1. #18541
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    If Russia’s goal was to establish a tighter fuel hegemony to prevent alternate sources from threatening their economy I’d say that plan blew up spectacularly.
    On that note, diesel export from the Middle East to Europe in April are expected to more than double to 379,000 barrels a day (bpd), offsetting an expected loss of 166,000 bpd of Russian diesel supply. Diesel export out of Primorsk, Russia’s key fuel shipments port on the Baltic Sea, is anticipated to slump by as much as 30 percent in May.

    That being said, Russia is still earning $66B from their energy since February 24. Germany alone accounts for $9.1B.
    Last edited by Rasulis; 2022-04-28 at 10:06 PM.

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    Remember when Russia tried to get everyone to believe that oil prices would reach $300 a barrel?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    In the russian mentality everything you have, including your life, ultimate belongs to the Tsar.
    I refuse to believe that. And maybe that means the problem is me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I refuse to believe that. And maybe that means the problem is me.
    Western people will never understand russians which is why i think west is having such a problem dealing with current situation.

    You kinda need to understand that "good russians" as some people like to call them are statistic error minority. Vast majority of them simply lack any form of empathy for anyone, often times even for themselves. They are being trained from small child to not think for themselves and blindly accept everything they are told.

    This is why, even if they KNOW something will have bad consequences or is objectively wrong they will simply approach it with dead-eyed fatalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I refuse to believe that. And maybe that means the problem is me.
    It's really easy to believe. Everything I have, am, and will be belongs to the Tsar. Now, swap Tsar with deity. Whole civilizations are built on the concept. Their "owner" just happens to be a person you can see. Like Jonestown or Waco. Or Trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Western people will never understand russians which is why i think west is having such a problem dealing with current situation.

    You kinda need to understand that "good russians" as some people like to call them are statistic error minority. Vast majority of them simply lack any form of empathy for anyone, often times even for themselves. They are being trained from small child to not think for themselves and blindly accept everything they are told.

    This is why, even if they KNOW something will have bad consequences or is objectively wrong they will simply approach it with dead-eyed fatalism.
    Nihilism is very Russian, da.



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  7. #18547
    Russia fired missiles at Kyiv while the UN chief was visiting. One landed near the hotel he was staying at.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Russia fired missiles at Kyiv while the UN chief was visiting. One landed near the hotel he was staying at.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share
    Sounds like the perfect time to kick the ruskies out of the UN. Any other bad faith actor states start yapping their mouths about it... kick them out too. We should just stop "playing by the rules" with these people.

  9. #18549
    gerasimov is allegedly in kharkiv, cmon accurate artillery or drone strike

  10. #18550
    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Sounds like the perfect time to kick the ruskies out of the UN. Any other bad faith actor states start yapping their mouths about it... kick them out too. We should just stop "playing by the rules" with these people.
    Aside from things like disaster relief and food aid, talking shit about countries that are in the UN is about all the UN is good for. Kicking them out altogether serves no purpose.

  11. #18551
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Aside from things like disaster relief and food aid, talking shit about countries that are in the UN is about all the UN is good for. Kicking them out altogether serves no purpose.
    What purpose does it serve to keep them in? All they do is abuse the rules and then probably laugh behind our backs that we allow it.
    Bad faith actors sit in bodies like this just so they can block investigations into their human right abuses and so on.
    It's time we stop playing nice with them.
    Last edited by zorkuus; 2022-04-29 at 03:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    What purpose does it serve to keep them in?
    Like I said, it lets you talk shit to their face in front of everyone. That's all the UN is good for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    What purpose does it serve to keep them in? All they do is abuse the rules and then probably laugh behind our backs that we allow it.
    Bad faith actors sit in bodies like this just so they can block investigations into their human right abuses and so on.
    It's time we stop playing nice with them.
    Because the main reason any of the big 5 keep the UN is international prestige and the means to use it to influence the rest of the world. It's never been about the XYZs that they claim it is. It's why countries that are just as bad, if not worse than Russia are able to get into places like the human rights council and others at the behest of the UK and the USA. That way these countries might be run by child-killing bastards, but they're western aligned child-killing bastards.

    Without the UN there's no real show and dance and it makes behind the scenes dealing a little more difficult.

    At no point is any foreign policy about who is morally right (Don't get me wrong here, in Ukraine, Russia is the morally reprehensible side with Ukraine the victim and the west taking the morally right side). It's all about power and the UN is just another part of the poker game everyone plays and cheats in. Which is why it stays and allows the worst of the worst in certain areas because USA and Russia both benefit from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    What purpose does it serve to keep them in? All they do is abuse the rules and then probably laugh behind our backs that we allow it.
    Bad faith actors sit in bodies like this just so they can block investigations into their human right abuses and so on.
    It's time we stop playing nice with them.
    If they are out then they are properly out of control.

    Think of it as another diplomatic channel.
    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    gerasimov is allegedly in kharkiv, cmon accurate artillery or drone strike
    I'm not sure that's a hot idea since he holds one of the three main keys for big weapons, and his replacement would absolutely be a Putin toadie...more so than Gerasimov is. If it was Aleksandr Dvornikov I'd say crater him.

    edit: kinda better the devils you know and don't trust than the devils you don't know and don't trust.
    Last edited by Iphie; 2022-04-29 at 04:56 AM.

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    Here's what I want to know ...

    Those fucking lunatic hardliners on Russian TV calling for WW3 or a nuclear holocaust ...have they fucking lost their minds? Don't they have children? Loved ones? Or do they think they magically wouldn't be affected?

    I suspect deep down they don't mean anything they say, it's all propaganda...but the people watching that shit... Does really nobody have an "Are we the baddies?" moment listening to that insane drivel?

    You know look at their children across the room and stop and ask " What the fuck are these lunatics on about?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Here's what I want to know ...

    Those fucking lunatic hardliners on Russian TV calling for WW3 or a nuclear holocaust ...have they fucking lost their minds? Don't they have children? Loved ones? Or do they think they magically wouldn't be affected?
    They know it won't actually happen, so it's just bloviating for the purpose of ratings, a higher salary from the state, or not getting defenestrated or invited to a tea-party, take your pick.

    Public opinion isn't going to make those nukes more likely to fly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I suspect deep down they don't mean anything they say, it's all propaganda...but the people watching that shit... Does really nobody have an "Are we the baddies?" moment listening to that insane drivel?

    You know look at their children across the room and stop and ask " What the fuck are these lunatics on about?"
    And these people will say nothing or risk 15 years in jail.


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  18. #18558
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I refuse to believe that. And maybe that means the problem is me.
    That idea is very prevalent among their most famous writers - Tchekhov, Dostoievski. If you're familiar with their literature, what is currently happening in terms of mentality isn't surprising. Keep in mind that it was a feudal society with serfdom until 1862 officially. Well, you could argue that Russia is still a feudal society.
    Last edited by Barzotti; 2022-04-29 at 06:03 AM.

  19. #18559
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    gerasimov is allegedly in kharkiv, cmon accurate artillery or drone strike
    This is more an indication of how badly things are going for Russia. You don't send the head of the army to micromanage a bunch of colonels and majors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    This is more an indication of how badly things are going for Russia. You don't send the head of the army to micromanage a bunch of colonels and majors.
    Especially not when there is supposed to already be one person doing that: Dvornikov. Kharkiv is also, as far as I know, in Ukrainian hands so what exactly would Gerasimov be doing there? It's not like the Russians have a foothold or a forward HQ there.

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