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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    You know how we were told that there was no proof Russians had been digging trenches at Chernobyl? Well, now there is. Drone footage shows trenches dug there.
    Not good, not terrible. /s

    The radiation is Western propaganda anyways. As is your radiation poisoning. Western propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    You know how we were told that there was no proof Russians had been digging trenches at Chernobyl? Well, now there is. Drone footage shows trenches dug there.
    "Those were dug afterwards by the Ukrainians and their tractors." - Lavrov, probably tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Not good, not terrible. /s

    The radiation is Western propaganda anyways. As is your radiation poisoning. Western propaganda.
    Apparently a Russian general came out and said that talk of Russian soldiers having radiation poisoning was a lie because (I kid you not) partisans fought in the area in WW2 and none of them got radiation poisoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Apparently a Russian general came out and said that talk of Russian soldiers having radiation poisoning was a lie because (I kid you not) partisans fought in the area in WW2 and none of them got radiation poisoning.
    So the fact that the Chornobyl disaster happened after World War 2 didn't occur to him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    So the fact that the Chornobyl disaster happened after World War 2 didn't occur to him?
    Who knows what goes through the minds of Russian generals. Well, besides Ukrainian bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Who knows what goes through the minds of Russian generals. Well, besides Ukrainian bullets.
    And copious amounts of vodka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Wasn’t that some fake HBO show or something?

    /s
    Some state-funded propaganda in the wake of Chernobyl coming out as a 'rebuttal' was that the meltdown at Chornobyl (No, that's not a misspelling, it's the Ukrainian spelling for the location) was due to CIA sabotage rather than a culture of corruption/incompetence within the USSR and the USSR covering up the fatal flaws in the RMBK reactor design.
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    Lulz.

    Zelensky has been asking world leaders for military vehicles, including APCs.

    The UK sends Ukraine some ambulances.


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    Waaaaaaiiiiit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Some state-funded propaganda in the wake of Chernobyl coming out as a 'rebuttal' was that the meltdown at Chornobyl (No, that's not a misspelling, it's the Ukrainian spelling for the location) was due to CIA sabotage rather than a culture of corruption/incompetence within the USSR and the USSR covering up the fatal flaws in the RMBK reactor design.
    "It's not that we were incompetent, it's that our old Cold War opponents were just so much more competent than we were that they were able to cripple and bring down part of our vital and protected infrastructure!"

    Huh. That's a take, for sure.

    Surely they'll be releasing that evidence aaaaaaaaany day now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Lulz.

    Zelensky has been asking world leaders for military vehicles, including APCs.

    The UK sends Ukraine some ambulances.


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    Waaaaaaiiiiit...

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    "It's not that we were incompetent, it's that our old Cold War opponents were just so much more competent than we were that they were able to cripple and bring down part of our vital and protected infrastructure!"

    Huh. That's a take, for sure.

    Surely they'll be releasing that evidence aaaaaaaaany day now.
    they've only had... almost 40 years to release that info
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    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    they've only had... almost 40 years to release that info
    It takes time to get all their three-headed ducks in a row; the wheels of Soviet justice run slowly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    So the fact that the Chornobyl disaster happened after World War 2 didn't occur to him?
    Russia has never been very sophisticated with their lies. It's kinda like their military performance. Just throw something out there and hope it works. I would say this is North Korea level bs, but Russia has been doing this longer than them. So it's just russia level bs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    So the fact that the Chornobyl disaster happened after World War 2 didn't occur to him?
    Russians have never been very forthcoming with their own fuck ups.

    Even back when Chernobyl happened, it took significant radiation from it being discovered outside the USSR for them to start properly acknowledging what was going on.

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    Hot damn

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...licopter_ka52/

    Shooting down a KA-52 with a anti-tank weapon like it's some Battlefield game.
    The KA-52 is russia's version of the Apache (as in their best attack heli)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Apparently a Russian general came out and said that talk of Russian soldiers having radiation poisoning was a lie because (I kid you not) partisans fought in the area in WW2 and none of them got radiation poisoning.
    russian military leaders are not really know to be the smartest around.

    In 1981 16 russian Admirals and Generals where killed in a plane crash because they filled the plane with all the shit they had bought and overloaded the plane and when the pilot told them that the plane was not save to fly like that, they told him that if he did not fly they would get him fired.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Pushkin_Tu-104_crash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torched View Post
    Hot damn

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...licopter_ka52/

    Shooting down a KA-52 with a anti-tank weapon like it's some Battlefield game.
    The KA-52 is russia's version of the Apache (as in their best attack heli)

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    russian military leaders are not really know to be the smartest around.

