1. #14981
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    So it is being alleged that the Russians executed every male in Bucha who was between 16 and 60 years old.
    If that's remotely true - and judging by those pictures, it's easy to imagine that it is - this is truly monstrous. I agree with you, Russia needs to be demilitarized. Diplomatical faux pas aside, Biden was completely right in saying what he did about Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    So it is being alleged that the Russians executed every male in Bucha who was between 16 and 60 years old.
    They're obviously going to claim that they were "military reserves".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    So it is being alleged that the Russians executed every male in Bucha who was between 16 and 60 years old.
    If confirmed, it almost looks like Russia is trying to bait the world into jumping in.

    Either that or these Russian “Soldiers” are trying to get the rest of the world to jump in and stop them so they can go home.

    There is zero chance Russia survives if the world jumps in and their only hope would be for the world to stay out of it WHILE they do this stuff to break their spirit which is more likely to have Ukrainian suicide bombers in Russia targeting Russian leaders and the families of Russian soldiers in response than it will of actually breaking their will.

    The more Russia targets civilians, the bigger the targets they place on themselves.
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  4. #14984
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    There's a couple of things we see about the Russians after their withdrawals.

    1. The Ukrainians calling them "orcs" has been oddly fitting. Tho how a supposedly competent army ended up looking and behaving the way the Russians have been speaks volumes about just how poorly trained, ill disciplined and poorly supplied and commanded they are.

    2. It's clear they don't see themselves as "liberators" either anymore. They've given up on the pretense of being there to help. The Ukrainian resistance beat that delusion out of them by now. That's why they've been warcriming left and right.

    And note, this is how they act and the resistance they are dealing with in the supposedly pro Russian side of the country.

    I'm pretty sure by this junction the Russians would be hard pressed to find people inside Ukraine who would want to be Russian. Even among Russian speakers.
    I would rather call russians Skavens - all about numbers, no honor, no empathy, collateral damage is a norm rather than exception...They infest and corrupt everything they touch. And russian invaders being greatest cowards there is. They are rats to be exterminated from Ukrainian territory, including the ones currently occupied by russian-supported separatists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    They're obviously going to claim that they were "military reserves".
    If the allegation bears out, yeah it is pretty obvious Putler wanted to deny potential soldiers to Ukraine. Of course all he is doing is ensuring Ukraine is going to de-Russiafiy itself as best it can over the coming years and move closer to the West.

    And bodies aren't being moved until EOD techs confirm the bodies aren't booby trapped apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    I would rather call russians Skavens - all about numbers, no honor, no empathy, collateral damage is a norm rather than exception...They infest and corrupt everything they touch. And russian invaders being greatest cowards there is. They are rats to be exterminated from Ukrainian territory, including the ones currently occupied by russian-supported separatists.
    'Skaven' not 'Skavens' the word is both singular and plural. Also, Skaven have more honor than those Russians. (in their own twisted way.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    If those are gonna be the same previously talked about Czech BMP-1's and not actual tanks, I will be sorely dissapointed. Sources for actually capable tanks are basically non-existant - Poland (~200+) and a bit of Czech Republic (30 tanks). I am counting only those with actual modernization, because otherwise even Ukrainian T-64's are still better due to upgrades.

    Wrong. Ukraine does use T-72's, in limited amount (couple batallions, IIRC), with recent modernizations. Plan to arm more units with them was on the way but then war started. And it is a relatively small challenge to train/retrain crews, tanks are very similar (remember, T-72 was originally a cheaper mass mobilization version of T-64 - which is primary MBT for Ukraine).
    Sources are saying they'll be T-72s.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    I would rather call russians Skavens - all about numbers, no honor, no empathy, collateral damage is a norm rather than exception...They infest and corrupt everything they touch. And russian invaders being greatest cowards there is. They are rats to be exterminated from Ukrainian territory, including the ones currently occupied by russian-supported separatists.
    The Iron Horde wouldn't be inaccurate.

