1. #16061
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    I see no documents confirming this supposed "steamroll", and plenty of alternative versions. You are free to cling to versions that "Russia is already defeated"; but didn't you just argue that "price might be too high for Ukraine in the end"?

    There were many ways this could play out; every day narrows window of possibilities, and diplomatic solution sadly looks to be already out of the question.

    S400 is primarily anti-aircraft/anti-missile system, and i have seen no mentions of it being deployed in Ukraine as it would have very limited use there given Ukraine has no missiles for which BUKs would not be enough.

    Your humiliation will be even worse when "defeated" Russia will still roll over Ukraine.

    If it will happen, of course. Let's see how it will play out.
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  2. #16062
    Quote Originally Posted by Canpinter View Post
    You could help improve the situation tho, sabotage the government you work for in any way you can.

    Imagine how you will feel to do some good for once in your life.
    I don't think those working in troll farms are capable of empathy to feel anything about doing good.

  3. #16063
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Different countries operate differently for a lot of reasons.

    If they would actually be without support, warm clothes, and food, they would be routed across entire line. You cannot operate for a month without food and clothes.

    And their line largely held and even advanced until they retreated.
    You can when you pillaged civilian along the way like the barbarian russian are

  4. #16064
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Btw, French Gendarmes have arrived to help investigate the Russian war crimes.
    Good, i'm all for proper investigations rather then media mud-slinging.

    Btw, there are persistent rumors that some important French elements reside in remaining Mariupol defenders and that is why there were so many helicopters shot down trying to evacuate them. Some linked it with Macron firing his chief of military intelligence, and hope for surprise big enough to upset second round of elections.

    Very unlikely, obviously.

  5. #16065
    @Shalcker who is Ritter
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  6. #16066
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Btw, French Gendarmes have arrived to help investigate the Russian war crimes.
    This thread does not tend to bring a smile.

    French Gendarmes, though... I kinda grew up on those movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    You can when you pillaged civilian along the way like the barbarian russian are
    If it works to keep unit able to continue fighting then it works.

    They wouldn't be able to pillage ammo the same way however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    @Shackler who is Ritter
    You already named him, there aren't that many Ritters with this particular theory (among many other theories mentioned).

  8. #16068
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post

    You already named him, there aren't that many Ritters with this particular theory (among many other theories mentioned).
    I'm not being funny but you shouldn't be getting your information from a random pedophile who writes op-eds for Russian today (the only outlet that will openly employ a pedophile as long as he tows the editorial line).

    Where did you come across scott ritter? Grayzone? RT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    This thread does not tend to bring a smile.

    French Gendarmes, though... I kinda grew up on those movies.
    Louis de Funès and Le Gendarme de St. Tropez, I loved those as a kid.

  10. #16070
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    This thread does not tend to bring a smile.

    French Gendarmes, though... I kinda grew up on those movies.
    I can assure you that they are nothing alike the movies

  11. #16071
    China's lockdown of 23 cities & almost 200M of its citizens had a major impact on global oil demand.

    Both Brent & WTI are below $100 per barrel. Brent lost all of its Ukraine war gain.

    Officially, Russian ESPO is around $72 per barrel. Unofficially, Russian oil producers are seeing offers as low as $30 per barrel.

  12. #16072
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    -video skipped-
    What exactly are you trying to prove by linking this? That's just "events as they happened", not "what Russia actually planned".

    How do you cope with wood and sunflower oil shortages/price increases btw in Germany? And 20-50% price hikes in supermarkets last week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    I'm not being funny but you shouldn't be getting your information from a random pedophile who writes op-eds for Russian today (the only outlet that will openly employ a pedophile as long as he tows the editorial line).
    His background as USSR/Iraq US arms control inspector is quite solid; certainly better then for many others proposing military theories.

    I don't see how any convictions invalidate his years of service in US military. He himself also reiterates not taking everything he says as a gospel and thinking for yourself - it's just a theory, and it can be wrong.

    And why would "writing op-eds for RT" be net negative for me?

    Where did you come across scott ritter? Grayzone? RT?
    The Duran was probably first time i've actually seen him rather then just had his twitter thread linked; I like their style of presentation more.

