10.0 Leak

[Snorlax]

yeah this is cool and all but where's the part where anduin and wrathion hook up?

10.2.5 Anduin and Wrathion look for a third

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[Hitei]

Look, to avoid derailing the thread with back n forth responses, at this point it doesn't matter. If necro were ever to be introduced as the next class then it would have been in SL, given the pattern of releasing new classes every other expansion since wrath. We were due for it in SL.

Since we didnt get them for SL, and given that SL is the ultimate death/undeath expansion theme-wise, these is NO CHANCE IN HELL that we'll get necros over any other classes in a non-death themed expansion.

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It didnt happen in the past since it wasn't time. Now it is.

There's only a few possible classes left that could make it. A lack of new classes in SL pretty much took DR's and Necro's out of the picture.

That leaves us with Tinker or Dragonsworn for 10.0. If dragonsworn ends up begin the new covenant gimmick or a race like in the OP, then that leaves us with....

It's just common sense, biases aside.

Not that I find DR all that likely, but they don't really have anything to do with Shadowlands so not being in the expansion doesn't really effect them one way or the other. If anything they are in a better place post SL than they were prior, because with Sylvanas out of the picture both the old group of Blood/High Elf dark rangers and the new group of Night elf ones no longer report to her and are both in a position to be looking for a new home and role in society.

I also (independent of likelihood) maintain that the expansion after SL is a more logical point to have Necromacners than SL itself. Shadowlands is not an expansion about undeath, it's an expansion about things in the afterlife. Necromancers specialize in summoning the dead from the Veil back to the world of the living or killing and corrupting living things using death/spirit magic, but Shadowlands is a place where there is no "back" to bring people from, everyone is already a corporeal ghost, and every single person in the plane uses that spirit/death magic just as a basic part of life, so mortal necromancy is just child's play. People seem to think Necromancers should have been the DK/DH of Shadowlands, but that role is about expertise and capability, having the tools for the job. Bringing Necromancers to the Shadowlands is like bringing a Firefighter to try and deal with an imminent hurricane or tsunami because "they know how to use water".

Whereas 10.0 will have a bunch of people coming back from the Shadowlands, with new, very in-depth knowledge about exactly how death works and how souls possess anima and how that anima can be used to perform all sorts of magic; a bunch of knowledge on necromancy and plagues from Maldraxxus, and the knowledge that all those sorts of death magic can be used righteously and free from any sort of corrupting malignance. Knowledge of domination magic for empowerment, knowledge of blood magic via anima and how it can be used not just to drain people for power but to help spiritually heal them.

Shadowlands is basically a seminar on death magic and how to use it in a more balanced way, and you have a bunch of world leaders and the Ebon Blade coming back to Azeroth with that knowledge and also the understanding that they need to keep a closer eye on the relationship between this side and that side so that shit like this doesn't happen again. Creating a very real narrative space for a new, positively aligned group of necromancers.

[Itori]

isn't this like the 6th year in a row people have "leaked" dragon isles, i'm sorry to break your heart and hurt your fee fees, but just because you want something doesn't mean you'll get it.

[Lohal]

10.2.5 Anduin and Wrathion look for a third

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Where does one sign up?

Asking for a friend...

[Hitei]

If someone is legitimately feeding you this info, they're feeding you BS. New races and classes are very major features in new expansions. A Blizzard dev would be able to tell you what the new race and class are at this point beyond "a Dragon humanoid" and a "dragon class". A group of forum posters wouldn't know what to call a new dragon race and/or class in WoW, but a Blizzard dev 2.5 months from expansion reveal would.

Not arguing this leak is real, but nowhere did they claim the devs did not know the name. They said they didn't pry into the exact name.

"a dragon race and a dragon class" is something that can be dismissed as just a lucky guess or good inference.
"the new race is Blackwyrm, and the new class is Drake Lord" is an immediate red flag that someone who signed an NDA broke that NDA and you need to start an investigation, because the chances of some random peson guessing both exact names is near zero.

What OP implied was that they were told about the general idea of the class and race, and then didn't want to go "HEY WHAT IS THE EXACT NAME OF IT!?!?"

[Xath]

how is stating the fact void elves are from bfa not legion "defending blizzard" holy shit.

It literally isn't a fact and defending blizzard is claiming renown catchup was in from the jump.

[Hitei]

Bards could easily have 2 dps specs and a heal spec . A dd damage spec, a dot damage spec, and a hot healing spec. One of the dps specs could also have illusion pets or something along those lines. Make them a bow user and wear mail, and we have a great new ranged class on our hands!

Dragon Bard new class confirmed.

[Triceron]

Let's see! I've bookmarked this, so let's see when 10 gets announced

Honest question, if not Dragon Isles what else is 10.0?

[Le Conceptuel]

Let's see! I've bookmarked this, so let's see when 10 gets announced

I'm going to personally just quote everyone who smugly declares that they're 100% correct without considering alternatives. Both you and @Varx are up. One of you will be wrong, and one of you will be consequently pointed out.

