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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    The Russian government is going to be loathe to admit that a loose collective of hackers is making its life miserable though.

    If Russia does acknowledge Anonymous' hackings, they will likely claim it's a front for US/NATO cyberattacks against Russia.
    It probably partly is. Gives a convenient cover of plausible deniability.
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    How much more can Russia get away with waving this nuclear weapon card? In 2022 alone, they've committed every war crime imaginable in Ukraine, committed cyberattacks on Western powers, disrupted food lines and trade on sea, violated disputed territorial pacts, and have outright said the concept of provocation is at their discretion: What I mean is we might not outright fight them, but they may interpret *anything* as war like being pushed back into a corner enough.

    And with the cyber attacks on NATO, isn't it time to enact Article 5?

    https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/...russian-attack
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...le-2022-03-30/
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    France has fired its head of military intelligence for not predicting the war, which ran counter to the correct US assessment.

    And Russia has announced a ceasefire at Mariupol for Thursday to allow civilians (those not dead already) to evacuate. I'll give that about 3 seconds before they start shooting them or abducting them to take back to Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    France has fired its head of military intelligence for not predicting the war, which ran counter to the correct US assessment.

    And Russia has announced a ceasefire at Mariupol for Thursday to allow civilians (those not dead already) to evacuate. I'll give that about 3 seconds before they start shooting them or abducting them to take back to Russia.
    Eh...that's odd, isn't it usually Ukraine announcing and then the corridor failing? This is a tad unexpected. But yeah, it'll likely fail like most of the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    With what money...? They could barely keep Soviet ones alive (and doing that is probably the main reason why Ukraine could field the current army), ask Antonov. Western help is not gonna focus on military industry first, but more important shit, like the destroyed infrastructure.

    Is it a chance to built everything by the standards/book? Yes. But I have my doubts, primary because money really really will be needed for other tasks.
    With Western money, obviously. Times change, welcome to the new world order.

    Economists will correct me if I'm wrong - Covid relief created too much money and worsened the inflation, especially in USA, and Russian invasion is creating an efficient way to drain some of this redundant money into Ukrainian war effort, and in future "Marshall plan" equivalent, which will help stabilize Western economies. Putin helped the Biden administration with his war, ironically.

    Will some of it get embezzled? Zelensky promised to fight corruption, we'll see.
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    It's not 2004. People have lives, jobs, families etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynep View Post
    With Western money, obviously. Times change, welcome to the new world order.

    Economists will correct me if I'm wrong - Covid relief created too much money and worsened the inflation, especially in USA, and Russian invasion is creating an efficient way to drain some of this redundant money into Ukrainian war effort, and in future "Marshall plan" equivalent, which will help stabilize Western economies. Putin helped the Biden administration with his war, ironically.

    Will some of it get embezzled? Zelensky promised to fight corruption, we'll see.
    Wasn't Zelensky himslef caught in the Panama Papers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    The Russian government is going to be loathe to admit that a loose collective of hackers is making its life miserable though.

    If Russia does acknowledge Anonymous' hackings, they will likely claim it's a front for US/NATO cyberattacks against Russia.
    Haha, I'm not convinced they aren't some state actor. That said, civilians can of course do a lot of damage too... but...

    Not saying I'm against it. I'm happy we have such potent weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang View Post
    Wasn't Zelensky himslef caught in the Panama Papers?
    yes. He's not a good guy, just like Navalny. But Putin is the very embodiment of evil so a lot of not-so-nice people are saints by comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    yes. He's not a good guy, just like Navalny. But Putin is the very embodiment of evil so a lot of not-so-nice people are saints by comparison.
    Remember this?

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    it would. it would. I have fifteen documented pages of posts of posters here claiming he's "not that stupid" or "insane" to do that and I am "drooling over a nightmare fantasy" that is never set to pass in reality.

    Until he does though, there is nothing left to say from me. I will just wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    digging trenches in Chernobyl, how fucking dumb can you be
    Not great, not terrible. Damn, now I need to rewatch Chernobyl.

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    Oh, speaking of callbacks:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    What happens?

    Russia bankrupts itself, and makes the lives of 144 million Russians and 44 million Ukrainians miserable.
    Hey Mihalik, how do you feel about this early December post? And also, how do you feel about leading questions?

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    Corridor is open in Mariupol, The international Red Cross has confirmed Russia agreed with the opening.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/convoy...ys-2022-03-31/

    Let's see if it holds. (I have exceedingly low expectations.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Corridor is open in Mariupol, The international Red Cross has confirmed Russia agreed with the opening.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/convoy...ys-2022-03-31/

    Let's see if it holds. (I have exceedingly low expectations.)
    Did they manage to changed/agreed to the route initially reported that went via a Russian controlled pit stop?
    (reached my limit @Reuters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Corridor is open in Mariupol, The international Red Cross has confirmed Russia agreed with the opening.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/convoy...ys-2022-03-31/

    Let's see if it holds. (I have exceedingly low expectations.)
    I give it a 0.1% chance (and not the resident shill's 0.1%) either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    Did they manage to changed/agreed to the route initially reported that went via a Russian controlled pit stop?
    (reached my limit @Reuters)
    Yeah, it's the one going through Berdiansk, to Zaporizhzhia (sorry if I use the wrong spellings, it's a bit difficult to figure out which is which.). Thee involvement of the international Red Cross may be positive though. So far it seems to work. *knocks on wood*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Yeah, it's the one going through Berdiansk, to Zaporizhzhia (sorry if I use the wrong spellings, it's a bit difficult to figure out which is which.). Thee involvement of the international Red Cross may be positive though. So far it seems to work.
    Yes, that was a demand from Ukrainian side and rightfully so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Remember this?



    Didn't even manage one single day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    As far as him being a former intelligence agent: his superiors apparently felt he was a mediocre agent at best:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ies-ukraine-us

    From the article:
    I think that a person like Putin could never be a good agent. But I also think that that's not an indication of incompetence. Putin's first most priority is Putin. I think this has always been the case, and to be a top agent you must regard the safety of your country greater than your own. A person like Putin would never take the risks those people take.

    The current war is an indication of his incompetence tho.

  19. #14459
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Reminds me of this article from earlier today:

    In one way, I have sympathy for the Russians, that does not recognise their country, and leave.

    However, I'd hate to have a large minority of Russians in my country. Some day Russia might want to "liberate" them. They should stay and fix their country, instead of seeking asylum in the countries that their leader is agressive towards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrouded View Post
    Head of Britain's GCHQ spy service says some Russian soldiers are refusing to carry out orders

    On Wednesday, Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) chief Jeremy Fleming said that there’s new intelligence that shows some Russian soldiers in Ukraine have sabotaged their own equipment and accidentally shot down one of their own aircrafts, Reuters is reporting.

    “We’ve seen Russian soldiers short of weapons and morale - refusing to carry out orders, sabotaging their own equipment and even accidentally shooting down their own aircraft,” Fleming said in a speech in Canberra at the Australian National University.

    “Putin has massively misjudged the situation,” Fleming said. “We believe Putin*s advisers are afraid to tell him the truth.” Reuters was unable to independently confirm GCHQ’s analysis.


    Linked The Guardian since I'm at my article limit for Reuters, yikes. But uh, "accidentally shot down one of their own aircraft" sounds like wishful thinking even to me - then again, it would certainly match the sheer incompetence displayed by Russia so far...
    Russians shot down an airliner by mistake before, shooting down down the wrong plane is certainly not outside the realm of possibility.
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