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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Please abstain from dunking on other posters.
    Then do us a favor and start perma banning thes obvious trolls who only post just to troll, misinform, and/or spew propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    1. That's bullshit.

    2. Even if it wasn't bullshit, what does that have to do with the price of fish?

    In the hypothetical scenario where one pedophile goes scott free thanks to his political influence, should we let all other pedophiles go free? What is the point that you are trying to articulate? Like even assuming you weren't full of shit, which you are, WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO COMMUNICATE HERE?
    He had a relationship with a prostitute that ran his service out of Frank's apartment for 2 years. I've found nothing about any underage stuff. But typical for the flat earther no notnhave all his facts straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Please abstain from dunking on other posters.
    What else are we suppose to do when moderation does nothing about trolls and obvious liars?
    I have a fan. Seems he was permabanned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    Then do us a favor and start perma banning thes obvious trolls who only post just to troll, misinform, and/or spew propaganda.

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    Not enough of that happens in these forums and i have no idea why. They get banned for months at a time only to have a few days to reek havoc on the forums before the next one.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Sentenced to 12 years.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/11014...s-and-counting

    Was it wrong for me to check which current GOP primary winners had their picture taken with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Sentenced to 12 years.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/11014...s-and-counting

    Was it wrong for me to check which current GOP primary winners had their picture taken with him?
    No. Yes. In that order.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    No one is making the claim that only the GOP has child predators in it.

    However the GOP does enable them. And if you need me to explain the evidence over the last 10-20 years about why I make that statement you are a lost cause.
    I think that part of the problem that people who are sympathetic to the right have is that these cases are used to frame all members of the GOP as being child predators (or child predator adjacent). Essentially, they see the attacks on the GOP (i.e.: that they are child predators) as a personal attack (i.e.: if you support the GOP, you are either a child predator or support child predators). I think it's obviously fair to say that the GOP is unusually protective of their members, shielding them from almost any criticism, and it is deeply frustrating for Democrats, Leftists, or anyone with an ounce of integrity.

    That said, it is always a little weird how American conservatives are so touchy about these things, when they frequently levy claims of supporting or defending child sex offenders against their opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Sentenced to 12 years.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/11014...s-and-counting

    Was it wrong for me to check which current GOP primary winners had their picture taken with him?
    Let's find all the Republicans pictured with him and ask if they still stand by him.

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    ...no libertarian to defend him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical Mudcrab View Post
    That said, it is always a little weird how American conservatives are so touchy about these things, when they frequently levy claims of supporting or defending child sex offenders against their opponents.
    It is beyond a running joke at this point that Conservatives will accuse their opponents of that which they themselves are guilty of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical Mudcrab View Post
    I think that part of the problem that people who are sympathetic to the right have is that these cases are used to frame all members of the GOP as being child predators (or child predator adjacent). Essentially, they see the attacks on the GOP (i.e.: that they are child predators) as a personal attack (i.e.: if you support the GOP, you are either a child predator or support child predators). I think it's obviously fair to say that the GOP is unusually protective of their members, shielding them from almost any criticism, and it is deeply frustrating for Democrats, Leftists, or anyone with an ounce of integrity.

    That said, it is always a little weird how American conservatives are so touchy about these things, when they frequently levy claims of supporting or defending child sex offenders against their opponents.
    that's cause American conservatives think everyone acts on their worse impulses like they do.
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Sentenced to 12 years.
    Wow. A jail sentence almost too old for Josh Duggar to want to have sex with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Sentenced to 12 years.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/11014...s-and-counting

    Was it wrong for me to check which current GOP primary winners had their picture taken with him?
    And he’ll probably only serve half that with good behavior, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    And he’ll probably only serve half that with good behavior, etc.
    And then go on a tour expressing his remorse for his actions while pocketing a ton of donations to help him in his "recovery" and probably then get a job on Fox or OAN as a talking head who expounds on how God led him away from iniquity while he was in prison and Republicans will buy it hook,line, and sinker.

    I have been told I'm a little cynical though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanrefni View Post
    And then go on a tour expressing his remorse for his actions
    Has he publicly admitted guilt? I was under the impression he was fighting these charges and sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Has he publicly admitted guilt? I was under the impression he was fighting these charges and sentence.
    Not that I know of,I was just engaging in extreme cynicism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanrefni View Post
    I have been told I'm a little cynical though.
    I mean is it really still cynical when it's the mostly likely outcome.
    Fundamental civil rights are only "political" if you're trying to take them away from people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanrefni View Post
    Not that I know of,I was just engaging in extreme cynicism.
    Oh I got that part, no question. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss a headline or something.

    If the guilty verdict stands, he might as well do as you suggest. Once you spend XXX years in jail for child pornography, you really have two choices.
    a) vanish.
    b) go weeping on church TV, admit you have a problem, and start a GoFuckSomeKids GoFundMe for donations for people like you who have been led astray by...I guess make something up here, rap music maybe...to "redeem" yourself.

    I mean, you're only cynical because you see that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    And he’ll probably only serve half that with good behavior, etc.
    in most state those kinds of charges are excluded from good behavior time off or accelerated parole

    Arkansas has some good time off allowances that could get you off at 50% but it looks like his kind of offences might not qualify at all or at best 1/3 off.
    Too tired to look at what his charges were finalized as. :P

    https://apps.ark.org/inmate_info/time_explanation.html
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    Too tired to look at what his charges were finalized as.
    I can't find any good articles that say anything one way or the other. I will say, I did find this bad one that suggests that, because this is a federal conviction, "good behavior" is not going to be all that much.

    Part of "good behavior" for a sex offender -- the prosecutors went out of their way to point out this is a likely serial offender -- almost certainly involves going to counselling. Duggar continues to claim innocence and therefore likely won't go. That's on him.

    Oh, and I'm sure the guilty verdict and sentence are both being appealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    And he’ll probably only serve half that with good behavior, etc.
    He'll be there for a minimum of 11 years. These were federal charges, so good behaviour credit is a maximum of 47 days per year and parole doesn't exist (it was abolished by the 1984 Sentencing Reform Act).

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