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    Here's what I want to know ...

    Those fucking lunatic hardliners on Russian TV calling for WW3 or a nuclear holocaust ...have they fucking lost their minds? Don't they have children? Loved ones? Or do they think they magically wouldn't be affected?

    I suspect deep down they don't mean anything they say, it's all propaganda...but the people watching that shit... Does really nobody have an "Are we the baddies?" moment listening to that insane drivel?

    You know look at their children across the room and stop and ask " What the fuck are these lunatics on about?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Here's what I want to know ...

    Those fucking lunatic hardliners on Russian TV calling for WW3 or a nuclear holocaust ...have they fucking lost their minds? Don't they have children? Loved ones? Or do they think they magically wouldn't be affected?
    They know it won't actually happen, so it's just bloviating for the purpose of ratings, a higher salary from the state, or not getting defenestrated or invited to a tea-party, take your pick.

    Public opinion isn't going to make those nukes more likely to fly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I suspect deep down they don't mean anything they say, it's all propaganda...but the people watching that shit... Does really nobody have an "Are we the baddies?" moment listening to that insane drivel?

    You know look at their children across the room and stop and ask " What the fuck are these lunatics on about?"
    And these people will say nothing or risk 15 years in jail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I refuse to believe that. And maybe that means the problem is me.
    That idea is very prevalent among their most famous writers - Tchekhov, Dostoievski. If you're familiar with their literature, what is currently happening in terms of mentality isn't surprising. Keep in mind that it was a feudal society with serfdom until 1862 officially. Well, you could argue that Russia is still a feudal society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    gerasimov is allegedly in kharkiv, cmon accurate artillery or drone strike
    This is more an indication of how badly things are going for Russia. You don't send the head of the army to micromanage a bunch of colonels and majors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    This is more an indication of how badly things are going for Russia. You don't send the head of the army to micromanage a bunch of colonels and majors.
    Especially not when there is supposed to already be one person doing that: Dvornikov. Kharkiv is also, as far as I know, in Ukrainian hands so what exactly would Gerasimov be doing there? It's not like the Russians have a foothold or a forward HQ there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Especially not when there is supposed to already be one person doing that: Dvornikov. Kharkiv is also, as far as I know, in Ukrainian hands so what exactly would Gerasimov be doing there? It's not like the Russians have a foothold or a forward HQ there.
    i should have said 'near'. but hes in the field.

    basically if ukranie push a little east of kharkiv they can ruin russian supply lines again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    That idea is very prevalent among their most famous writers - Tchekhov, Dostoievski. If you're familiar with their literature, what is currently happening in terms of mentality isn't surprising. Keep in mind that it was a feudal society with serfdom until 1862 officially. Well, you could argue that Russia is still a feudal society.
    The only dostoyevski I've read is "The Idiot" and ippolit might be the worst character I've ever seen in a book. If the people in that book are at all representative of russians at large, I hate russians. There isn't a single good person in that fucking book.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    The only dostoyevski I've read is "The Idiot" and ippolit might be the worst character I've ever seen in a book. If the people in that book are at all representative of russians at large, I hate russians. There isn't a single good person in that fucking book.
    Oh, you have way more despicable characters in his semi-autobiography, The House of the Dead.

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    So, there's a mall on fire somewhere in the east near Kazakhstan:

    https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/04/2...urns-in-ishim/


    You know, I'm starting to think these fires REALLY are the result of incompetence or faulty wiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    So, there's a mall on fire somewhere in the east near Kazakhstan:

