Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Saradain]

Let me rephrase this question a bit: How would England respond to Scotland joining CSTO? How would US respond if Canada or Mexico wanted to join CSTO.

This was coming from years ago, we knew it was coming, Putin wven warned us that is was coming, but we did nothing to address it.

The only winner of this war are clearly the states.

This you?

Why have all the troops stationed in the border then, you might ask? To stop retaliation. Protected by artillery in the backlines and AA, they ensure that Ukrainian army stays inside Ukraine.

How to bring down Ukraine with no soldier stepping a single meter into their soil:
-Bomb all airports (military and not) by launching barrages of cruise missiles, to pin down enemy airforce. Current capacity from just the ships gathered in black sea, amounts a bit less than 700 kalibr in a single salvo launch.
- Commence SEAD (No defending AA has managed to stop an enemy SEAD so far in the history of mankind)
- RAF goes in and takes out key infrastructure: power grid, public buildings, and highways/railways

Chaos commences, country bankrupts in a matter of weeks, government falls etc.

As you can see Russia has the capacity of folding Ukraine in pieces, without risking casualties (at least no so many as you think)

I feel too that there will be no invasion, unless US or NATO send troops.

Also, you don't need to bomb the nuclear power plant to bring the grid down. You can bomb the substations that distribute the power across. Lastly, by bombing into submission, I didn't mean the general population. I ment the army and the industrial / economical centers. You basically bunkrupt the country in a week's worth of air raids.

The issue here can be summarized as:
Russia: Please no more NATO expansion, we're afraid.
NATO: Stfu, we will do as we please.

Keep in mind ladies and gents, that Russia has tried joining NATO in the past, and got declined in more than one occasion.

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...nuary-13-2022/

When Russia is saying the same thing about missile deployments all over their border, they are the bad guys, the aggressor, the evil ones... Where is this world heading to? Fucking brainwashed people everywhere...

History lesson for the younger folks in here: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-e...nap-story.html

NATO should stop expansion, Russia should withdraw from Ukraine and everyone is a winner.

Before you even start again, NATO is a defensive pact and it does not expand on its own. It expands specifically thanks to russian genocidal aggression it has proven time and time again.

The problem from what I am understanding, is not Ukraine, rather NATO. Russia warned yesterday, that any further expansion to the east will be met by military force.

I guess this is their red line, and they've made it clear. My guesstimate is that EU countries will hold back NATO/US, at least during the winter. If shit go south, even in the most tiny way possible, energy price will 2x / 3x in no time.

Lol, Russia thinks people should not seek friends & protection from their genociding. And this is the country you valiantly defend and speak highly of. Fucking nazi army.

I don't think it will end up to that, just because of Putin. He is the best geostrategic thinking leader the world has today, by a big margin.
I believe that the US/UK are intentionally try to drive a strong Russian reaction so they can impose more sanctions. You see, Russia if left as is, in less than two decades will be among world's largest economies, and the western (capitalist) way of living can't have that. So just like the western backed coup in Ukraine, today we're seeing an artificial crisis which aims on destabilizing, containing the Russian threat. I am pretty certain that Moscow knows and understands this, and I believe that they know how to react properly by creating a counter threat model to NATO's expansion, and not actually going to war. However, as tensions rise and military buildup continues, the margin of error shrinks dramatically.

The SAD thing is, that we are about to see a big military build up in eastern Europe, lots of nations hostile to US and Russia will get their hands in equipment that they shouldn't have (Russia just sold a shitload of weaponry to Iran, including lots of SU-35 - so there goes the stability in Middle east out of the window) and if things continue to escalate, we might see NPT treaty out of the window which will bring our planet to the saddest state since ever.

Bottom line: US/NATO should fuck off from Ukraine ASAP and halt it's expansion, Russia should remove troops from border and everyone help Ukraine to rebuild their economy and stabilize.

What a take, only Russia should have certain weapons...So they can invade innocent countries easier

Bottom line: Never post this kind of shit again, nazi sympathizer.

[Mihalik]

This was coming from years ago, we knew it was coming, Putin wven warned us that is was coming, but we did nothing to address it.

The only winner of this war are clearly the states.

Horseshit. One more fucking time for the 11th million time...NATO is a defensive alliance, that is only a threat to Russia if Russia intends to fuck with a country in it, and finally nobody is lining up willingly to join Russia's fake pantomime organizations. But countries are begging to join NATO.

Also...how does annexing Ukraine and moving Russia's border right up to NATO going to solve Russia's problem of not wanting to be next to NATO?

This has nothing to do with fucking NATO. Stop lying.

This is Russia doing empire. This is Russian's not accepting the simple existence of Ukraine. This is the Kremlin feeling entitled to dictating how 44 million Ukrainians are meant to live their lives, this is about the Kremlin feeling entitled to terrorize the whole fucking continent of Europe.

Yes, we should have addressed this earlier. We should have put hundreds of thousands of NATO troops in Ukraine, right up on the Russian border.

[Cynep]

Let me rephrase this question a bit: How would England respond to Scotland joining CSTO? How would US respond if Canada or Mexico wanted to join CSTO.

2 separate answers to that: first, CSTO did bugger all to protect Armenia from Azerbaijan, so who cares, wouldn't change anything.

Second, CSTO is not an equal of NATO. Russia is not an equal of USA. Russia is an equal of Turkey or Iran. This war is the result of Russia having illusions and refusing to accept the reality.