    Anti-Trump Republicans like him are interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Yeah...three days...any day now? Going on three months...
    Maybe within 3 years from now?
    What Russia is trying to go with, laughable as it is, is that being humiliated for 3, 6, 12 months by having your shit pushed in by what you thought was an easy target is worth it, if what's left of your army eventually wins.

    I believe the term for this is "submissive".

    There is no salvaging Russia's military performance at this point. The fact that they've lost so many troops, vehicles, generals and morale would not be undone if they magically conquered the country in the next five minutes. No hypothetical future victory erases the war crimes what's left of their troops committed by bombing civilians and raping widows. No parade they might throw May 9 will have more views than TechnoHouse door. And even if they take a city or two, the fact that they pulled back from other cities to do it speaks almost as loud as "Russian warship, go fuck yourself". Almost.

    Russia wanted the world to take them seriously as a superpower. They have objectively failed. They can't even pay their credit card bill anymore. Everything they say from here on out is a variant of "But you have to understand--" like, somehow, there's a valid excuse they're losing against a country one-third their size with a military budget one-tenth their size, without NATO or Finland getting involved.

    Now, who's been a naughty little third-world country? *cracks whip*

    Bend over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Unofficially, Russian oil producers are seeing offers as low as $30 per barrel.
    While trying to find this, I found this.

    The EMEA Credit Derivatives Determinations Committee (CDDC), whose members include some of the world's biggest investment banks, said on Monday it had decided a "failure to pay" credit event has occurred on Swiss franc loan participation notes linked to state-owned Russian Railways.
    Putin can't even make the trains run on time.

  14. #16074
    As a professional lurker I have to say it's funny how Shillcker just cannot innovate. It spews nonsense with either no source or a source so dubious you'd expect it to claim the sky is purple, gets ridiculed, ignores the rebuttals that annihilate its claims, then gets banned for something somewhere.

    And the cycle repeats. Kudos to all of you that keep hammering it with rebuttals tho, making sure new readers aren't fooled.

    And yes, calling Shillboi 'it' is deliberate, at this point it's either a bot or just a soulless husk, nobody can be that unable to read a room and see how little their impact does.

    That's my 2022 post over with, see you next year!

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    Time to hit that economic bookmark!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vorkreist View Post
    Ah yes the fabled May. The time of wonders and miracles when russia will celebrate a great victory. Ukraine will drop dead , the west will implode and the rouble will go back to the moon faster than a gme squeeze.
    Looking forward to chuckle at some more of your attempts to cope with reality when may hits.
    A-a-a-and... rouble actually already hit pre-invasion level and even went below it. Yep, looks like direction is "to the moon".

    Strengthened so much CBR had to call emergency meeting to drop rates by 3% (from 20% to 17%) and ease up capital controls.

    Will probably have to do more rate drops/capital control weakening soon as exporter revenues roll in, "gas-for-roubles" payments drop on MICEX, and inflation stays below worst projections.

    I wouldn't be surprised if EU inflation will outpace Russian; continued months of worsening trade deficit due to energy prices certainly don't look good for EU economies.
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    In other news, probably directly related to Russia's upcoming voluntary default, the ruble fell. Again.



    Remember, the ruble is not just volatile but volatile garbage. Lenders are not accepting rubles in exchange for Russia's euro and dollar bonds, because they're worthless. And their value has yet to recover to pre-invasion status.

  17. #16077
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    sip
    I see you're back from raping women, murdering pregnant women, filling mass graves with tortured civilians to shill some more bullshit.

    Your faith in the power of your oil is... vastly misplaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Your faith in the power of your oil is... vastly misplaced.
    I don't understand why anyone would have faith in $30/barrel oil that even China won't buy. China with their enormously high standards and all.

  19. #16079
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Remember, the ruble is not just volatile but volatile garbage. Lenders are not accepting rubles in exchange for Russia's euro and dollar bonds, because they're worthless. And their value has yet to recover to pre-invasion status.
    It's also artificially propped up beyond belief.

    Were it actually freely traded, it would be worth somewhere between zero and nothing.

  20. #16080
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post

    Strengthened so much CBR had to call emergency meeting to drop rates by 3% (from 20% to 17%) and ease up capital controls.
    It's almost as if 17% is still incredibly high.

    https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/poli...ph-rub.en.html

    lel
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