Blizzard: No longer socially acceptable

[cparle87]

you really think they can put out something good?lol

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yeah,a really ''small'' niche of a few milion players that stoped playing

If 99% of all players quit there'd still be over a million. And these forums are less than 0.006 of all the people who have played.

[Lord Pebbleton]

What in the United States of America is this nonsense? Blizzard is not a person, and it is not the person that perpetrated sex scandals. If they release an excellent expansion, it will just be that, an excellent expansion.

The Roman Empire called, they want their damnatio memoriae back.

[LauraHydra1]

Now that Blizzard has been forever tainted by the sex scandals, and Bobby Kotick has been unable to be removed by anyone (the one thing that could convince the public that anything will be different), is Blizzard effectively dead now? Its no longer “ok” to be playing their games.

Even if they release a very good expansion people will still take you over the coals for supporting them, so its not safe to do publicly.

Most people really don't give a fuck about that stuff. Outside of the screechy mobs on twitter, people just want good games to play. Playing Blizzard games is as ok as it ever was to the general public. There'll be a few outrage-bait articles about whatever settlement money they pay, and then the whole mess will be forgotten.

[unfilteredJW]

Nope.

Modern consumers lack the stones to make anything happen.

[Th3Scourge]

I give negative fucks about the Blizzard 'drama' brought on by the Socialist Republic of California, and the degenerates on twitter that try to make it out to be more than what it is. All I care is that they just make good games, and at the moment their games suck dick.

[ParanoiD84]

Dont really care about all that i will play when the game is fun but i have not had fun for along time now in wow.

[Krawu]

Personally I don't care at all about their little scandal. Almost a decade of Gamergate and MeToo have completely desensitized me to these kinds of stories. To me their games just aren't fun any longer.

From this follows a very simple observation: When it was just a bunch of nerds working on passion projects for 20 hours a day they were making historical and industry-defining games.
Now that all the terrible people are gone it's just an army of 9-5ers and diversity hires being directed by purely profit-oriented HR and marketing parasites. Anyone who still has any passion about video games is locked out of the decision-making process, and it shows.

My hope is on Dreamhaven at this point, Blizzard is a lost cause

[deenman]

If 99% of all players quit there'd still be over a million. And these forums are less than 0.006 of all the people who have played.

no way there would be a milion,data shows there arent even that many playing now,but yeah,blizzard hasnt needed many subs to make a profit for a long time now,it just needs a few good whales,one good whale can bring them more money than 10.000 normal subs

[Nelle]

Noone gives a shit. (about the socially acceptable part and all the stupid cancel culture shitfest going on).

Obviously the game is dead in the water right now with no new content and most of us have unsubbed. Gonna be a little revival at 9.2
But millions and millions will come flooding back with the next expansion, delivering record sales. Just like always.

Not like there are other options out there. New World pretty dead already and that Weeb Fantasy game lost it's momentum, I see its already below WoW on Twitch.

[Beefhammer]

Nope.

Modern consumers lack the stones to make anything happen.

It's all about convenience. if it's an inconvenience, then most wont bother.

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Noone gives a shit.

Obviously the game is dead in the water right now with no new content and most of us have unsubbed. Gonna be a little revival at 9.2
But millions and millions will come flooding back with the next expansion, delivering record sales. Just like always.

Not like there are other options out there. New World pretty dead already and that Weeb Fantasy game lost it's momentum, I see its already below WoW on Twitch.

Got some receipts on that most of us have unsubbed?

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no way there would be a milion,data shows there arent even that many playing now,but yeah,blizzard hasnt needed many subs to make a profit for a long time now,it just needs a few good whales,one good whale can bring them more money than 10.000 normal subs

Do you have any official data to back that up.

In 2014, WoW reached 100M unique accounts, it is likely greater than that today. So if 99% have quit, there would still be over 1M. But then subs only matter for forum arguments. Subs are really a meaningless metric. You could have 1M subs but if only 10,000 what does that mean? MAUs are a far greater measurement of how active your game is.

It's like people are geeking out over the Steam concurrent user records. More people are getting into gaming every year, tons of these have Steam start on boot up. If you are logged in to Steam but not doing anything with it what does it matter?

[deenman]

Do you have any official data to back that up.

In 2014, WoW reached 100M unique accounts, it is likely greater than that today. So if 99% have quit, there would still be over 1M. But then subs only matter for forum arguments. Subs are really a meaningless metric. You could have 1M subs but if only 10,000 what does that mean? MAUs are a far greater measurement of how active your game is.

