Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Gaidax]

One of the biggest mistakes West made back in 2014 was the flaccid response to Russia taking a chunk the size of European country from Ukraine. There were some "sanctions" that people totally huffed copium/hopium about thinking slap on the wrist was enough.

I always said those token sanctions were a joke, especially given the event magnitude. But people here love their excessive hopium.

Sanctions now, as well, are not nearly enough what should be and have more holes than a bloody cheese. But at least now there is something reasonable there.

[YUPPIE]

Yeah, what an entitled bitch. It's not like his country remains under siege from a hostile foreign power committing war crimes and massacring civilians or anything. He just needs to be happy he's getting anything, the little bitch. He's not even a real politician, he's an actor!

it's like, the US and its allies are doing *everything* it can and fast as well. It's metaphorically like getting a free meal from Gordon Ramsay and telling him to hurry the fuck up when he's cooking, you know?

[Lahis]

Now he's also forcing all men into conscription on the darker side, regardless of how they feel.

The country is in literal fucking war, being invaded by its bigger neighbor. You can bet your ass all men will be required to protect their country at that point.

And "country" doesn't even mean the literal borders right now. It means a democratic and civilized society. Ukraine, however corrupt it might be, is still leagues better than Russia on that front.

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Today Zelenksy made an outlandish PR statement claiming the West *should have* aided Ukraine in 2014 and it's been rebuked and received poorly considering what the government was like then. In fact, what I don't particularly like is despite the amount of aid he's receiving (like as much as humanly possible), he's always demanding more or something else.

The West should have aided Ukraine in 2014, and Georgia in 2008. How many lives on both sides would have been saved if Putin was stopped 14 years ago?

[DarkTZeratul]

It's metaphorically like getting a free meal from Gordon Ramsay and telling him to hurry the fuck up when he's cooking, you know?

Yes, because getting military aid to save yourself from an active invasion force is just like getting a free meal from a celebrity chef. What complete and utter bullshit.

[Fugus]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but evidently Starbucks has announced they are pulling out of Russia as well.

[Ripster42]

Just going out on a limb here but I'm guessing Turkey doesn't want foot soldiers from Sweden.

Then they should get actual evidence, instead of just persecuting people who are critical of the turkish state and submit that to sweden, while guaranteeing that they'll get fair trials. Which turkey seems to be unable to do.

[Poopymonster]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but evidently Starbucks has announced they are pulling out of Russia as well.

Fuck em. Fuck $Bux.

[Verdugo]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but evidently Starbucks has announced they are pulling out of Russia as well.

Russia finaly getting some benefits out of this mess.

[Joszef Kiprich]

it's like, the US and its allies are doing *everything* it can and fast as well. It's metaphorically like getting a free meal from Gordon Ramsay and telling him to hurry the fuck up when he's cooking, you know?

No, it's like 20 people are starving because their neighbours steal all their food and Ramsay says: don't worry I got your backs, you won't be hungry for the next decade. And then he comes with one single burger

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Russia finaly getting some benefits out of this mess.

No more Mickey D and no more Starbucks. So now they can enjoy decent burgers and actual coffee.

[Poopymonster]

No, it's like 20 people are starving because their neighbours steal all their food and Ramsay says: don't worry I got your backs, you won't be hungry for the next decade. And then he comes with one single burger

We'll send you bunches of thousands of burgers and fries. (congress happens), We're working on sending you a few thousand burgers and fries, while working with other restaurants to get more. (diplomacy happens between countries) We've got a couple of thousand burgers with a dozen fries, we're trying to get you more as they source more burgers and fries. (other countries government happen) We're getting you hundreds of burgers, but no fries. Some trained cooks to help you guys out with logistics of burgering. We're working on more.

[Rasulis]

This is interesting.

Kazakhstan Cuts Iron Supplies To Russian Steelworks

Kazakhstan’s largest iron ore-enricher has cut supplies to a major steelworks in Siberia as the repercussions of international sanctions against Russia disrupt economic ties between these two members of the Eurasian Economic Union, a free-trade zone. The Sokolov-Sarybai Mining Production Association in northern Kazakhstan was the main supplier of ore to the Magnitogorsk Iron and Steelworks until Russia invaded Ukraine.

Known by the acronym SSGPO, the Kazakhstani plant, based in Rudniy, was supplying 70 percent of the ore sourced by the steelworks in Magnitogorsk, which lies just 340 kilometers away. The Russian plant, often shortened to MMK, obtained the rest from suppliers in Russia.

Because of the halt in supplies from Kazakhstan, MMK has been forced to source ore from nearly 2,000 kilometers away, Russia’s Vedomosti newspaper reported on May 17, citing anonymous sources from both companies.

[Specialka]

Ukraine was corrupt as fuck even before this war, read into how much of an issue that was. And while no one gives a fuck now evidently, Zelensky made sure to repress any Russian affluence in Ukraine, which Putler claims was "genocide" so he could do his evil invasion.

Now he's also forcing all men into conscription on the darker side, regardless of how they feel.

Also, while he's all up in arms with Biden now, he blatantly thought Trump was a fucking moron and piece of shit. Who knows what he actually thinks of America and whether his loyalty will waver.

Any country would go forced conscription if invaded. Wake up.

[Forogil]

No more Mickey D and no more Starbucks. So now they can enjoy decent burgers and actual coffee.

I doubt that - I'm sure the Russians can find someone else delivering bland burgers and over-priced coffee.

[YUPPIE]

This is interesting.

Kazakhstan Cuts Iron Supplies To Russian Steelworks

for a while now, Kazakhstan has been increasingly belligerent against Russia. I don't get it considering I thought Putin owned that country like Belarus.

Considering he could deploy his army to "peacekeep" Kazak over the protests not too long ago, why doesn't he invade again for such defiance?

[PhaelixWW]

for a while now, Kazakhstan has been increasingly belligerent against Russia. I don't get it considering I thought Putin owned that country like Belarus.

Considering he could deploy his army to "peacekeep" Kazak over the protests not too long ago, why doesn't he invade again for such defiance?

Why not invade China and the US while he's at it?

[YUPPIE]

Why not invade China and the US while he's at it?

Kazakhstan is Putin's puppet regime, though? Just like with Lukashenko. It's not even comparable. Tokayev has balls to speak out against Putin and undermine him the way he has even if corrupt beyond measure. In fact, considering the first thing you see of googling this guy is him hugging Putin, I think he's lying.

[Corvus]

This is interesting.

Kazakhstan Cuts Iron Supplies To Russian Steelworks

All the talking heads have been saying Kazakhstan is on the list after Ukraine is dealt with.

[PhaelixWW]

All the talking heads have been saying Kazakhstan is on the list after Ukraine is dealt with.

I mean... it's a former Soviet country, so of course it is.

Moldova would have been next, though, I'm sure.

[YUPPIE]

How does Russia have plans to invade and genocide all these other countries if they're supposed to be failing so hard in Ukraine, unless their governments just keel over? It seems like Kazakhstan is going to fight back.

[DarkTZeratul]

How does Russia have plans to invade and genocide all these other countries if they're supposed to be failing so hard in Ukraine, unless their governments just keel over?

A combination of being wildly optimistic and being surrounded by advisors who tell them what they want to hear instead of the truth.