But you're partially right, USA is indeed the biggest winner of Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[Santti]

This has nothing to do with fucking NATO. Stop lying.

Indeed. NATO is just a convenient excuse. Just like the nazis. It's Russia grasping at whatever is available for a Casus Belli.

Russia knows this will drive countries to NATO. They aren't that stupid. They know this invasion justifies the existence of NATO. They know they will have even bigger border with NATO. They wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if they weren't okay with it.

Russia knows what NATO is and isn't.

[downnola]

NATO should accept Ukraine as a new member the moment Russian troops pull out Ukraine. Lie to get them out if need be and then sign the treaty, enough is enough.

[Saradain]

It’s weird how some people only show up when shills are banned.

And then they go instantly offline after posting some of their earlier post history

[Santti]

It’s weird how some people only show up when shills are banned.

How is that weird? The quality of the thread always takes a steep nosedive when they are posting their bullshit.

[Santti]

Yeah, Ultima popping in was a huge benefit. Maybe check what I’m saying again and attempt to see beyond the end of your nose.

I forgot how hostile you tend to get.

Ulmita is a shill.

How about you get less defensive and less cryptic with your posts?

[Rasulis]

The Russian Manufacturing Purchasing Managers Index (PMI) sharply deteriorated in March 2022, with the rate of decline after the military invasion of Ukraine accelerating to its fastest since the early stages of the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak in May 2020.

The seasonally adjusted S&P Global Russia PMI (former IHS Markit Russia PMI) posted 44.1 in March, down from 48.6 in February, and below the 50.0 no-change mark, indicating contraction.

The seasonally adjusted S&P Global Russia Services PMI Business Activity Index plummeted to 38.1 in March, down from 52.1 in February – the biggest fall since the PMI index crashed at the start of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic

Somebody probably already mentioned this. U.S. Treasury won't allow Russia to pay their bond debt using fund in U.S. bank deposits anymore.

[Poopymonster]

Indeed. NATO is just a convenient excuse. Just like the nazis. It's Russia grasping at whatever is available for a Casus Belli.

Russia knows this will drive countries to NATO. They aren't that stupid. They know this invasion justifies the existence of NATO. They know they will have even bigger border with NATO. They wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if they weren't okay with it.

Russia knows what NATO is and isn't.

I gotta wonder if Amazon will deliver to them?

[Poopymonster]

https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/09/am...deo-in-russia/

Damn, they can't even get straws to grasp at.

[Pann]

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

https://twitter.com/navalny/status/1511368941758787592

[Devonitar]

Nothing new. Moscals continue their glorious existence as the Europe's biggest lie. These will be the newest line in their playbook, and they are going to repeat it like some kind of mantra. They have been doing the same thing about pretty much entirety of their history: Holodomor, Chechnya, Ribbentrop-Molotov, the Great Terror, heck, even the name of their country.

[dextersmith]

Get fucked on the irony.

Let them get fuel from Russia.....if they can get it delivered...

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https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/09/am...deo-in-russia/

Are they for real? Trying to force streaming services to spread 20 channels of propaganda. And they wonder why everyone is withdrawing from them.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

:

Just stop pretending you feel the same
Nothing matters, we're all to blame
We've all surrendered to those we serve
We get the world we all deserve

Off Topic: I had never heard this song before...but looking at the lyrics I was like "This looks like Trent Reznor"

Then I looked up the song.

[Deus Mortis]

Remember how certain person in this thread said USA only had failed hypersonic missile tests and I linked a successful test we did last year. Well here is a shocker: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/04/p...9bbe0f20c9485f

The US successfully tested a hypersonic missile in mid-March but kept it quiet for two weeks to avoid escalating tensions with Russia as President Joe Biden was about to travel to Europe, according to a defense official familiar with the matter.

The Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC) was launched from a B-52 bomber off the west coast, the official said, in the first successful test of the Lockheed Martin version of the system. A booster engine accelerated the missile to high speed, at which point the air-breathing scramjet engine ignited and propelled the missile at hypersonic speeds of Mach 5 and above.
The official offered scant details of the missile test, only noting the missile flew above 65,000 feet and for more than 300 miles. But even at the lower end of hypersonic range -- about 3,800 miles per hour -- a flight of 300 miles is less than 5 minutes.
The test came days after Russia says it used its own hypersonic missile during its invasion of Ukraine, claiming it targeted an ammunition warehouse in western Ukraine.
US officials downplayed the significance of the Russian use of their hypersonic Kinzhal missile. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said he did not view it as "some sort of game changer" after the Russians announced the missile launch. Days later, Pentagon press secretary John Kirby said it was "hard to know what exactly the justification" was for the launch, since it targeted a stationary storage facility.

[Mihalik]

This you?

Bottom line: Never post this kind of shit again, nazi sympathizer.

By the way, just needed to say...that was absolutely surgical and academic. Well done.

[Yunru]

Daily infusion of propaganda:


It doesnt seem they are reading from a board of words tho.

[Rasulis]

Revenue from oil and gas sales in March was 302 billion rubles ($3.6 billion), or 38%, lower than Russia's finance ministry forecast on March 3.

Link to Ministry of Finance of Russia. Translated image below.

[Santti]

Daily infusion of propaganda:

Mountains of gold, the fuck? Who the hell are these people, conquistadors?