Russian invasion of Ukraine

[zorkuus]

In other news - Polish venue cancels Roger Waters concert after he opposed sending weapons to Ukraine.

He should team up with Noam Chomsky and tell us how this is all the fault of the west.

[Milchshake]

Snowden is a good example of an old Cold War principle: the punishment for spying for Russia is living in Russia.

Always found it very karmic how depressed Kim Philby was living in Russia after defecting.

[zorkuus]

russia, admitting mistakes. What's their angle? Could they be seriously afraid of a revolt?

They aren't admitting anything. There's actually nothing in the official decree that describes a "partial mobilization". It's very open to interpretation and that's how it's treated by the recruiters.

[Corvus]

The newly mobilised are being told to bring their own medicine as there is none available, and to ask their wives for tampons to stop the bleeding from bullet holes.

https://twitter.com/SevaUT/status/15...3oKOwBhzI95Xfg

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russia, admitting mistakes. What's their angle? Could they be seriously afraid of a revolt?

It's the classic Russian 'the tsar is good, the boyars are bad'. They are throwing a few lower ranks under the bus while saying Putin will fix it. It's the way Russia has always operated.

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The deputy mufti of Crimea appealed to all muslims in Russia to surrender if at all possible, but if not then he knows where to shoot, and he thinks they do too.

Looks like fragging is back on the menu boys.

[Kokolums]

300000 is still quite a lot to meat grinder. But mass deserting, surrenders and fraggings aren't impossible.

People always flee war. 11 million fled Ukraine.




https://www.nj.com/news/2022/09/more...uge-in-nj.html

More than 11M people fled Ukraine. Meet one family finding refuge in N.J.

Published: Sep. 04, 2022, 7:30 a.m.

The pair are among the estimated 11.5 million people who have fled Ukraine in the six months since they were torn from their homeland amid a relentlessly brutal war. Total pop is 41 million on wiki. So 25% fled the nation.

[Corvus]

That was almost entirely women and children, a lot who have now returned. Unlike Russian men, the Ukrainian men stayed and fought. They had more volunteers than they could use.

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A Russian economist is saying Russia's economy will die by winter due to the mobilisation.

https://fortune.com/2022/09/26/russi...-mobilization/

[Vakna]

That was almost entirely women and children, a lot who have now returned. Unlike Russian men, the Ukrainian men stayed and fought. They had more volunteers than they could use.

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A Russian economist is saying Russia's economy will die by winter due to the mobilisation.

https://fortune.com/2022/09/26/russi...-mobilization/

That's what I was also thinking, 300k random civvies being pulled out of their regular day (or night) jobs to go fight in a war, what is that going to do to the economy when there is suddenly 300k less employees overnight?

[Corvus]

It's almost certainly way more than 300k, and then there are all the working age males who have fled the country as well.

[Makabreska]

That's what I was also thinking, 300k random civvies being pulled out of their regular day (or night) jobs to go fight in a war, what is that going to do to the economy when there is suddenly 300k less employees overnight?

300k (?) drafted, over 600k fled.

[Dontrike]

People always flee war. 11 million fled Ukraine.

That's one strange way of letting us know you don't understand context in the least bit. Those that fled Ukraine were avoiding war they not only didn't want, but didn't start. Russians leaving wanted the war, but now that they might have to take part in it and face the horrors they wished on others and die in the process suddenly hate it.

Don't you see the difference?

[Deus Mortis]

People always flee war. 11 million fled Ukraine.




https://www.nj.com/news/2022/09/more...uge-in-nj.html

More than 11M people fled Ukraine. Meet one family finding refuge in N.J.

Published: Sep. 04, 2022, 7:30 a.m.

The pair are among the estimated 11.5 million people who have fled Ukraine in the six months since they were torn from their homeland amid a relentlessly brutal war. Total pop is 41 million on wiki. So 25% fled the nation.

Yeah they were fleeing because their cities and villages were being completely destroyed. Russians are fleeing because they don't want to fight, their homes are still perfectly intact. Not even close to a fair comparison.

[Lahis]

That was almost entirely women and children, a lot who have now returned. Unlike Russian men, the Ukrainian men stayed and fought. They had more volunteers than they could use.

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A Russian economist is saying Russia's economy will die by winter due to the mobilisation.

https://fortune.com/2022/09/26/russi...-mobilization/

"Russian economist mysteriously felled from a window."

[Iphie]

"Russian economist mysteriously felled from a window."

Eh, this is one of those professions actually needed to keep russia afloat. Oligarchs come and go, competent economists are much less replaceable.

[D Luniz]

Eh, this is one of those professions actually needed to keep russia afloat. Oligarchs come and go, competent economists are much less replaceable.

being a needed professional never stopped a purge in russia

[Iphie]

True....so self fulfilling prophecy it is.

[Yunru]

Looks like the last Russan youtuber Konstantin fleed the russa now, so its gona be harder to get news from inside.

[Crispin]

Quite funny to realise that Shalcker is most likely in a 18km queue into Georgia

[Kallisto]

Looks like the last Russan youtuber Konstantin fleed the russa now, so its gona be harder to get news from inside.

Looks like he's in Uzbekistan now.

Did Niki and Zangief get out (they were with Konstantin recently showing how sanctions affected how they shop)

[MCMLXXXII]

Quite funny to realise that Shalcker is most likely in a 18km queue into Georgia

Well, on Twitter he's still defending his Grand overlord with whataboutisms

[Kralljin]

Unlike Russian men, the Ukrainian men stayed and fought. They had more volunteers than they could use.

It's a bit of overdramatization in favour of the Ukrainians.

While sure you also had a ton of volunteers, but they also blocked any male citizen who's able to serve from leaving the country when the war started back in February.
There's arguably a reason why primarily women left, because they were allowed to, i somehow doubt the Ukrainians would turn down any women who is willing to fight for their country, at least during the first weeks.

Not attacking Ukraine (a ton of countries have similiar clauses in their laws) but it's a glorification to state that basically every male was willing to fight & die for Ukraine, especially in the first weeks when it wasn't clear whether the country would withstand the first assault.