doesn't need imaginary stories its doing enough real damage to Russian troops.

    Imagine how badly NATO would roll this army if they are being held by Ukraine. Every dead Russian is one less who can threaten Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...st-claims.html

    So, what's this all about?

    Russian grunts injuring their own officer. Surely for sending him off the battlefield to protect him? All according to the plan?
    While it's the Daily Mail so I take it with a huge grain of salt, let me channel my inner Shillcker:

    All according to plan, the officer was wounded and didn't make Russia proud, so the soldier was putting him out of his misery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Can definitely tell Shilcker is back given the pages and pages of shit every time I come and look so checking for new information from here just isn’t worth the effort till his next vacation.
    It’s baffling how his suspensions are still of the temporary sort after this long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    While it's the Daily Mail so I take it with a huge grain of salt, let me channel my inner Shillcker:

    All according to plan, the officer was wounded and didn't make Russia proud, so the soldier was putting him out of his misery
    I admit that I just glanced on this piece of news on finnish newspapers live-following the course of the war, so I googled the reporter's name in the finnish live-feed and got this article for it.

    I'd still have infinitely more faith in Daily Mail posting legit information compared to Z-hillcker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    that sounds like asking a person being raped to stop fighting back against their rapist to stop violence. (and then the rapist asking the dumb question well aren't you against violence??)
    No, i'm not against violence.

    I prefer world without it aesthetically, and i'd rather not suffer it personally (or see anyone else suffer), but as it exists it remains as a tool in human arsenal. Like surgery - people being cut is clearly bad, but sometimes seen as necessary.

    And limiting use of violence requires a lot more then wishful thinking.

    Russia wants NATO to stop expanding
    Russia attacks non-NATO country
    Approval inside of some non NATO countries of joining NATO goes up..
    Putin: Shocked pikachu face.....
    Noone who paid any attention is surprised.
    Non-negotiable "NATO expansion show-stopper" only related to Ukraine and Georgia.
    If you look at articles that was quite clear to IR scholars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    While it's the Daily Mail so I take it with a huge grain of salt, let me channel my inner Shillcker:

    All according to plan, the officer was wounded and didn't make Russia proud, so the soldier was putting him out of his misery
    He was doing his duty to Mother Russia. The tank treads needed greasing. The brave hero was keeping the lubricant warm. In his veins.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Can definitely tell Shilcker is back given the pages and pages of shit every time I come and look so checking for new information from here just isn’t worth the effort till his next vacation.
    Troll farms is a steady paycheck. Unlike the majority of jobs in Russia.
    Ukraine’s government has officially registered the Moskva cruiser wreck on the Black Sea bottom as a national underwater cultural heritage site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Non-negotiable "NATO expansion show-stopper" only related to Ukraine and Georgia.
    This is false. There is an extensive thread on these very forums filled with actual Russians quoted saying the same kind of thing about Finland and Sweden.

    What you have said, is a lie. You are lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    This is false. There is an extensive thread on these very forums filled with actual Russians quoted saying the same kind of thing about Finland and Sweden.

    What you have said, is a lie. You are lying.
    **shocked**
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    Take that haters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    Ah, so the "great Russian Empire" is equating itself to... A kid's book author...

    Yikes.
    and she's not even "canceled", there is another Harry Potter universe movie about to release, and if canceled comes with those sort of royalty checks, I want to get canceled
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    seems like nonsense tbh. Ukraine doesn't need imaginary stories its doing enough real damage to Russian troops.

    Imagine how badly NATO would roll this army if they are being held by Ukraine. Every dead Russian is one less who can threaten Europe.
    NATO airpower would have made them ground meat on week 1, like happened to couple hundred wagners in Syria against US defended point.
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Yes, somewhere by 2030.

    Europe loses cheap pipeline gas, and all economic benefits that went with it, replacing it with more costly LNG.

    Russia over same years just builds more interconnectors to pump gas to China and Russian LNG terminals, getting exact same benefits in the end as gas still gets sold and world consumption of it still grows.

    Europe paid for Yamal-Europe during Soviet times. Europe paid for NS1 and NS2. It's European decades of investments you're throwing down the drain.

    For shops customer that acts as "Karen", throws hissy fits and tries to bend rules along the way - and then steals money from shop's counter - is better off being lost then placated.
    EU needs Russian’s gas. There is no denying that. However, Russia needs EU also. China is no replacement for EU. At least not in the near future.

    According to EIA, Russia exported 7 trillion cubic feet of natural gas to EU in 2021. Around 0.7 trillion cubic feet to China. Which coincidentally matched the current maximum capacity of the 56-inch diameter Power of Siberia pipeline with the currently operating compressor stations. The schedule before the war indicates that it will reach a capacity of 1.3 trillion cubic feet per year by 2025, and the pipeline peak capacity of 2.2 trillion cubic feet by 2030. Even at peak capacity it is still not enough to replace the loss of EU natural gas consumption.

    For comparison, Australia is the largest exporter of natural gas to China with 40% of the market. US is #2 (and growing) and Qatar is #3. In 2021, Russia was #6. Behind Indonesia.

    It boils down to the fact that there are 2 major issues with natural gas export from Russia to China - capacity and cost.

    The maximum capacity of transporting gas through pipeline is governed by Boyle’s law. The only limit to transporting LNG through the sea routes is the availability of tankers.

    Then there is the cost. Including the pipeline cost amortized over 30 years and energy cost, even heavily discounted, the Chinese currently pays around $780 per ton for Russian’s natural gas. LNG tankers are much cheaper. LNG from Australia & US cost the Chinese less than $500 per ton.

  20. #13480
    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    And why should an innocent nation cede anything to an aggressor? Ukraine has done nothing to warrant the purging of their population.
    "Innocence" is in the eye of beholder; Russia doesn't see Ukraine that way, and we're long past the point where you could convince it otherwise.

    Why do you personally think a bully should be given what they want, or the blame is shifted on the victim for getting hurt?
    Because alternative can be bully hitting his target until it dies.

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