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    Its surreal listening to the speech and whats he is saying. Like an alternate timeline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreuger View Post
    Its surreal listening to the speech and whats he is saying. Like an alternate timeline
    its a war speech right? anyone in the baltics should be worried too tbh.

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    You guys started all this with maidan in 2014, now you cry about the results, how hypocritical, total lack any selfcriticism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    You guys started all this with maidan in 2014, now you cry about the results, how hypocritical, total lack any selfcriticism
    delusional take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    its a war speech right? anyone in the baltics should be worried too tbh.
    Thankfully the Baltics are in NATO. He wouldn't dare touch them, that's why he's after Ukraine. (I hope)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    You guys started all this with maidan in 2014, now you cry about the results, how hypocritical, total lack any selfcriticism
    Except that wasn’t us. That was internal ... After Russia had already started meddling
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    its a war speech right? anyone in the baltics should be worried too tbh.
    Yeah

    for example, just look at this, its reuters that made a list of things he pointed out:

    https://twitter.com/idreesali114/sta...885761/photo/1


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    You guys started all this with maidan in 2014, now you cry about the results, how hypocritical, total lack any selfcriticism
    Again. A popular movement deposes a Russian puppet dictator, so it's their own fault that now they are being invaded. What kind of fucking insane take is that?

    It's literally "I'm murdering you because you refuse to be my subject, it's your own fault I'm murdering you"?

    You people fucking boggle the mind.

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    It is now signed, CRIMEA RIVER!

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    Jesus fucking christ. That is all.

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    The longer Putin talks, the lower it goess.



    Can you pay for a new PS5 in turnips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    It is now signed, CRIMEA RIVER!
    So your Tzar Putin gave you your "small victorious war". It doesn't matter that your whole country is a miserable dictatorship, as long as you get to murder people weaker than you...

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    Man, these Russians sure do enjoy the thought of killing innocent people.

    So, Putin has decided to go full Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    The longer Putin talks, the lower it goess.
    This is clearly an evil western plot to impoverish Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qil View Post
    U are living in USA. U are safe. But im in Poland im afraid
    That wasn't the point I was trying to make. I am worried about the death and destruction that will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qil View Post
    so now u want evidence? Few mins ago u said that all 'color revolutions' were inspired by USA. And u didnt give any evidence of that.
    Do you want it? We had megathreads here about it.

    Now when Mother Russia is going for war, blood, killing others u should log off, take a gun, and go fight for glory of great soviet union!
    You're fighting with ghosts of the past instead of modern capitalist reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Man, these Russians sure do enjoy the thought of killing innocent people.

    So, Putin has decided to go full Hitler.
    Putin just gave the most pro-imperialist speech of any major power leader since Hitler.

    If you've been backing Putin because you're "anti-imperialist," say hi to Mehdi and Chris Hayes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biglog View Post
    What was telling was the dreary and worried look of all of the other governmental attendees at the Russian security conference today. They reason is they know that Russia and really the world is heading down a dark path with this move. It will kill many thousands on both sides and take us back 50 years literally to the isolation and Cold War hostility of Russia as with the Iron Curtain of the Soviet Union. The risk to the world of a small spark somewhere exploding into a world war will increase significantly. When you listen to Putin you realize it's really more to him than just Russia invading Ukraine. He is saying they are fine with stepping out of the world order because they believe they have been so severely wronged by the West that they are ok with becoming expansionist and going back to a Cold War. He has talked recently of increasing the arming of countries hostile to the West in their sphere such as Venezuela. The fear of a flash at any moment ending civilization with little warning is something we've mostly let dwindle away to thinking it'll never happen. But it's very much headed back to...it hopefully won't happen. Humanity's flaws always seem to make our evolution and progress two steps forward and one back.
    The prospect of a Cold War 2 is depressing as fuck. I was a teenager in the 80s and remember how pervasive the existential threat of nuclear war was in the public consciousness and in popular culture. The world really doesn't need that shit again. And yeah, it's a reminder that the notion of human progress is a lie. We don't learn from history; we just re-write it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    The prospect of a Cold War 2 is depressing as fuck. I was a teenager in the 80s and remember how pervasive the existential threat of nuclear war was in the public consciousness and in popular culture. The world really doesn't need that shit again. And yeah, it's a reminder that the notion of human progress is a lie. We don't learn from history; we just re-write it.
    looking forward to the threads remake tho

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    As expected:

    https://abcnews.go.com/International...rebel-83030409

    "MOSCOW -- Putin urged Russian lawmakers to sign treaties with Ukraine's rebel regions, enabling Moscow's military support for them."

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