Russian invasion of Ukraine

[postman1782]

Who cares about a couple of Nazi's.
If you realy want to combat nazi's then you need to do something about the country that's probably funding most nazi's namely Russia.

There are probably more Nazis in the Russian Army than there is in the Ukrainian Army.

[zealo]

There are probably more Nazis in the Russian Army than there is in the Ukrainian Army.

With Russian army formations taking part in what appears to be a deliberate genocide?

Most definitely, Russia should start with itself for getting rid of their fascist infestation.

[Pannonian]

How to watch russian troop movement?

By tracking stuff they stole...

https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/s...CyidysmvkpAAAA

https://twitter.com/warmatters/statu...06211077103623

Article in german if someone is interested: https://www.derstandard.at/story/200...ete-in-belarus

[ati87]

There are probably more Nazis in the Russian Army than there is in the Ukrainian Army.

and the ones that Ukraine has probably got funded by Russia.
There are so many stories about the close relationship between (extreme) right-wing party's and Russia funding these party's that entertaining any discussion about Nazi's within Ukraine is outright being a hypocrite.

Bannon and Le Pen and dozens of more and non of these people are any friends of Jews or whatever person they don't consider white enough.

[Pannonian]

and the ones that Ukraine has probably got funded by Russia.
There are so many stories about the close relationship between (extreme) right-wing party's and Russia funding these party's that entertaining any discussion about Nazi's within Ukraine is outright being a hypocrite.

Bannon and Le Pen and dozens of more and non of these people are any friends of Jews or whatever person they don't consider white enough.

It has been their strategy for the last decade in all of europe and the US - the right wing party of Austria has a 10 year friendship contract with putins party (whatever that means), and they are/have been frequent guests of Belarus.

[ati87]

It has been their strategy for the last decade in all of europe and the US - the right wing party of Austria has a 10 year friendship contract with putins party (whatever that means), and they are/have been frequent guests of Belarus.

Well it's only 2 examples but Geert Wilders and our nazi Thierry Baudet are all fan of Putin.
Probably comes down to that Russia champions itself as pro white to these people whatever the F that means.

Most Turkish people would be considered white in the US for example, Dr Oz is born from Turkish parents and he looks turkish but in Europe he would not be considered "white" but in the US he would be considered more "white" then for example John Stamos of Full House.

[Makabreska]

Well it's only 2 examples but Geert Wilders and our nazi Thierry Baudet are all fan of Putin.
Probably comes down to that Russia champions itself as pro white to these people whatever the F that means.

They are basically attracted by his "defender of traditional western values" bullshit, so anti liberal, LGBT, gender, EU and whatnot. Same with Orthodox church on Russia.

[Poopymonster]

Russia needs to denazify Russia before claiming they're gonna do that shit for other nations. I guess that includes their emigrant community, too.

Ukraine is helping them do that.

[zorkuus]

There are probably more Nazis in the Russian Army than there is in the Ukrainian Army.

Yes, ironically neo-nazism is quite a big problem in russia. But I doubt kremlin sees it as a problem.

[Zaydin]

Yes, ironically neo-nazism is quite a big problem in russia. But I doubt kremlin sees it as a problem.

It doesn't. Putler forged alliances with Russian neo-Nazis in order to maintain his grip on power.

[zorkuus]

It doesn't. Putler forged alliances with Russian neo-Nazis in order to maintain his grip on power.

Somehow he has a pattern of forging alliances with all sorts of far-right movements. A clue?

[Arrashi]

Somehow he has a pattern of forging alliances with all sorts of far-right movements. A clue?

It was pretty well known that they are backing/funding all sorts of extermists group. And not only far-right ones. Both "conservative" christian groups and ecologist group tend to have russian ties if you look deep enough. And left-wing isnt any different either.

Russia mastered strategy of dividing others and using chaos and unrest to its adventage.

[Breccia]

or used by the US to fight a proxy war against Russia.

Has this propaganda blasting through the walls explained how the US got Ukraine to get Russia to start the war, send a hundred thousand troops, and do so poorly? Because if Russia is blaming the US for fighting a proxy war, I want the US to get credit for winning.