It's like people are geeking out over the Steam concurrent user records. More people are getting into gaming every year, tons of these have Steam start on boot up. If you are logged in to Steam but not doing anything with it what does it matter?

stop it with the ''official data'' meme,blizzard will never show their constant decline,cmon,you are just being silly

what we do have,is very reliable addon data that clearly has shown that milions upon milion of players just....suddenly stoped doing any form of trackable activity...what happened?all the raiders decided to stop using addons?did they pick up fishing?or pet battles?

also my bad,the population seems to be at the 1.3 m estitamted now,i mean its still REALLY good for an mmo no doubt

[Exkrementor]

Dont really care about all that i will play when the game is fun but i have not had fun for along time now in wow.

This. Most people wouldnt care if the games were good but Blizzard is just failing one project after another. If you would boycott every game developer and movie studio that has done some shady shit you would not be able do watch any movie or play any games. I honestly dont care about that stuff, thats between the victims and the perpetrators and the law institutions.

[Utrrabbit]

no way there would be a milion,data shows there arent even that many playing now,but yeah,blizzard hasnt needed many subs to make a profit for a long time now,it just needs a few good whales,one good whale can bring them more money than 10.000 normal subs

What data? Tell me where? You do realize wow currently has over 18mil subs.

[deenman]

What data? Tell me where? You do realize wow currently has over 18mil subs.

google it,also many youtubers have covered the data,its all public out there to see,coping with denial isnt healthy

[bloodykiller86]

Now that Blizzard has been forever tainted by the sex scandals, and Bobby Kotick has been unable to be removed by anyone (the one thing that could convince the public that anything will be different), is Blizzard effectively dead now? Its no longer “ok” to be playing their games.

Even if they release a very good expansion people will still take you over the coals for supporting them, so its not safe to do publicly.

not really no, if we're being real this stuff happens in every single big corporation in America it's just not out in the media like Blizzards issues. The news will eventually die down as they wish and they'll go back to just releasing games. Unfortunately there are people in this world that are just disgusting vile creatures especially when they get some power.

Personally im not going to stop playing WoW over this because to me it harms the employees who still want to work there and are hoping for a better future. Im hoping things turn out better in the future and will support those who are fighting for that

[Niwes]

Without marketing/media those companies would've died out decades ago. Same applies to Blizzard; if not for twitch/youtube nobody would be left playing. Honestly, if not for Asmongold in WoD making those videos that gave people hope, they would've quit then.

exactly this.

if you are no longer steadily on the news sites and come not up with something for the cool kids, or something new, you rotten for a while until you die, as such a company. marketing, products and „being present“ is EXTREMELY important to not fade into the dust.

just lets say all youtubers and twitchers lay down wow gaming and sites like mmoc close their site. in 3 years wow is completely dead and nobody besides a very very tiny die hard crowd plays it. and Blizz is same dead then, when happening the same to all their other IPs.

why do you think damage control kicked in and quickly a 9.1.5 was built ? why do you think you saw 10x more posts and news from Blizz/WoW on mmoc frontpage in the last 2 months than in all the 8 months before ? Blizz knows exactly whats going on and they know exactly how it works and what is mostly needed for damage control (marketing/PR).

its the way modern society/industry works.

[Attackrabbit]

if not for twitch/youtube nobody would be left playing. Honestly, if not for Asmongold in WoD making those videos that gave people hope, they would've quit then.

I pity you if you really think youtubers etc have that much influence.
Sample size of just me obviously but in the 15 years (almost) since I started playing WoW I don't think I've met anyone that cared what streamers said...goes for every other game I play / have played too.

[Kallisto]

no way there would be a milion,data shows there arent even that many playing now,but yeah,blizzard hasnt needed many subs to make a profit for a long time now,it just needs a few good whales,one good whale can bring them more money than 10.000 normal subs

When over a 100million people have made an account, and 99% of them over the years have left, that leaves over 1 million left.

[Mamut]

Its no longer “ok” to be playing their games.

Why? Because you said so? Or other "important figures" on the internet told that so we have to follow?

You know what matters for me? How fun the game is. I don't give a damn about who made it. D4 will be fun for me? I will gladly buy it and play for hours no matter the price because I know it will give me tons of entertainment like D3 and now D2R. I don't play anymore Hearthstone but not because it's Blizzard game but because it's no longer fun for me.

So no, it's totally OK to play their games and don't even dare to push YOUR opinioin as some facts.

[Alvito]

Even if they release a very good expansion people will still take you over the coals for supporting them, so its not safe to do publicly.

Who is going to be doing this? Why would anybody care? Safe? What exactly do you think will happen that makes it unsafe? Even for the internet you are overreacting a lot.