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    Strengthening the rouble is akin to blowing into a balloon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    I'm quite sad about it but also see no realistic way out other then Russians winning.
    Oh there is alternative. russia losing. Which given amount of dead orcs rotting in fields and being eaten by the dogs (there is even cute video of 3 small puppies eating russian corpse) and the fact that real mobile crematories seems to be all russian vehicles is very likely.

    And thats only 47 days of your disgrace, it will only get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Screencap this and quote me when they day comes - by mid-May, they will have total control of both Donetsk, Lugansk as well and further advances in other Eastern provinces.
    We did already screencap your "Kiev will fall in 3 days". You really sure you want to go that route again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    We did already screencap your "Kiev will fall in 3 days". You really sure you want to go that route again?
    Yes.

    Make it May 15th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Actually it is the perfect time to purge as the public is too distracted to ask questions. Putin has been using this war as an opportunity to consolidate more power and purge anyone who may question him or pose a threat in the future.
    Possibly, but you also might strengthen the resolve of conspirators. I do notice it's a 100 foreign bureau agents. On the other hand from the start there have been rumours about dissent in the FSB ranks over this entire thing, so who knows.

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    Admittedly I wasn't really informed of the actual, complex reasons behind this war, other than Putin thinking everyone's out to get him. Nonetheless, if the Iraq war is commonly associated with oil, then I suppose it's fair that this war may in large part be due to oil and Gas, and Russia's economic model depending on their exportation to the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Strengthening the rouble is akin to blowing into a balloon.
    Not even sure why even use the ruble argument, considering the ruble current valuation actually proves how shit the Russian economy is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    It's a tool in CBR arsenal that does the job, why wouldn't they use it? Those foreign revenues are quite real.
    I didn't say they shouldn't use it in their degenerate situation. Its about your silly attempts to use it as a sign of economic health and stability.
    Without that you would see hyperinflation levels akin to Venezuela. That is the truth about the gloriously strong russian economy. Ruble is artificially held back from becoming toilet paper while also in reality being toilet paper already since nobody in his right mind would buy rubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    Admittedly I wasn't really informed of the actual, complex reasons behind this war, other than Putin thinking everyone's out to get him. Nonetheless, if the Iraq war is commonly associated with oil, then I suppose it's fair that this war may in large part be due to oil and Gas, and Russia's economic model depending on their exportation to the west.
    US invades for oil, Russia invaded to boost Putin's poll numbers.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    Admittedly I wasn't really informed of the actual, complex reasons behind this war, other than Putin thinking everyone's out to get him. Nonetheless, if the Iraq war is commonly associated with oil, then I suppose it's fair that this war may in large part be due to oil and Gas, and Russia's economic model depending on their exportation to the west.
    No.

    Russia is trying to regain the strategic depth they lost in 1911. This is a conventional Russian wisdom that dates back to Catherine the Great - the only way to protect their borders is to expand them.
    This will not end with this war. It's just the pilot episode for what we'll see all around Russia's periphery for the next 15-20 years.

    - - - Updated - - -

    By the way, US no longer needs ''to invade for oil''. That meme was relevant in 2005. Now US is one of the most self-sufficient and self-reliant countries in the world which is also rapidly reindustrializing. US is the best position it has been in the last 20 years and will exit this decade far, far stronger than it entered it.

    But that has been the case for 140 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    No.

    Russia is trying to regain the strategic depth they lost in 1911. This is a conventional Russian wisdom that dates back to Catherine the Great - the only way to protect their borders is to expand them.
    This will not end with this war. It's just the pilot episode for what we'll see all around Russia's periphery for the next 15-20 years.
    Can't wait to see russia invade with their spearmen and donkey-pulled carriages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Can't wait to see russia invade with their spearmen and donkey-pulled carriages.
    Ukraine is far, far more formidable than Moldova, Georgia, Poland and Baltics.