  9. #14989
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    The Iron Horde wouldn't be inaccurate.
    Well, russian equipment seems to be equally explosive! And Iron Horde treating their subject vassal states in similar brutal manner.

  10. #14990
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    So it is being alleged that the Russians executed every male in Bucha who was between 16 and 60 years old.
    Difference between Ruski terrorists and ISIS fighters? Fuck all, apart from there being more of the former.
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    Euromaidan Press tweeted:
    The Ukrainian Muslim battalion "Crimea" has found corpses of civilians near Motyzhyn in Kyiv Oblast who were shot.

    According to preliminary information, it is the family of village head Olha Sukhenko who was abducted on 23 March. Official info to follow
    I'm not going to directly link the tweet, but it contains a somewhat graphic photo of the bodies, mostly buried in sand, at least one with hands tied.

    I feel like we're going to be seeing an awful lot of this over the next week, as Russian troops retreat to the east and locations are reclaimed by Ukrainian forces.

    This is a level and concentration of war crimes that we haven't seen from a state actor in some time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Euromaidan Press tweeted:

    I'm not going to directly link the tweet, but it contains a somewhat graphic photo of the bodies, mostly buried in sand, at least one with hands tied.

    I feel like we're going to be seeing an awful lot of this over the next week, as Russian troops retreat to the east and locations are reclaimed by Ukrainian forces.

    This is a level and concentration of war crimes that we haven't seen from a state actor in some time.
    I really wish more of these tweets had the photos marked as NSFW or what not so that they were blurred or something like that. Seeing these pictures is sickening and it's just going to lead to more calls for an international intervention in Ukraine against Russia.
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    I think Russia, and by extension, China are examples of why the US and its close allies should be the only ones to hold nukes,

    If Russia didn’t have nukes, we would have invaded them and demilitarized them for all this shit. But because such a corrupt and twisted regime has them, we can’t do anything directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    If Russia didn’t have nukes, we would have invaded them and demilitarized them for all this shit.
    No, we wouldn't. We probably would have directly intervened in Ukraine, but we wouldn't have invaded Russia, even with no nukes.

    Stop fantasizing about WW3. It's disgusting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    I really wish more of these tweets had the photos marked as NSFW or what not so that they were blurred or something like that. Seeing these pictures is sickening and it's just going to lead to more calls for an international intervention in Ukraine against Russia.
    And i think people should see those photos. To see whats really happening, without sugar coating. And to see what russia really is.

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    With these atrocities coming to light, I wonder what Russia's buddies are thinking. NK won't care, but the others? I can't imagine there's not a hint of doubt in their minds now.

  17. #14997
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    With these atrocities coming to light, I wonder what Russia's buddies are thinking. NK won't care, but the others? I can't imagine there's not a hint of doubt in their minds now.
    Cue for an experiment to see whether some posters we have here are actually paid agents or human beings with real brain processing power! Or in a dream world, after seeing all this shit happening, MMO-C would take a zero tolerance stance against all forms of pro-russian propaganda posting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    And i think people should see those photos. To see whats really happening, without sugar coating. And to see what russia really is.
    I'm not saying the photos shouldn't be there. I'm just wishing they had a NSFW flag for people who can't stomach seeing the atrocities Russia is committing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    With these atrocities coming to light, I wonder what Russia's buddies are thinking. NK won't care, but the others? I can't imagine there's not a hint of doubt in their minds now.
    Let's not pretend China remotely cares about human atrocities *vaguely gestures at Uyghurs concentration camps*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    With these atrocities coming to light, I wonder what Russia's buddies are thinking. NK won't care, but the others? I can't imagine there's not a hint of doubt in their minds now.
    I don't think their allies will give a shit. Like attracts like and all that, and most 'anti-western' forces are similar breeds of deplorable.

    Though these videos and mounting evidence of somehow even worse War crimes than initially expected will put Russia into a very, very poor negotiating position when it comes to future trade agreements or sanction lifting.

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