Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

This is more an indication of how badly things are going for Russia. You don't send the head of the army to micromanage a bunch of colonels and majors.

Especially not when there is supposed to already be one person doing that: Dvornikov. Kharkiv is also, as far as I know, in Ukrainian hands so what exactly would Gerasimov be doing there? It's not like the Russians have a foothold or a forward HQ there.

[jonnysensible]

Especially not when there is supposed to already be one person doing that: Dvornikov. Kharkiv is also, as far as I know, in Ukrainian hands so what exactly would Gerasimov be doing there? It's not like the Russians have a foothold or a forward HQ there.

i should have said 'near'. but hes in the field.

basically if ukranie push a little east of kharkiv they can ruin russian supply lines again

[Ripster42]

That idea is very prevalent among their most famous writers - Tchekhov, Dostoievski. If you're familiar with their literature, what is currently happening in terms of mentality isn't surprising. Keep in mind that it was a feudal society with serfdom until 1862 officially. Well, you could argue that Russia is still a feudal society.

The only dostoyevski I've read is "The Idiot" and ippolit might be the worst character I've ever seen in a book. If the people in that book are at all representative of russians at large, I hate russians. There isn't a single good person in that fucking book.

[Barzotti]

The only dostoyevski I've read is "The Idiot" and ippolit might be the worst character I've ever seen in a book. If the people in that book are at all representative of russians at large, I hate russians. There isn't a single good person in that fucking book.

Oh, you have way more despicable characters in his semi-autobiography, The House of the Dead.

[Iphie]

So, there's a mall on fire somewhere in the east near Kazakhstan:

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/04/2...urns-in-ishim/


You know, I'm starting to think these fires REALLY are the result of incompetence or faulty wiring.

[Canpinter]

So, there's a mall on fire somewhere in the east near Kazakhstan:

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/04/2...urns-in-ishim/


You know, I'm starting to think these fires REALLY are the result of incompetence or faulty wiring.

That and just the fact that ever fire in Russia if getting reported on now. I'm sure there is some level of sabatoge and some incompetence but it's a big nation your going to have fires that normally don't get much attention.

[Ripster42]

Oh, you have way more despicable characters in his semi-autobiography, The House of the Dead.

Unless they're committing genocide, it's pretty hard to top ippolit. He's a check-list of unlikeable/detestable. Narcissist, who doesn't care if he infects you with a deadly disease; who gate crashes a party in an attempt to scam someone; who, after the scam succeeds, lies on a couch and pretends to die/threatens suicide (i don't remember which) so that everyone will pay attention to them and read their garbage treatise on mortality that they conveniently brought with them. Morality of a cockroach, that absolutely would commit genocide if it was within their power; not for some misguided racial purity non-sense, but solely so that people would remember him. The worst character in a menagerie of scum.

[Poopymonster]

That and just the fact that ever fire in Russia if getting reported on now. I'm sure there is some level of sabatoge and some incompetence but it's a big nation your going to have fires that normally don't get much attention.

What might have been "it was Tuesday", the world is now paying attention to. Year or two ago, "A fuel depot is on fire" wouldn't be a minor blip on the radar. A chemical plant goes fwoosh? "What are the possible chemicals released into the atmosphere and their hazards" might come up. Today? "Chemical plant becomes a child of Kwhaj." What does this chemical plants produce? Is it fuel, ammo, explosives, rubber? How will this affect their war effort in the Ukraine? Anything that might be of middling interest is now being looked at under a microscope.

[Barzotti]

Unless they're committing genocide, it's pretty hard to top ippolit. He's a check-list of unlikeable/detestable. Narcissist, who doesn't care if he infects you with a deadly disease; who gate crashes a party in an attempt to scam someone; who, after the scam succeeds, lies on a couch and pretends to die/threatens suicide (i don't remember which) so that everyone will pay attention to them and read their garbage treatise on mortality that they conveniently brought with them. Morality of a cockroach, that absolutely would commit genocide if it was within their power; not for some misguided racial purity non-sense, but solely so that people would remember him. The worst character in a menagerie of scum.

Well...

Aristov an exceptionally corrupt and perverted nobleman who acts as a spy and informer. Repelled by his depravity, Alexander Petrovich refuses to enter in to relations with him. He is a man utterly submitted to corporeality and the basest impulses, with a conscience guided only by cold calculation. Alexander Petrovich says of him that "if he wanted a drink of brandy, and could only have got it by killing some one, he would not have hesitated one moment if it was pretty certain the crime would not come out."

Gazin, an immensely strong, violent criminal, in prison for, among other things, torturing and murdering small children. He creates a shocking and repulsive impression on everyone else. According to Alexander Petrovich: "It was less by his great height and his herculean construction, than by his enormous and deformed head, that he inspired terror."

[Finlandia WOAT]

The only dostoyevski I've read is "The Idiot" and ippolit might be the worst character I've ever seen in a book. If the people in that book are at all representative of russians at large, I hate russians. There isn't a single good person in that fucking book.

