Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Mazza]

No investigation of Bucha had concluded so far either; doesn't stop anyone.

If you are surprised the Russian army does not receive any benefit of doubt, you have been living under a rock.

[zorkuus]

No investigation of Bucha had concluded so far either; doesn't stop anyone.

It will be investigated by parties that are not named Russia. Suck it.
You are ofc free to hold your own deranged nazi investigations but no one will care.

[jonnysensible]

No investigation of Bucha had concluded so far either; doesn't stop anyone.

im sure everyone in bucha shot themselves in the head and buried themselves in mass graves after raping themselves

anyway when has an investigation stopped you?

mh17
syria chemical weapons
sailsbury chemical weapons
nalvany

etc

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ha-terror.html

[Saradain]

Where is that "Western pressure"?

Ukraine itself promised to investigate pow torture and killing in the talks with Russia weeks ago.

And... *crickets*.

It is almost like sudden Bucha massacre popped out and the nazi-RuSSia impressed even the worst scum of the planet. And the talks probably ended for a good reason like the said massacre and many more to come to be revealed!

Meanwhile in Russia - IT WAS THE BRITISH WHO KILLED EVERYONE IN BUCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/12/puti...-in-bucha.html

[KrayZ33]

im sure everyone in bucha shot themselves in the head and buried themselves in mass graves after raping themselves

All of that with their hands tied behind their backs btw.

[zorkuus]

It is almost like sudden Bucha massacre popped out and the nazi-RuSSia impressed even the worst scum of the planet. And the talks probably ended for a good reason like the said massacre and many more to come to be revealed!

Meanwhile in Russia - IT WAS THE BRITISH WHO KILLED EVERYONE IN BUCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/12/puti...-in-bucha.html

The tune keeps changing, as usual. The previous talking point was that nothing happened there.

[Vladier]

Can deal with that once Russia isn't occupying lots of land and doing mass killings and other atrocities towards civilians.

The good people of Russia are slowly one at a time getting jailed for protesting or leaving the country.

Speaking of the latter, does anyone know of a good way to find relatives abroad (specifically, in the Netherlands) if you only know their first name and can possibly find a photo of them? My aunt and cousin emigrated and married a long time ago and used to visit us before COVID, but no one even bothered to inquire about their new surname or where exactly in the Netherlands they live, and my brainwashed parents are no help.

[Shalcker]

The whole shift happened like over a decade ago and was absolutely stable.
Also with "storage" inputs alongside it all, yet reserves remained full almost in all those years.

No, current reserves aren't even at "all time lows" - and winter was relatively mild.

But usual winter drawdown was always followed by replenishment later when prices went down. Which they didn't now.

Why do you think that, which worked from 2010-2020+ doesn't anymore. Because of some stupid fine? That is related to North Stream 2 btw.

Several factors:

1) A lot lower-then-expected renewable output in summer. Something like 20% drop YoY if i remember correctly. Which required gas stations to draw upon gas reserves again to fill in. Consequences of "green agenda" and reliance on intermittent energy sources - gas stations are optimal for exactly those conditions.

2) Hot summer in Asia requiring more gas there

3) Some post-Covid recovery finally starting across the world

4) GazProm stopping spot sales of gas and sticking to contract deliveries to add leverage for NS2 approval (which was completed in April 2021, with GazProm share price doubling in next months). Noone can force GazProm to do spot sales - it is only bound by contracts; and European strategy was all about promoting spot sales so that market conditions supposedly force prices to be lower.

So traders seized opportunity, followed the news, and spot prices skyrocketed... and then previous contract changes meant contract price followed, there was frenzied substitution also driving up price of coal, and that culminated in driving entire Eurozone into trade deficit due to rising energy prices on everything.

That already happened before invasion. ...and then there was war on top of that.

And not at all related to Russias preparation to attack Ukraine?

No, everyone expected NS2 to be approved in the end - given that Germans didn't even firmly said "it'll be dead in case of war", preferring to "neither confirm nor deny" that instead. Noone expected EU response to be this harsh.

Especially when you consider that reservers were filled overall to like 60+% but the largest one in Germany for example (located in Rehden) which is owned by Gazprom was only filled up 10%.
Considering that these reserves work like a balloon (meaning less gas inside means less gas can go outside on a per hour basis), that is already extremely weird.

Point me out where GazProm didn't fulfil what was required from it by contract. Or where it refused to sign another long-term contract for more deliveries.

Any extra deliveries on different conditions require goodwill; and that goodwill was in short supply.

[zorkuus]

No, everyone expected NS2 to be approved in the end - given that Germans didn't even firmly said "it'll be dead in case of war", preferring to "neither confirm nor deny" that instead. Noone expected EU response to be this harsh.

Fuck that's some low IQ logic. Holy fuck you've totally lost the plot.

[Belize]

Fuck that's some low IQ logic. Holy fuck you've totally lost the plot.

"Let's fund a massive multi-billion dollar project that might not get approved" is a hell of a take....

