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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    The moment Russia steps foot into a NATO country they will cease to exist and Putin knows this.
    Isn't he likely dying? And that's a probability he's doing this insane shit, not caring for the consequences?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I’ll take the infraction, but has anyone besides me tried PMing globals since Flairelane and Rozz don’t care about the obvious troll?
    Yes. But about other posters than the one you imply. Answer being that shitposters won't be banned unless they strictly break forum rules. Pro-russian propaganda is okay pretty much unless it's blatant and brutal lying (good luck finding out what exactly that means). If conspiracies are against this forum's rules, it certainly does not show.

    Oh and professional shitposters won't be banned for being that unless we somehow can literally prove they are paid agents, we need statements from Russian authorities and contracts for that

    Go figure, MMO-C doesn't really care about genocides, and it's perfectly okay to be happy about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    More than half a century? That's optimistic.
    Perhaps "close to a century" would have been more accurate, at least as it pertains to the United States; after the USSR began it immediately raised the hackles of the US. That might have dissipated a little on a national scale in World War 2 when, boy howdy turns out Germany can't be trusted and the US and USSR became temporary buds against the axis powers, but that swiftly decayed back into abject mistrust, and western media has used the Russian government or Russian gangs or Russian oligarchs as the go-to bad guy for decades upon decades as the go-to bad guy. That's basically prepped the rest of the world to fundamentally mistrust Russia's word, and as I noted they've done absolutely nothing to assuage that assumption, and have really only fed into it.

    I've always tried to separate the government from the people, but crimes like this make that REALLY hard.
    Don't get me wrong, the people committing these atrocities are absolutely responsible for them. But that doesn't mean every person in Russia is a terrible genocidal monster. I suppose one could argue their complicity in knowing these things are happening, but there are people bravely protesting, and who have been bravely protesting, in Russia against the war.

    The people protesting in Russia face far steeper risks than those protesting, say, some idiot like Trump in the United States, and don't have the benefit of "the other side" powerful political party to back them up and condemn the current leadership from a place of authority and action.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker76 View Post
    I think the Cruelty is the point. When people with authority enjoy watching their users get tormented.
    Haven’t done it in a while, but have had a few times where I intentionally got myself infracted to get access to the ban appeals section and report people in there.

    Honestly felt like they had more authority on the issues as the stuff got dealt with pretty quickly after reporting obvious offenders there.
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
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    to your ublock or adblock filter to actually ignore ignored posters. Now just need a way to ignore responses to them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Isn't he likely dying? And that's a probability he's doing this insane shit, not caring for the consequences?
    He probably suffers from something comes with the age. But, unless you are his personal physician, you really can't say shit beyond 'huh, he looks puffy/red in the face/like he has a fuckton of makeup on his face/etc. and if you ARE his personal physician it's probably not a good idea to tell us how your boss is doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    He probably suffers from something comes with the age. But, unless you are his personal physician you really can't say shit beyond 'huh, he looks puffy/red in the face/like he has a fuckton of makeup on his face/etc. and if you ARE his personal physician it's probably not a good idea to tell us how your boss is doing.
    And even if he were dying, it wouldn't automatically make him prone to wanting WW3. He has kids whom one would presume he cares somewhat about.
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    India buys Russian sunoil at record price

    India has contracted 45,000 tonnes of Russian sunflower oil at a record-high price for shipments in April as edible oil prices in the local market surged after supplies from rival Ukraine stopped, five industry officials told Reuters.

    Sunflower oil from Russia could help the world’s biggest edible oil importer in easing the shortfall at a time when availability of vegetable oils is stretched because of Indonesia’s decision to restrict palm oil supplies and lower soybean crop in South America.

    “As vessel loading is not possible in Ukraine, buyers are trying to secure supplies from Russia,” said Pradeep Chowdhry, MD of Gemini Edibles & Fats, which contracted 12,000 tonnes of Russian sunflower oil for April shipments.

    Refiners bought crude sunflower oil at a record $2,150 a tonne, including cost, insurance and freight, for April shipments, compared with $1,630 before Russia invaded Ukraine, dealers said. Buyers are paying in dollars, a dealer said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    India buys Russian sunoil at record price
    What's your point?

    Might as well continue the article:
    Indian buyers were not making purchases of Russian sunflower oil for nearly a month, but now they are placing orders as banks are opening letters of credit (LC) for the imports, said a New Delhi-based dealer with a global trading firm.

    "Indian buyers are paying in dollars. Indian insurance companies are providing cover to vessels bringing sunoil from Russia," the dealer said.

