1. #14401
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Funny story: MOEX actually improved a little on the claims that Russia and Ukraine would hold peace talks.
    That still means absolutely nothing when it remains a closed market for foreign investors banned from selling and the central bank is doing its best to prop it up. Or did I miss an update that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snebb View Post
    That still means absolutely nothing
    This is correct.

    There is a currently posted date when foreigners can dump all their worthless Russian stocks. I believe it's a weekish away. But Russia's word is worthless, and I think the expectation is (a) that deadline mysteriously moves back or (b) the government stops the immediate crash that follows by halting trading till 2025.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Special taskforce "Babushki" are decrying Biden and cutting diplomatic relations with USA
    Tweet says "babkas" which makes me sad. Babka is great stuff. It's like brioche and pain au chocolat got into the teleporter at the same time.

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    So, Putin should turn on the BBC and get some more accurate news of how the war is going?

    It would be funny if people weren't dying.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    By the way we are over 4 million refugees. First very likely issue I can see is crisis in Poland, if this drags on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post

    Tweet says "babkas" which makes me sad. Babka is great stuff. It's like brioche and pain au chocolat got into the teleporter at the same time.
    I chose to use babushki - because babkas/babi is a bit insulting. Think of something like "old women", but derogatory, unlike "grandmas".
    As for the food - yeah, that one is good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    I get a strong "30 Helens Agree" vibe.
    I had to google that, something like it indeed, except without dissent,
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

  5. #14405
    Quote Originally Posted by dextersmith View Post
    I would love to see his reaction upon finding out. He can't kill all his staff. How could a former intelligence agent be so uninformed? Everything is on the news.

    A tweet I saw a week or two ago: "Doesn't Putin remember lying to his superiors when he was an FSB/KGB officer?"

  6. #14406
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I can tell where at least some oil is going - Indonesia (specifically Pertamina, the state oil company) wants more Russian crude.
    At 20 - 25% discount, as long as there is no sanction on Russia's oil & gas, it would be silly not to. Buy ESPO at $81.96, mix with Indonesia DURI crude and sell it to Japan at $115.75 (going rate for DURI). What's not to like?

    The payment can get a bit tricky. India is paying Russia with the money in their weapon purchase account. Not sure how Indonesia will manage that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    At 20 - 25% discount, as long as there is no sanction on Russia's oil & gas, it would be silly not to. Buy ESPO at $81.96, mix with Indonesia DURI crude and sell it to Japan at $115.75 (going rate for DURI). What's not to like?

    The payment can get a bit tricky. India is paying Russia with the money in their weapon purchase account. Not sure how Indonesia will manage that.
    I am sure they will figure something out, Russia has been dealing with them for a long time (I have read about issues, though). We probably will see wider acceptance of Russian Mir payment system and China's one as well.
    Well, as per jokes on Ru interwebs - there is always the palm oil option xD
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    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

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    It's a start, now let's see what happens next.

    Under 20% of Russian troops seen leaving Kyiv area

    Obviously, re-arm, repair and resupply, but are they going, as expected, to the Donbass or back to Kyiv.
    Last edited by Iphie; 2022-03-30 at 08:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I am sure they will figure something out, Russia has been dealing with them for a long time (I have read about issues, though). We probably will see wider acceptance of Russian Mir payment system and China's one as well.
    Well, as per jokes on Ru interwebs - there is always the palm oil option xD
    Russia can’t figure out the war they’re actively engaging in, I highly doubt they’ve got some 5-dimensional chess plan laid out to save their crumbling economy second-hand trading oil.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Russia can’t figure out the war they’re actively engaging in, I highly doubt they’ve got some 5-dimensional chess plan laid out to save their crumbling economy second-hand trading oil.
    Id go with "people who peaked in the 1970s" thinking they would be fighting a 1970s war.

  11. #14411
    Russia fanbots: Russia is holding back the big stuff.

    Meanwhile: Technicals.

    Explanation on Technicals


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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Is this to suggest that BBC is on par with Russia propoganda? "But the other side!" sort of thing?
    I viewed that as a more obvious "The BBC is going to have more accurate information than what Putlers lackeys are telling him" thing.
    "If you are ever asking yourself 'Is Trump lying or is he stupid?', the answer is most likely C: All of the Above" - Seth Meyers

  13. #14413
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Is this to suggest that BBC is on par with Russia propaganda? "But the other side!" sort of thing?
    Oo
    No, its the suggestion that if Putin is being lied to by his own people about the state of the war he will get a more accurate report by reading a reliable Western source and the BBC is generally seen as a reliable source of global news. I could have said CNN but then we'd have other people in here complaining about about the state of CNN.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    Meh 60% are duds, i'll take my chances too!



    /joke

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    So, eh, The Russians are withdrawing from Chernobyl (Chornobyl?)?

    https://twitter.com/AFP/status/15092...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...m-chernobyl-us
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...fc2d0b6774b18c

    Short articles, but apparently something is going on.

  17. #14417
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Chemical weapons? I could see that happening.
    It will happen. don't doubt that much. This will happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    But nukes?
    That will happen if the chemical weapons fail to take any meaningful initiative or help regain any ground and Russia is still getting its ass kicked afterward. But that's a stretch considering chemical weapons are barely short of nukes in destructiveness. I wonder why NATO wouldn't take initiative when chemical WMDs are deployed considering the environmental death spreading well past Ukraine after.
    Last edited by YUPPIE; 2022-03-30 at 09:43 PM.

  18. #14418
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    So, eh, The Russians are withdrawing from Chernobyl (Chornobyl?)?

    https://twitter.com/AFP/status/15092...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...m-chernobyl-us
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...fc2d0b6774b18c

    Short articles, but apparently something is going on.
    It seems like the Russians there were not taught about Chornobyl, kicked up all the radiation and essentially got radiation sickness.

  19. #14419
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    It seems like the Russians there were not taught about Chornobyl, kicked up all the radiation and essentially got radiation sickness.
    ...found out the worst way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    So, eh, The Russians are withdrawing from Chernobyl (Chornobyl?)?

    https://twitter.com/AFP/status/15092...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
    https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...m-chernobyl-us
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...fc2d0b6774b18c

    Short articles, but apparently something is going on.
    This might be why, if true.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MrKovalen...78005469847574

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