(No I don't, the Ukrainians deserve the credit, I just love how Russian propaganda reequires multiple conflicting viewpoints)

[Vladier]

Has this propaganda blasting through the walls explained how the US got Ukraine to get Russia to start the war, send a hundred thousand troops, and do so poorly? Because if Russia is blaming the US for fighting a proxy war, I want the US to get credit for winning.

(No I don't, the Ukrainians deserve the credit, I just love how Russian propaganda reequires multiple conflicting viewpoints)

Well, there are repeated mentions of Donbass, how there are Hunter Biden-sponsored (the laptop is mentioned, of course) American biolabs that develop anti-Russian bioweapons spread by birds (no mention of how such a weapon could be so selective, unfortunately, I would be interested in collecting such ideas for a book), nuclear weapons development in Chernobyl (although this one quietly disappeared, I guess even they realized how stupid that sounds) etc. So, they argue, we had to start this "special military operation" (although even Olga Skabeyeva, the chief irritant to my sensitive hearing, calls it "war" for short; I doubt the pundits going to get any fines or prison time for these slip-ups) in order to protect ourselves from American imperialism.

Also, funny that you mention our troops doing poorly, because that's not a thing our propaganda tells us. If you believe it, our army apparently gloriously marched to Kiev, fought some Ukro-Nazis, sat there doing nothing except set up some humanitarian corridors for people to leave the city under constant bombing (from Ukranians themselves, not the ever-merciful and noble Russian army) and then left to focus on Donbass. Bucha? Lies by Ukraine, our soldiers left days before April 1! What, the satellites show corpses laying there for weeks? Lies! Why wouldn't the inhabitants, who were definitely not held hostage in their own homes and cellars, not bury them? As far as propaganda is concerned, we are winning.

Propaganda doesn't care for consistency, it doesn't exist to explain, it exists to induce an affect, it overwhelms senses and rational mind with pure bullshit. Even I at times get a thought that maybe it is I who is mad, and not my brainwashed parents, whom I can't recognize for the people they were before they started watching the "news", and I only listen to those people on the screen. I've even started to construct a conspiracy theory that it's not just pure propaganda but also some subliminal brainwashing techniques. I have to put on some music every time the neighbors turn on the TV (the "news" programs are 15 hours every day since the start of the war, by the way), and they are elders, so their sleep cycle is inconsistent and they often get up in the middle of the night just to make me suffer.

[Corvus]

This seems a little wrong - since the start of the war, the EU has provided Ukraine with $1 billion euros in assistance. However in the same time they have sent $35 billion euros in payments to Russia for gas and oil.

[jonnysensible]

American biolabs that develop anti-Russian bioweapons spread by birds (no mention of how such a weapon could be so selective, unfortunately, I would be interested in collecting such ideas for a book).

its literally the plot from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia...ish_TV_series)

[Gorsameth]

This seems a little wrong - since the start of the war, the EU has provided Ukraine with $1 billion euros in assistance. However in the same time they have sent $35 billion euros in payments to Russia for gas and oil.

and your point is? Shockingly countries are not willing to cut off vital resources they need for basic needs like electricity and heating.
Something like 40% of the EU's oil and gas comes from Russia, as much as we may despise them for what is happening in Ukraine people enjoy basic needs.

Should the EU reduce their dependance on Russian gas and oil? yes, no one is disputing that. But you can't just magic up 140+ billion cubic meters of gas.

[Ripster42]

It was pretty well known that they are backing/funding all sorts of extermists group. And not only far-right ones. Both "conservative" christian groups and ecologist group tend to have russian ties if you look deep enough. And left-wing isnt any different either.

The greens aren't the mainstream 'left'.

[Breccia]

This seems a little wrong - since the start of the war, the EU has provided Ukraine with $1 billion euros in assistance. However in the same time they have sent $35 billion euros in payments to Russia for gas and oil.

Yep. The difference is, the 35 billion was a trade transaction for goods and/or services people use to heat their homes. The 1 billion is a gift intending to save innocent lives. My last heating bill was $400 and that in no way diminishes me giving $5 to a homeless person.

[Flarelaine]

That can shift very quickly - take Austria - it only took 10-20 years from "we want to be part of germany" to "stupid germans". So i'd be careful about predictions like "will"

And Hungary spent centuries fighting off Austria, yet there is talk that maybe could join you again.