Russian invasion of Ukraine

[XDurionX]

I don't think he can ever lie about that shit in this situation. he's gonna get lynched or murdered if he doesn't come back home with a real victory for all the losses in human life, resources, and being cut off from the world

So I personally think he will not do that and go to the very end for said real victory

Well he's lying about everything all the time. But you're clearly not following news.

[Iphie]

are you saying Putin can still GET AWAY WITH ALL THIS and not face prosecution in front of the world for war crimes?

As sad as it is to realise, unless he's delivered in chains by the russians themselves in the Hague, Putin will NEVER be brought to justice, yes. As for getting away with it, that depends on what happens next.

[PhaelixWW]

are you saying Putin can still GET AWAY WITH ALL THIS and not face prosecution in front of the world for war crimes?

How can you possibly be this naive on international affairs and still pretend to know the inner workings of every foreign leader like their your personal fanfiction characters?

Also, how often, exactly, do you think heads of state are held accountable for their war crimes?

[Iphie]

How can you possibly be this naive on international affairs and still pretend to know the inner workings of every foreign leader like their your personal fanfiction characters?

Also, how often, exactly, do you think heads of state are held accountable for their war crimes?

I think the last I remember was Saddam, does a lynchmob count? if so then Ghaddafi? Before those I wouldn't exactly know. Ceausescu wasn't a war criminal.

[PhaelixWW]

I think the last I remember was Saddam, does a lynchmob count? if so then Ghaddafi? Before those I wouldn't exactly know. Ceausescu wasn't a war criminal.

I think it's probably Slobodan Milošević. Overthrown in 2000, arrested in 2001, and on trial from 2002 to his death in 2006.

Technically, he was never convicted, because he died, but, well... I think it still counts.

[Makabreska]

How can you possibly be this naive on international affairs and still pretend to know the inner workings of every foreign leader like their your personal fanfiction characters?

Also, how often, exactly, do you think heads of state are held accountable for their war crimes?

I think it's high time to accept that dude is simply disturbed and has genuine issues with reality perception.

[Iphie]

I think it's probably Slobodan Milošević. Overthrown in 2000, arrested in 2001, and on trial from 2002 to his death in 2006.

Technically, he was never convicted, because he died, but, well... I think it still counts.

Ah, yes, I had forgotten about him.

[Specialka]

Just watch any of the many dozens of videos of children reporting seeing things that all of us agree are things they should never ever have to see in their lives.

And they immediately go to "I hate Russia"

Not sure why Easo is... being the weird self that he is, but if you still pretend it's all bullshit and Ukrainians are basically just unruly Russians that don't know better and should really be ruled be Moscow... if you drink that entire vomit-tasting bottle of propaganda...

There's OVERWHELMING video evidence of kids developing a deep hatred for an entire nation, some of which I thought were too young to even develop either concepts in their heads. Any brotherhood that may have existed has been burned away by this war. So when Easo says things like more common with Russia than the West, it must demonstrate the simplistic black/white brainspace he's living in, cos for the life of me... apart from linguistical similarities and family bonds... there's fuck all they have in common.

And those family bonds? Yeah, when a Russian uncle tells his Ukrainian niece who just told them that not only her dad died, but also her mother, his sister, to stop calling because she's creating problems for him... dude, she's like around 10 and lost everyone in her life. Damn... fuck those family bonds, eh? Oh, btw, she hates her Russian Uncle now too.

That's the story of this war, Easo. You need to open your fucking eyes. What Russia is doing right now is the most colossal public display of "burning bridges" that any of us have ever seen. Heck, even the UK didn't do as spectacular a job with Brexit as Russia did.

Putin definitely has crossed the Rubicon. And that is why this will most likely end with a bullet in the back of his neck.

That is not what is being said. Of course, there would be generational hatred. But Ukraine culture is more akin to Russia than it is to the West. And maybe the war will push them to try to adopt our values and such but they have a long way to go.

