Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Flarelaine]

Taiwan would be MUCH harder to reinforce. And I bet China will go for it in next 2 decades or so.

Taiwan is also protected by sea, so the invasion itself would consist of much more than sending tanks over the plain.

[Belize]

Taiwan is also protected by sea, so the invasion itself would consist of much more than sending tanks over the plain.

I bet if it was Russia invading Taiwan, they'd still manage to get half their vehicles stuck in the mud during transit

[ABEEnr2]

Pretty sure China army is superior to Russian. But they are still not really tested. And that place is an island.

The thing is Russian equipment have been tested in Syria, Georgia and etc. China have not really tested it's equipment anywhere. Also China's navy isn't top notch

[Makabreska]

The thing is Russian equipment have been tested in Syria, Georgia and etc. China have not really tested it's equipment anywhere. Also China's navy isn't top notch

But is their army as incompetent and corrupt as Russian?

Damn conundrum. Taiwan is so much harder to invade, but so much more valuable.

[Belize]

But is their army as incompetent and corrupt as Russian?

Damn conundrum. Taiwan is so much harder to invade, but so much more valuable.

It's worthless if they have to Mariupol it.

[Flarelaine]

But is their army as incompetent and corrupt as Russian?

Not really relevant to the present day, but an interesting parallel: The first time China lost Taiwan, they lost it in a war with Japan. They thought their big fleet of modern warships will easily take down Japan's small fleet of modern warships.

Guess what.

It turned out Japan's sailors were well-trained, disciplined and motivated. Also, and here is the comparison to the present war, China's equipment and ordnance mostly existed on paper. The ships themselves and the cannons were there, but just don't ask about fuel. Or gunpowder. Or the crew's payroll.

And 10 years later, Russia still thought Japan would be easy to take down with their big fleet of modern warships...

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

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[PhaelixWW]

Maybe that's an indicator that you require more moderators.

It's really not, though.

[jonnysensible]

Maybe that's an indicator that you require more moderators.

they need to demand wages first

[Finlandia WOAT]

DNR is mobilizing all its males as cannon fodder, to the point they're grabbing people off the street. I've seen claims that men of fighting age are afraid to leave their homes less they get press Ganged.

"Saved by Russia". /spit

[Forogil]

And finally, we have confirmation Russia will declare war on May 9.

"Hey, that article says Russia denies this!"

Like I said, confirmation. Russia has lied about everything else, why would this be different?

I'm still skeptical that they will do it, despite Russia denying it - as it would shatter the lie of the "special military operation", and it is unclear if it would help much.

Interestingly Lukashenko in Belarus wants the war to end and says "I am not immersed in this problem enough to say whether it goes according to plan, like the Russians say, or like I feel it.

"I want to stress one more time: I feel like this operation has dragged on."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61339742

[Mihalik]

Imagine being so fucking dumb you tag the house of the civilians you steal from with your social media handle.

He sure showed that girl's room who's boss!

[Jastall]

Taiwan would be MUCH harder to reinforce. And I bet China will go for it in next 2 decades or so.

But also far, far harder to invade. You need an almost impeccable logistical situation to seize an island that is ready to meet you. There's a reason the Nazis didn't even seriously consider Sea Lion despite having an army magnitudes stronger than the British's.

Sure, China could instead pound the place with airstrikes for who knows how long. But that's 1) unclear how much it'll actually soften them up and 2) kinda pointless given that China doesn't want the place ruined, it wants it back, and Taiwan holds some of the most vital industry in the world that you really don't want to turn into scrap.

[jonnysensible]

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...02979619311618

lol even newsmax isnt this bad.

The geezer who was talking about nuking the UK is on holiday in dubai. Russian elites talk a good game but give the cant stand actually having to be in Russia.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...02979619311618

lol even newsmax isnt this bad.

The geezer who was talking about nuking the UK is on holiday in dubai. Russian elites talk a good game but give the cant stand actually having to be in Russia.

Shades indoors? Does he think he's Kim Jong Un or Jack Nicholson?

[Rasulis]

Taiwan is also much harder to invade than Ukraine. It doesn't share hundreds of miles of land boarders with hostile nations.

In addition to the Taiwan Strait and limited access beach heads, there are other major differences between Ukraine and Taiwan.

Ukraine has limited surface-to-air capabilities - stinger and Soviet-era S-300. Taiwan currently operates 6 battalions of PAC-3 (MIM-104F) with total missile numbers 384, 3 battalions of PAC-2/GEM (MIM-104D) with about 200 missiles, and another 300 PAC-3 MSE in its arsenal. So, between 800 - 900 U.S. Patriot missiles. Taiwan also has 14 battalions of domestically manufactured Sky Bow. Numbers are unknown.

In an effort to keep from pissing off the Chinese, Taiwan used to limit the composition of their missiles to anti-ship and short-range ballistic missiles. Not anymore. Hsiung Feng IIE (in service since 2011) has max range of 1,200 km. Well within the striking range of every single southern China major cities which include Shanghai. The Yun Feng with 2,000 km range adds the cities of central and western China including Beijing.

For sure it won’t be pretty.

[Corvus]

Despite denying mobilisation will happen, apparently a lot of jobs for 'mobilisation experts' are appearing on online job portals in Russia.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinRoth...77544791322624

[PhaelixWW]

Despite denying mobilisation will happen, apparently a lot of jobs for 'mobilisation experts' are appearing on online job portals in Russia.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinRoth...77544791322624

They didn't deny that it will happen. They denied that it will happen to coincide with May 9th.

[Collegeguy]

Also:

https://prnt.sc/MyTNMUSCT8Dr

Another deleted post by @Shalcker making outright propaganda claims, no russians in Kiev my ass.

At least there is clear proof of Schalcker's lies. His trolling is on another level, it's hard to believe he is not a paid farm agent.

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But is their army as incompetent and corrupt as Russian?

Damn conundrum. Taiwan is so much harder to invade, but so much more valuable.

West really can't stand by if Taiwan is taken. Everyone would feel the impact in some manner. China imports the majority of its food and energy. They would not be able to survive a month of heavy sanctions.

[qwerty123456]

How has the person you’re replying to not been permanently banned yet? Does he just drive traffic so MMO-C is okay with it?

At best if he is perma banned he gets fired, gets a job farming turnips, and Russia gives up trying to spread misinformation on the website. At worst you now sent another dude to the front line to rape and murder across the Ukrainian countryside as he sends toilets back home and Russia just puts someone else on the site that is actually good at the job and now you got more people siding with Russia.