Unless they're committing genocide, it's pretty hard to top ippolit. He's a check-list of unlikeable/detestable. Narcissist, who doesn't care if he infects you with a deadly disease; who gate crashes a party in an attempt to scam someone; who, after the scam succeeds, lies on a couch and pretends to die/threatens suicide (i don't remember which) so that everyone will pay attention to them and read their garbage treatise on mortality that they conveniently brought with them. Morality of a cockroach, that absolutely would commit genocide if it was within their power; not for some misguided racial purity non-sense, but solely so that people would remember him. The worst character in a menagerie of scum.

Dostoevsky had the hatred of the secular anti-Tsar socialist intellectual diletante found only in the converted

[Yunru]

90% casualty rate (this means deserters, killed, lost sight of them, captured and so on)
This is like realy bad for russa. If its like this all over frontline, they wont last a week anymore due to lack of sleep.

[Kallisto]

90% casualty rate (this means deserters, killed, lost sight of them, captured and so on)
This is like realy bad for russa. If its like this all over frontline, they wont last a week anymore due to lack of sleep.

One person who I read is predicting 2-4 weeks at most.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

[Iphie]

90% casualty rate (this means deserters, killed, lost sight of them, captured and so on)
This is like realy bad for russa. If its like this all over frontline, they wont last a week anymore due to lack of sleep.

This is kinda heavy to listen to, it really sounds like they're starting to realise their lives have just been thrown away for no reason.

[Breccia]

90% casualty rate (this means deserters, killed, lost sight of them, captured and so on)

I...ninety? Really?

[Zaydin]

This is kinda heavy to listen to, it really sounds like they're starting to realise their lives have just been thrown away for no reason.

On the plus side, that is the sort of atmosphere that breeds military revolts against the tyrant throwing their lives aways, hopefully.

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I...ninety? Really?

Normally a number like that would sound far fetched but with how badly Russia has done over the last two months it sounds plausible to me.

[Breccia]

On the plus side, that is the sort of atmosphere that breeds military revolts against the tyrant throwing their lives aways, hopefully.

Maybe. Problem is, Putin threw way too few people at this. The military he kept -- presumably the average or better ones -- can handle what's left of the units that stumble back across the border. For there to be a military uprising, a decent chunk of the remaining military (troops and commanders) have to take moral/ethical offense to what has happened to their comrades. Hell, the Kremlin police can defeat the tired, exhausted 10% remnants that stumble home with no food or ammo.

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One person who I read is predicting 2-4 weeks at most.

So, May 9?

[zorkuus]

Maybe. Problem is, Putin threw way too few people at this. The military he kept -- presumably the average or better ones -- can handle what's left of the units that stumble back across the border. For there to be a military uprising, a decent chunk of the remaining military (troops and commanders) have to take moral/ethical offense to what has happened to their comrades. Hell, the Kremlin police can defeat the tired, exhausted 10% remnants that stumble home with no food or ammo.

Putin has this covered. The rumor is he will declare an official war on Ukraine on may 9th, allowing for full mobilization. The morons will probably enthutiastically rally behind the war (at first anyway).

[Iphie]

I...ninety? Really?

Mind you, that's that particular unit, but consider this, Russia started with 130 BTG's in Ukraine, they have currently 92 active the rest are presumed eliminated from the war. It's not 90% but it's horrendous.

Maybe. Problem is, Putin threw way too few people at this. The military he kept -- presumably the average or better ones -- can handle what's left of the units that stumble back across the border. For there to be a military uprising, a decent chunk of the remaining military (troops and commanders) have to take moral/ethical offense to what has happened to their comrades. Hell, the Kremlin police can defeat the tired, exhausted 10% remnants that stumble home with no food or ammo.

He didn't keep too much behind, there's rosvigardya, but they aren't really equipped for this.

[Breccia]

The rumor is he will declare an official war on Ukraine on may 9th

Wow, that's, like, the opposite of the rumors I'd seen discussed here so far. He was supposed to say the war was over by May 9.

(sighs)

Fine, whatever. Ukraine, if you make it to May 9 and Putin has to officially declare war and fully mobilize to defeat you, you just showed the world how little of a super-power they really are. You pulled a total Broxigar and wounded Sargeras on his own turf.

Yeah, I know, you'll have a really accurate tombstone.

[Iphie]

Wow, that's, like, the opposite of the rumors I'd seen discussed here so far. He was supposed to say the war was over by May 9.

First time I hear of the rumour he will declare war the 9th, but we'll see, next week will be crucial, if the Russians lose ground then I don't know how feasible it is to declare war.. According to the brits the russians are making progress, but, as usual, not at the pace they want. Ukraine says they are paying a horrendous price for their advance.

And then there's what Putin himself says, he hopes that negotiations will have a positive outcome...I suppose we can discount the last as there's no reason to assume this is true, though Lavrov said something similar.