    In 1981 16 russian Admirals and Generals where killed in a plane crash because they filled the plane with all the shit they had bought and overloaded the plane and when the pilot told them that the plane was not save to fly like that, they told him that if he did not fly they would get him fired.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Pushkin_Tu-104_crash

    Seems they're getting creative with all the anti-tank weapons they're being sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torched View Post
    Hot damn

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...licopter_ka52/

    Shooting down a KA-52 with a anti-tank weapon like it's some Battlefield game.
    The KA-52 is russia's version of the Apache (as in their best attack heli)
    Yeah, I saw that video on Twitter and joked that Battlefield was coming to life and wondered if we would soon hear of some Ukrainian pilot with balls the size of the sun pulling off a Rendezook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torched View Post
    Hot damn

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...licopter_ka52/

    Shooting down a KA-52 with a anti-tank weapon like it's some Battlefield game.
    The KA-52 is russia's version of the Apache (as in their best attack heli)
    Admittedly I'm not an attack helicopter pilot, but hovering stationary out in the open in an active war zone does not strike me as the smartest move. To do so long enough to get taken out by an atgm is just mindboggling.

    But those stugnas are impressive pieces of kit from what I've seen of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Admittedly I'm not an attack helicopter pilot, but hovering stationary out in the open in an active war zone does not strike me as the smartest move. To do so long enough to get taken out by an atgm is just mindboggling.

    But those stugnas are impressive pieces of kit from what I've seen of them.
    They were probably not expecting AA guns in the immediate area. I mean, they'd be right, but it still didn't work out for them.

  18. #15478
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    It may have been thought that Ukraine was a “receiver of prosperous western decadence” that they thought held an untold wealth of treasure that had been handed to Ukraine by western interests.

    I’d ask the resident Russians around here if that were true or not… but they’re either banned or strangely quiet What with the revelation that Russia committed mass and heinous warcrimes against an innocent civilian population.
    As a resident Russian who isn't on pay from the Kremlin, I have no idea why anyone here would think that Ukraine is somehow rich. All I hear from Russian propaganda (my room is very poorly soundproofed against my evidently deaf neighbors) is how Ukraine is either infested with Nazis (including Azov battalion, which is apparently the entire Ukrainian military with how they are absolutely everywhere) or used by the US to fight a proxy war against Russia and pumped full of weapons, neither of which would explain such a belief. If I had to guess, it must be a breed of propaganda endemic to the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladier View Post
    As a resident Russian who isn't on pay from the Kremlin, I have no idea why anyone here would think that Ukraine is somehow rich. All I hear from Russian propaganda (my room is very poorly soundproofed against my evidently deaf neighbors) is how Ukraine is either infested with Nazis (including Azov battalion, which is apparently the entire Ukrainian military with how they are absolutely everywhere) or used by the US to fight a proxy war against Russia and pumped full of weapons, neither of which would explain such a belief. If I had to guess, it must be a breed of propaganda endemic to the military.
    I do wonder if there even is much of the Azov even left. Weren't they on the front lines of the fighting in Donbas from 2014 on? I think I read somewhere that their largest size was around 2200, but they were down to about 900 at the start of the current fighting. There may not be many left at this point.

    And I'm not sure how Russian propaganda spins this as a US proxy war, when it was started by Putin. Seems like he didn't take a lesson from War Games: "The only winning move is not to play." I mean... he accused Ukraine of being a NATO pawn to begin with, before he decided to send troops in. Like... surely any attacker at that point should expect exactly what happened. Though, of course, he almost certainly didn't expect that it would last past the first week, though, so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    I do wonder if there even is much of the Azov even left. Weren't they on the front lines of the fighting in Donbas from 2014 on? I think I read somewhere that their largest size was around 2200, but they were down to about 900 at the start of the current fighting. There may not be many left at this point.

    And I'm not sure how Russian propaganda spins this as a US proxy war, when it was started by Putin. Seems like he didn't take a lesson from War Games: "The only winning move is not to play." I mean... he accused Ukraine of being a NATO pawn to begin with, before he decided to send troops in. Like... surely any attacker at that point should expect exactly what happened. Though, of course, he almost certainly didn't expect that it would last past the first week, though, so...
    Who cares about a couple of Nazi's.
    If you realy want to combat nazi's then you need to do something about the country that's probably funding most nazi's namely Russia.

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