    And no, NATO here is nullified because Germany is weak and will be successfully neutralized by Russia this year. Prepare for German betrayal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    No.

    Russia is trying to regain the strategic depth they lost in 1911. This is a conventional Russian wisdom that dates back to Catherine the Great - the only way to protect their borders is to expand them.
    This will not end with this war. It's just the pilot episode for what we'll see all around Russia's periphery for the next 15-20 years.
    It has been put forward that the relatively recent discoveries of gas and oil deposits in West and East Ukraine, as well as within Ukraine's economic exclusive zone have played a part in both Russia's take over of the Crimea and the broader invasion of Ukraine, since potential investment and exploitation of those resources would dethrone Russia's place as the main source of gas for some European countries.

    Ironically, Russia's ocupation of Crimea is being slowly undermined by the shortage of water that came from Ukraine, which Russia had to deal with by investing in infrastructure to bring water from somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Ukraine is far, far more formidable than Moldova, Georgia, Poland and Baltics.

    And no, NATO here is nullified because Germany is weak and will be successfully neutralized by Russia this year. Prepare for German betrayal.
    *sniff* ah yes, thats a premium vatnik cope. Good stuff.

    I love how your narration changed from "Ukraine will be dealt with in hours" to "W-w-well actually Ukraine is a superpower". Cope harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Ukraine is far, far more formidable than Moldova, Georgia, Poland and Baltics.

    And no, NATO here is nullified because Germany is weak and will be successfully neutralized by Russia this year. Prepare for German betrayal.
    Honest question. Are you Polish, like me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Honest question. Are you Polish, like me?
    Doubt it, even korwnists arent this fanatical. If he isnt ruskie then he is most likely a serb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    In such world NATO could also retreat and drop "everyone is free to choose their alliances" pretense to prevent war from happening.
    Just a reminder to everyone, the dangerous misinformation being spread by Russia is that NATO somehow caused this war, in which Russia voluntarily and unprovoked invaded Ukraine which was not a NATO member.

    Russia is not the victim here. Russia is the aggressor. They are committing war crimes, they are murdering civilians, =they chose to do this, and are continuing to choose to do this. NATO hasn't fired a single shot or raped a single widow they created. That's Russia.

    NATO did not cause this war. That is a lie. You are lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Doubt it, even korwnists arent this demented. If he isnt ruskie then he is most likely a serb.
    I am talking about his Germany hate. It is so common among our brethren. Big bad Germany always want's to fuck us over and is to blame for everything. WW2 reparations when???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Oh there is alternative. russia losing. Which given amount of dead orcs rotting in fields and being eaten by the dogs (there is even cute video of 3 small puppies eating russian corpse) and the fact that real mobile crematories seems to be all russian vehicles is very likely.

    And thats only 47 days of your disgrace, it will only get better.
    Even if they "win" they lose, they can't hold the territory, their supply lines going in will be beastfucked, and it'll be such a complete drain of resources you'd think it was a federal contractor.

    Long as Ukraine wants to fight, they win. Longer it gets drawn out, the worse it gets for the invaders. MAYBE in summer when the offroads bake to a hard surface it could change. But would Russia have the resources, well, have the viable resources, to make the most of it? Ammo, armor, and supplies? Latest batch of fodder could be ready to go. But we've seen how well they've worked out. The Russian Soldier Reclamation Project, powered by Babushka.

    That's what it'll come down to. If the Ukraine gives up. It's been costly for both sides. It will get worse. But it's most costly for Russia. More it drags, the more costly for a glorified gas station. With the west supplying Ukraine, and (theoretically) helping them rebuild afterwards, they got a lot to fight for. Besides their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I am talking about his Germany hate. It is so common among our brethren. Big bad Germany always want's to fuck us over and is to blame for everything. WW2 reparations when???
    Eh, Germany hate in this situation is kinda deserved, they really act in selfish way. Im totally cool with them protecting their economy and such but they really push "btw we were neutral dont be mad at us russia" a little too hard.

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