[Verdugo]

are you saying Putin can still GET AWAY WITH ALL THIS and not face prosecution in front of the world for war crimes?

You promised us you will piss off until the nuclear war, can you please do that?

[jonnysensible]

That is not what is being said. Of course, there would be generational hatred. But Ukraine culture is more akin to Russia than it is to the West. And maybe the war will push them to try to adopt our values and such but they have a long way to go.

good to see a Phrenology expert in the thread

[Barzotti]

good to see a Phrenology expert in the thread

Oh, that's a shiny insult.

[Specialka]

good to see a Phrenology expert in the thread

It would be easy to do yours, that's for sure.

[Zaydin]

No shit. We've been saying this since about day four of the conflict. It's not a winnable situation. It was probably never a winnable situation, but at least for the first few days we didn't know how much of a paper tiger Russia was.

Even if Russia had captured Kyiv, they'd be stuck in Ukraine doing counter-insurgency, which is something it seems they can't economically sustain, which means no "nation building" and no real rewards to reap from the conquest.

It was a stupid, hasty decision. Russian intelligence and military prowess was vastly overestimated, especially by Russia itself. They can still negotiate favorable conditions for a ceasefire and withdrawal, and Putin will claim that as a success, but everyone in the world will know that it will just be consolation prize for the loser.

I remember describing the Russian military as a paper tiger several times only to get laughed at or mocked before Putler invaded. Not a whole lot of satisfaction from being right though given all the innocent people suffering.

And yeah, there was never any scenario where Russia outright 'won'. Even if they had conquered Ukraine it would have just meant that sanctions wouldn't have been removed any time soon.

[Poopymonster]

Also, railway workers find a surprising number of reason to do maintenance on tracks leading to Ukraine. Like, it's staggering how the railroad tracks to Ukraine must have been neglected for only them to fail this much. Oh well, what can you do, block the track and repair, I guess... now, where was that special tool wrench you needed for that...

Poland I'd guess. That means all those experts and workers better go off to France to try to find it. Gosh and golly that'll take some time to get to Greece.

[Zaydin]

Also, railway workers find a surprising number of reason to do maintenance on tracks leading to Ukraine. Like, it's staggering how the railroad tracks to Ukraine must have been neglected for only them to fail this much. Oh well, what can you do, block the track and repair, I guess... now, where was that special tool wrench you needed for that...

Yeah, I mentioned them too. I'd love to buy them a drink if I could. Taking risks like that when living in a dictatorship; takes a lot of courage to stand up to tyrants. More courage than the Russian people are showing against Putler.

[YUPPIE]

I remember describing the Russian military as a paper tiger several times only to get laughed at or mocked before Putler invaded..

same for when this thread started, it was rebuked as conspiracy theorist nonsense as seen in the earliest posts. Many of the initial posters laughed at the idea of Putin invading Ukraine.

And in 2020, when I said Trump would lead an assault on the capitol, people said "he would not have the balls to do that shit" and he's "bluffing."

[Daedius]

Deploying mines in civilian areas as Russia retreats

That is beyond fucking contemptible...

Russian Soldiers have killed their General due to heavy losses... hope someone puts a bullet in Putin's egotistical fat head.

[Shadowferal]

so you are outright saying he'll do whatever it takes to win

No.
He'll claim he won.

[Iphie]

"⚡️Conflict Intelligence Team: Missile hitting Belgorod Oblast came from Russia.

Observers report that the missile that fell in the village of Nikolskoye in Russia’s Belgorod Oblast on April 1 came from the country’s northeast or east, ruling out Ukraine’s involvement."

source: https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...15316491669508

Russians are Russians. So im not surprised if it's true.

So, False Flag, gross incompetence or disgruntled pilots? If true of course.

[Pannonian]

Ukraine has and will have so much more common with Russia than West, despite their recent attempts of denying it. Fight with corruption will be long and hard, more than it was anywhere else.

That can shift very quickly - take Austria - it only took 10-20 years from "we want to be part of germany" to "stupid germans". So i'd be careful about predictions like "will"