    Shipments of more than 300,000 tonnes of sunflower oil from Ukraine to India are stuck as loading at Ukrainian ports is suspended, said a Mumbai-based dealer. read more

    India imports sunoil mainly from Russia and Ukraine. It imports palm oil from Indonesia and Malaysia, whereas the bulk of soyoil is sourced from Argentina and Brazil.

    India has now been trying to increase imports of sunflower oil from Argentina, said Sandeep Bajoria, chief executive of Sunvin Group, a vegetable oil brokerage and consultancy firm.

    "Even after the imports from Russia and Argentina, there would be shortfall of sunoil. Nobody can replace Ukraine's shipments," Bajoria said.

    India consumes around 200,000 tonnes of sunflower oil but currently refiners can import around 80,000 tonnes only, the New Delhi-based dealer said.

    Consumers are forced to switch to soyoil, rapeseed oil and groundnut oil as sunflower oil supplies are limited, the dealer said.

    "Sunflower oil is very expensive. This is forcing price sensitive buyers to shift to other oils," Bajoria said.
    India is trying to move away from Russian sunflower oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    *nuremburg you mean.. the Hague is a 50's failed construction.
    Both of those are failed constructs, while some of the most notable leaders were held accountable most of the monsters got away with it a lot of them got hired by western powers who were eager to reap the rewards of their unspeakable experiments. After WWII, the immediate concern was the USSR and all their sins were forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    What's your point?
    Do you see all that raping, torture, and murder discussed on the last page and the daily news? Anyone that is still purchasing or doing business with Russia is complicit now. They are fueling their war machine.

    THAT IS A BIG DEAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    What's your point?

    Might as well continue the article:


    India is trying to move away from Russian sunflower oil.
    Russia biggest problem right now is cargo ships.

    Link to real time cargo ships tracker.

    Notice the lack of activities along the eastern edge of the Black Sea where the Russian ports are located.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    India buys Russian sunoil at record price

    India has contracted 45,000 tonnes of Russian sunflower oil at a record-high price for shipments in April as edible oil prices in the local market surged after supplies from rival Ukraine stopped, five industry officials told Reuters.

    Sunflower oil from Russia could help the world’s biggest edible oil importer in easing the shortfall at a time when availability of vegetable oils is stretched because of Indonesia’s decision to restrict palm oil supplies and lower soybean crop in South America.

    “As vessel loading is not possible in Ukraine, buyers are trying to secure supplies from Russia,” said Pradeep Chowdhry, MD of Gemini Edibles & Fats, which contracted 12,000 tonnes of Russian sunflower oil for April shipments.

    Refiners bought crude sunflower oil at a record $2,150 a tonne, including cost, insurance and freight, for April shipments, compared with $1,630 before Russia invaded Ukraine, dealers said. Buyers are paying in dollars, a dealer said.
    Again that's not because India likes Russia or dislikes Ukraine or the West, it's just because sanctions are largely a luxury for rich countries. A lot of places can't afford to be ideological in regards to economics and trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Do you see all that raping, torture, and murder discussed on the last page and the daily news? Anyone that is still purchasing or doing business with Russia is complicit now. They are fueling their war machine.

    THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
    Get over yourself.

    First of all, that article was from FIVE DAYS AGO, before the events of the last few days. Furthermore, we have no idea how long before that article was written that the purchase order was made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Yeah, but clearly they’ll just cargo in their stuff via german uboats because Putin is a Bond villain.
    Maybe dirigibles, as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Isn't he likely dying? And that's a probability he's doing this insane shit, not caring for the consequences?
    If that were the case... wouldn't he have used Nukes and Chemical weapons before it got to this point? Like, if he's as insane as you say he is, dying, and doesn't care about the consequences...why hold back at all? Level Ukraine, Launch all his Nukes at all the NATO countries, just go completely Scorched Earth on the entire planet. He's dying anyway, right? Better to burn out than fade away, right?
    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Could even use some fancy rockets launched by his partner Musk to drop the shipments from space. These Bond villains aren’t constrained by reality.
    Why do you believe that Musk is a bond villain who is partnered with Putin? Elon Musk actually wants to save Ukraine by defeating Putin in single combat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I can't believe this is a sentence someone just typed out as a serious thing.
    Hi. You must be new to MMOC.

    Welcome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I can't believe this is a sentence someone just typed out as a serious thing.
    No, he's actually not wrong. In one of 'those' days he has on twitter, Musk called out Putin challenging single combat for Ukraine. Obviously, Musk is insane, but w/e, it was worth the laugh.

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    Russia has called a meeting of the UN security council to discuss Bucha. That's going to be sickening levels of lying.

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    Maybe Musk wanted to inject a little levity by such witless wit.

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