[Hitei]

Honest question, if not Dragon Isles what else is 10.0?

Revamp with Dragon Isles patch zone (or not, who knows maybe Dragon Isles is the new torghast or something). Hollow Azeroth/underground expansion. Something out of left field like WoD. K'aresh or something for a void expansion.

[Le Conceptuel]

Revamp with Dragon Isles patch zone (or not, who knows maybe Dragon Isles is the new torghast or something). Hollow Azeroth/underground expansion. Something out of left field like WoD. K'aresh or something for a void expansion.

Technically-speaking, that would still be moving the goalposts for Xofa if they were to argue this if it became the case, since they were certain to specify we will never get Dragon Isles, which I interpret to mean in any capacity, right?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Dragon Isles might be relevant but not necessarily the new landscape we explore. We'll see though.

[Alanar]

Honest question, if not Dragon Isles what else is 10.0?

What if Dragon Isle is done within a Patch like Nazjatar and Nyálotha. But after that we move on to somewhere else?

[TheRevenantHero]

Again I understand the skepticism. I'm lucky enough that they shared what they have so far. When I converse with my sources, I don't pry and it's more of a "yes or no" guessing game to figure out what they elude to, so as to confirm that I'm correct in my guess. I don't go as far as to ask for specifics with names of things.

It's kinda fun, one time the information I was given was through song names of a Spotify playlist, which I had to decipher.

I'm more eager than perhaps anyone to see what I've been told for myself, whether it's right or wrong. We're not too far from an official reveal (again I was told Spring). We will see what happens!

I really don't believe that you have any sources in Blizzard. Because you are literally aiding in them breaching NDAs in contracts while also spreading information that was told to you in confidence. A lot of people claim to have connections in Blizzard with leak threads. They've all been shown to have been lying.

[pewpmeiser]

I really don't believe that you have any sources in Blizzard. Because you are literally aiding in them breaching NDAs in contracts while also spreading information that was told to you in confidence. A lot of people claim to have connections in Blizzard with leak threads. They've all been shown to have been lying.

Yeah, you are right. But it can't hurt to pretend!

[Teriz]

Not arguing this leak is real, but nowhere did they claim the devs did not know the name. They said they didn't pry into the exact name.

"a dragon race and a dragon class" is something that can be dismissed as just a lucky guess or good inference.
"the new race is Blackwyrm, and the new class is Drake Lord" is an immediate red flag that someone who signed an NDA broke that NDA and you need to start an investigation, because the chances of some random peson guessing both exact names is near zero.

What OP implied was that they were told about the general idea of the class and race, and then didn't want to go "HEY WHAT IS THE EXACT NAME OF IT!?!?"

That argument works if the only thing in his leak is the race and class, however, he has specifics about several other things including the expansion AFTER 10.0. His "source" has already broken the NDA several times over, so giving up the names shouldn't be a problem. So once again, we are to believe that this source is willing to break NDA on pretty much everything EXCEPT the name of the new race and class? That simply doesn't make sense.

[Izalla]

Of course it is. They've been repeating expansions for a while now. Legion was BC2, Shadowlands is Wrath2, now we get Cata2. There's no originality left in Blizz.

You're assuming this leak is real though, which I really doubt it is.

[Hitei]

That argument works if the only thing in his leak is the race and class, however, he has specifics about several other things including the expansion AFTER 10.0. His "source" has already broken the NDA several times over, so giving up the names shouldn't be a problem. So once again, we are to believe that this source is willing to break NDA on pretty much everything EXCEPT the name of the new race and class? That simply doesn't make sense.

That is not what I said, please learn to actually read.

[Sasquatch]

This movie is racist and sexist so I hope this leak is fake.

It's 2022, everything is racist and sexist.

[Teriz]

Again I understand the skepticism. I'm lucky enough that they shared what they have so far. When I converse with my sources, I don't pry and it's more of a "yes or no" guessing game to figure out what they elude to, so as to confirm that I'm correct in my guess. I don't go as far as to ask for specifics with names of things.

Yes, and if we go back through what they supposedly shared, it's interesting that they shared all of this;

• WoW team always has a good laugh that people always are saying Tinkers are the next new class.
• the class will have two DPS specs and a healer spec, but no tank spec
• Expansion Announcement Spring, and that the target release date is October 2022.
• cross-faction play is coming in 10.0
• New heritage armor is in the works (humans - stormwindy, night elves - OG cinematic look, draenei - BC concept art look)
• player housing is being worked on, but it won't be until 11.0 or later.
• 11.0 involves void lords, so whatever happens in 10.0 will lead to that I guess. I was told old god seeds that were planted in BfA will come to fruition.

But didn't share with you the name of the new race and class...

Also you don't pry, but you DID inquire about Dark Rangers. Why would you inquire about Dark Rangers, but not the name of the next WoW class and race?

I'm more eager than perhaps anyone to see what I've been told for myself, whether it's right or wrong. We're not too far from an official reveal (again I was told Spring). We will see what happens!

Indeed we will.

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Honest question, if not Dragon Isles what else is 10.0?

Undermine.