[zorkuus]

"Let's fund a massive multi-billion dollar project that might not get approved" is a hell of a take....

No one expected russia to go on a deranged rape raid so why would anyone bring up war in the talks?

[Shalcker]

"Let's fund a massive multi-billion dollar project that might not get approved" is a hell of a take....

Germans (under Merkel) wanted it to ensure security of supply in case Ukrainian route gets closed for any reason.

Got half of it funded by European companies to go around EU legislative hurdles.

Fought against US on that matter for years.

How silly it was for Russia to assume it was actually important for new German government too. /s

[zorkuus]

Germans (under Merkel) wanted it to ensure security of supply in case Ukrainian route gets closed for any reason.

Got half of it funded by European companies to go around EU legislative hurdles.

Fought against US on that matter for years.

How silly it was for Russia to assume it was actually important for new German government too. /s

How silly germany is against rape, torture, illegal war and genocide.

[Shalcker]

How silly germany is against rape, torture, illegal war and genocide.

German building lifeline for themselves "in case of war disrupting supplies" then cutting it the moment war actually happens under next government is peak European incompetence.

[zorkuus]

German building lifeline for themselves "in case of war disrupting supplies" then cutting it the moment war actually happens under next government is peak European incompetence.

You conveniently left out the part where the war was started by the country the deal was made with, you little shithead.
Peak incompetence was to assume your genocidal war was going to be overlooked.

[KrayZ33]

No, current reserves aren't even at "all time lows" - and winter was relatively mild.

But usual winter drawdown was always followed by replenishment later when prices went down. Which they didn't now.

The reserveres were at an historic low. What are you talking about.
In January, they are usually at about 70+%
This year, they were at 30-40%.

What sources did you use? Mine are from INES
They say that the reserves Gazprom are responsible for were only filled by less than 10%... end of January, it was less than 6%.

You seem to fail to realize that this isn't about contracts, Europe wanted to buy more, which Gazprom has "but couldn't sell because they needed it themselves, lul".
Gazprom could sell, but they didn't, they could've made big bucks, but they didn't. Why?
Because they wanted North Stream 2. Or maybe they wanted Ukraine.
I'm saying they did this on purpose, just as they did empty the reserves they are in control of on purpose

This has nothing to do with Covid or some other nonsense you come up with.
Everyone knows that.
It's because they didn't want to use the pipes through Poland and Ukraine.

Especially since Putin has constantly mentioned: "Well... if you had North Stream 2... this wouldn't happen, ya know *hint* *hint*"

So don't give me that crap. We have pipelines for transit, but they stopped using them (even though there were enough requests for additional gas) and at the same time they advocate for North Stream 2. So what is it now? How would North Stream 2 even help if they don't have gas to provide?! Which is the "reason" why Europe got constantly denied additional gas?

This has nothing to do with not thinking ahead or whatever, Germany did trust Sylvanas - I mean the Warchief - I mean the Orcs - I mean Putin.
Putin however used it as a political chess piece to push through his Waagh - I mean war.

Edit: As for your fucking rant about Germany. How silly of them to include Russia in Europe so we can live in peace alongside Russia while planning shit together with you. 'Putin da backstabba' however used it to pressure EU into giving up Ukraine or rather their independence.
Yes, Germany was naive, and I'll be damned to vote for any party that has plans for anything even remotely including Russia as a "long-term-Partner".
Oh and btw. as a German myself, I can tell you it fucking *sucks* that military spending is so important for Europe right now as it's absolutely pathetic for mankind to invest in military just because some Orcs at the border can't control themselves.
When we meet the 2% NATO commitment, Germany will have the third largest military spending in the world (far ahead of GB and FR btw). That's nothing to be proud of, it's fucking pathetic and shameful. But what can you do? When your "leadership" is at Europe's border?

[Iliena]

West thinks noone but them matters; Russian "NWO" is all about proving them wrong.

Support for Western positions in UN keeps dwindling.

In term's of advanced electronics and the equipment needed to produce advanced electronics no one else matters, you do realise advanced chips work on a 7nm process (a nanometer is a one-billionth of a meter) and the atom's that need manipulating on the silicon are just 0.2nm across, so it is no small feat even copying somebody else's work, it would take years to produce the first working chips, many more to start getting good yields and cost many billions, even if you had access to the correct equipment to reverse engineer (which you don't).

So yep your NWO would look like the 1980's.

[Shalcker]

You conveniently left out the part where the war was started by the country the deal was made with, you little shithead.

Threats to supply - any threats to supply - through Ukrainian route were exactly why NS2 was built.

NS2 potential volume was intended to replace entire Ukrainian line in case of a cut.

Dropping it is Germany shooting their own foot "because it had Russian logo on top".

[zorkuus]

Why are you crying about NS 2 btw? Russian economy stronk right?

[Arrashi]

German building lifeline for themselves "in case of war disrupting supplies" then cutting it the moment war actually happens under next government is peak European incompetence.

Waaaait a moment ivan. War? Its a special operation - 15 years of gulag for you.