Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Mihalik]

Two Neptune Missiles Should Not Have Been Able to Sink The Moskva



What went wrong? The Russians are not talking.

There are various factors. The interception is reliant on the notion that the Russians actually detected the missiles and have done so in time.

Here's a navy guy/specialist in surface warfare explains why he thinks the Russians likely never detected the missiles or didn't detect them on time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaiV...ersPuckNielsen

Second, we don't actually know how many missiles the Ukrainians launched nor how many hit, could have been one or both. Where it hits is also a crapshoot. There are countless stories of naval vessels in WW2 getting bombed into hell and back until they were basically floating swiss cheese and still staying afloat and stories of ships that got hit by 1 lucky bomb/torpedo and exploded catastrophically. Warships are loaded with fuel and munitions. Especially the Slava class had it's whole upper deck covered with missile tubes.

Third, there are other questions about the overall maintenance state of the whole ship. Were all the damage control systems in working order? Was the crew actually at battle stations or at least in combat alert? Based on pre-sinking observations on the state of the ship, all that is quite questionable.

[Breccia]

Putin 'has recognized he has no victory to celebrate,' US ambassador to UN says

In the first reaction from a Biden administration official to Putin's speech, Thomas-Greenfield noted to CNN that Putin did not use his remarks to announce a withdrawal from Ukraine -- which would have been welcomed by the United States -- which signals that Putin's war will continue.

"There was no reason for (Putin) to either declare victory or declare a war that he has already been carrying on for more than two months," Thomas-Greenfield said.

"His efforts in Ukraine have not succeeded," she added. "He was not able to go into Ukraine and bring them to their knees in a few days and have them surrender."

In a separate interview on CNN's "Connect the World" Monday, US Ambassador to NATO Julianne Smith said Putin's speech "wasn't that surprising" and "completely detached from reality."

"It's sad that on this day, on Victory Day, that he's celebrating aggression and oppression at the same time," she added.

Although Putin did not announce the speculated escalation plans, Thomas-Greenfield noted that the "the conflict is not over, for sure."

"He didn't announce a withdrawal. He didn't announce a deal with the Ukrainians," she told CNN. "So I suspect and we all assess that this could be a long-term conflict that could carry on for additional months."

Moreover, it would be too strong to say the United States "welcomed" Putin's remarks on Monday, Thomas-Greenfield told CNN, because the "unconscionable war on the Ukrainian people" continues.

"So what we would see as a positive sign is for Putin to pull his troops out of Ukraine and bring this unconscionable war to an end," she said.

Thomas-Greenfield, who was in Brussels for a major conference to support Syria, said Moscow's appointment of the "Butcher of Syria" Alexander Dvornikov to command Russia's offensive in Ukraine is "just another example of Russian brutality, Russia's lack of consciousness about humanity, the human rights violations and atrocities that they have committed and they are prepared to continue to carry out in Ukraine."

"It just shows to the world that there are no limits, as far as the Russians are concerned, to their willingness to use every single tool to bring the Ukrainian people down," she told CNN.

It's interesting how many things this high-level expert said, that we've said on this channel.

[Logwyn]

Russia cheating at sports - I'm in complete shock!

However, there were no western countries present so it's more that Russian modified Kia Soul won over Kazakhstani unmodified Kia Soul, and saying that it's better than F-150 that didn't compete.

I agree with you on the comparison.

[Corvus]

At the same time as Russia was celebrating 'victory' day, they went passed the 3500 confirmed heavy equipment losses. Tanks alone are now a day or two away from 650 lost. They are loosing 50 units of heavy equipment every single day that we know of. All this is taking place before Ukraine gets its western supplied artillery into action, and that stuff is far better than the Russian stuff - longer ranged, faster firing, more accurate. Going over onto the defence won't help with that as for as long as Ukraine is provided with western ammunition, they can just rain hell down on the Russians. Russia can't sustain loses like that for 2-3 years. Even for a year that would mean 18,000 units of heavy equipment lost.

Speaking of Ukrainian artillery, the system they are using is just fucking nuts. Its basically an uber style software package that draws in data from all over and assigns a gun to a target. Gun fires then scoots, reducing risk to the Ukrainians and leaving the Russians nothing to shoot back at. And from the time of the request to the time of someone firing is only 30 seconds. Far, far faster than even currently the US can do.

[kaid]

Two Neptune Missiles Should Not Have Been Able to Sink The Moskva



What went wrong? The Russians are not talking.