    https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/04/2...urns-in-ishim/


    You know, I'm starting to think these fires REALLY are the result of incompetence or faulty wiring.
    That and just the fact that ever fire in Russia if getting reported on now. I'm sure there is some level of sabatoge and some incompetence but it's a big nation your going to have fires that normally don't get much attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    Oh, you have way more despicable characters in his semi-autobiography, The House of the Dead.
    Unless they're committing genocide, it's pretty hard to top ippolit. He's a check-list of unlikeable/detestable. Narcissist, who doesn't care if he infects you with a deadly disease; who gate crashes a party in an attempt to scam someone; who, after the scam succeeds, lies on a couch and pretends to die/threatens suicide (i don't remember which) so that everyone will pay attention to them and read their garbage treatise on mortality that they conveniently brought with them. Morality of a cockroach, that absolutely would commit genocide if it was within their power; not for some misguided racial purity non-sense, but solely so that people would remember him. The worst character in a menagerie of scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canpinter View Post
    That and just the fact that ever fire in Russia if getting reported on now. I'm sure there is some level of sabatoge and some incompetence but it's a big nation your going to have fires that normally don't get much attention.
    What might have been "it was Tuesday", the world is now paying attention to. Year or two ago, "A fuel depot is on fire" wouldn't be a minor blip on the radar. A chemical plant goes fwoosh? "What are the possible chemicals released into the atmosphere and their hazards" might come up. Today? "Chemical plant becomes a child of Kwhaj." What does this chemical plants produce? Is it fuel, ammo, explosives, rubber? How will this affect their war effort in the Ukraine? Anything that might be of middling interest is now being looked at under a microscope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Unless they're committing genocide, it's pretty hard to top ippolit. He's a check-list of unlikeable/detestable. Narcissist, who doesn't care if he infects you with a deadly disease; who gate crashes a party in an attempt to scam someone; who, after the scam succeeds, lies on a couch and pretends to die/threatens suicide (i don't remember which) so that everyone will pay attention to them and read their garbage treatise on mortality that they conveniently brought with them. Morality of a cockroach, that absolutely would commit genocide if it was within their power; not for some misguided racial purity non-sense, but solely so that people would remember him. The worst character in a menagerie of scum.
    Well...

    Aristov an exceptionally corrupt and perverted nobleman who acts as a spy and informer. Repelled by his depravity, Alexander Petrovich refuses to enter in to relations with him. He is a man utterly submitted to corporeality and the basest impulses, with a conscience guided only by cold calculation. Alexander Petrovich says of him that "if he wanted a drink of brandy, and could only have got it by killing some one, he would not have hesitated one moment if it was pretty certain the crime would not come out."

    Gazin, an immensely strong, violent criminal, in prison for, among other things, torturing and murdering small children. He creates a shocking and repulsive impression on everyone else. According to Alexander Petrovich: "It was less by his great height and his herculean construction, than by his enormous and deformed head, that he inspired terror."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    The only dostoyevski I've read is "The Idiot" and ippolit might be the worst character I've ever seen in a book. If the people in that book are at all representative of russians at large, I hate russians. There isn't a single good person in that fucking book.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Unless they're committing genocide, it's pretty hard to top ippolit. He's a check-list of unlikeable/detestable. Narcissist, who doesn't care if he infects you with a deadly disease; who gate crashes a party in an attempt to scam someone; who, after the scam succeeds, lies on a couch and pretends to die/threatens suicide (i don't remember which) so that everyone will pay attention to them and read their garbage treatise on mortality that they conveniently brought with them. Morality of a cockroach, that absolutely would commit genocide if it was within their power; not for some misguided racial purity non-sense, but solely so that people would remember him. The worst character in a menagerie of scum.


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    90% casualty rate (this means deserters, killed, lost sight of them, captured and so on)
    This is like realy bad for russa. If its like this all over frontline, they wont last a week anymore due to lack of sleep.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post


    90% casualty rate (this means deserters, killed, lost sight of them, captured and so on)
    This is like realy bad for russa. If its like this all over frontline, they wont last a week anymore due to lack of sleep.
    One person who I read is predicting 2-4 weeks at most.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post


    90% casualty rate (this means deserters, killed, lost sight of them, captured and so on)
    This is like realy bad for russa. If its like this all over frontline, they wont last a week anymore due to lack of sleep.
    This is kinda heavy to listen to, it really sounds like they're starting to realise their lives have just been thrown away for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    90% casualty rate (this means deserters, killed, lost sight of them, captured and so on)
    I...ninety? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    This is kinda heavy to listen to, it really sounds like they're starting to realise their lives have just been thrown away for no reason.
    On the plus side, that is the sort of atmosphere that breeds military revolts against the tyrant throwing their lives aways, hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I...ninety? Really?
    Normally a number like that would sound far fetched but with how badly Russia has done over the last two months it sounds plausible to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    On the plus side, that is the sort of atmosphere that breeds military revolts against the tyrant throwing their lives aways, hopefully.
    Maybe. Problem is, Putin threw way too few people at this. The military he kept -- presumably the average or better ones -- can handle what's left of the units that stumble back across the border. For there to be a military uprising, a decent chunk of the remaining military (troops and commanders) have to take moral/ethical offense to what has happened to their comrades. Hell, the Kremlin police can defeat the tired, exhausted 10% remnants that stumble home with no food or ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    One person who I read is predicting 2-4 weeks at most.
    So, May 9?

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