From what we could see on the few images we have it looked like the fire had spread pretty far through the ship which makes it likely the hatches probably were not closed for battle stations. Depending what got hit if those doors were not closed already getting them closed after the fact was probably not happening so the fire could spread farther and farther. Once the ship was abandoned with an active fire on board pretty much all it needed was time to cook off more and more ammo until it sank.

[Corvus]

You know, we haven't seen cope cages on Russian tanks for some time now. Either they have realised they don't work or they haven't had time to install on replacement tanks.

[Poopymonster]

At the same time as Russia was celebrating 'victory' day, they went passed the 3500 confirmed heavy equipment losses. Tanks alone are now a day or two away from 650 lost. They are loosing 50 units of heavy equipment every single day that we know of. All this is taking place before Ukraine gets its western supplied artillery into action, and that stuff is far better than the Russian stuff - longer ranged, faster firing, more accurate. Going over onto the defence won't help with that as for as long as Ukraine is provided with western ammunition, they can just rain hell down on the Russians. Russia can't sustain loses like that for 2-3 years. Even for a year that would mean 18,000 units of heavy equipment lost.

Speaking of Ukrainian artillery, the system they are using is just fucking nuts. Its basically an uber style software package that draws in data from all over and assigns a gun to a target. Gun fires then scoots, reducing risk to the Ukrainians and leaving the Russians nothing to shoot back at. And from the time of the request to the time of someone firing is only 30 seconds. Far, far faster than even currently the US can do.

Possibly it is US tech, just untested, still needing refinement, and "Let's see if this will actually work as intended, it won't get any of our soldiers killed".

[Corvus]

Possibly it is US tech, just untested, still needing refinement, and "Let's see if this will actually work as intended, it won't get any of our soldiers killed".

Nope, seems to be Ukrainian designed. The thread does say the US system gets held up by JAG officers having to sign off on it first, but it is still slower than the Ukrainian one even without that.

[Flarelaine]

Possibly it is US tech, just untested, still needing refinement, and "Let's see if this will actually work as intended, it won't get any of our soldiers killed".

The West in general and the US specifically has a lot more money to throw at R&D. However, Eastern Europe has a generations-long history of having to do with less and coming up with creative solutions to make more of available tech. I can very much believe Ukraine (who always had a robust defense industry and a strong IT sector) came up with a better system. Especially as their primary motivator is self-defense, not milking Congress.

[Yunru]

NSFW;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7gJPqn2b-c

Man drones can be a bitch.

[Crispin]

Nope, seems to be Ukrainian designed. The thread does say the US system gets held up by JAG officers having to sign off on it first, but it is still slower than the Ukrainian one even without that.

I have zero expertise on the subject, but there are several replies to that twitter post, that questions his expertise on the subject.

[Rasulis]

Downed Russian fighter jets are being found with basic GPS 'taped to the dashboards,' UK defense minister says

No freaking way.

[Edge-]

Downed Russian fighter jets are being found with basic GPS 'taped to the dashboards,' UK defense minister says

No freaking way.

"Garmin: The preferred civilian GPS solution for the Russian Air Force."

[Breccia]

No freaking way.

Are...are basic GPS units capable of keeping up with what one assumes would be a high-speed aircraft?

[Edge-]

Are...are basic GPS units capable of keeping up with what one assumes would be a high-speed aircraft?

I believe it yields higher accuracy than, "Ivan, just look out the cockpit and tell me what you're seeing and I'll try to find it on Apple Maps".

[Verdugo]

I believe it yields higher accuracy than, "Ivan, just look out the cockpit and tell me what you're seeing and I'll try to find it on Apple Maps".

Maybe they should try to punch out the windshield.

[Zaydin]

Downed Russian fighter jets are being found with basic GPS 'taped to the dashboards,' UK defense minister says

No freaking way.

Oh this is just so much schadenfreude I think I might suffer an overdose.

[zealo]

Are...are basic GPS units capable of keeping up with what one assumes would be a high-speed aircraft?

Which just leads to the question of why are the Russian Air Force doing this instead of being configured for relying on GLONASS.

Not like we're likely to get any answers to that anyway.

[Mayhem]

Which just leads to the question of why are the Russian Air Force doing this instead of being configured for relying on GLONASS.

Not like we're likely to get any answers to that anyway.

Probably because all those satellites are trashcans painted silver with old tents taped to two sides imitating solar panels.

[Poopymonster]

Probably because all those satellites are trashcans painted silver with old tents taped to two sides imitating solar panels.

That level of tech, and thinking it'll work...did they paint it red to go faster?