10.0 Leak

[cuafpr]

No it isn't. This was the most logical leak:

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we have vastly different ideas of "logical" is all I'll say. to each their own!

[Beloren]

we have vastly different ideas of "logical" is all I'll say. to each their own!

This leak sounds more far fetched than the one I linked,

[Ajaxandriel]

World shaping sounds boring as hell too.. why would i want that?

i'd rather they do a system i could build up my race's capital city and the changes a permanent on my client, with new updates every patch that allow me to expand further.

world shaping? to what end?

That reminds me Landmark/EverQuest Next that ended badly by trying to have a sandbox world like that. Why would Blizzard try and suicide its own world this way?

[ravenmoon]

That reminds me Landmark/EverQuest Next that ended badly by trying to have a sandbox world like that. Why would Blizzard try and suicide its own world this way?

World shaping reminds me of a worse version of Island expeditions, they at least were fun because some action took place, but because these maps have no permanent position in the world you can actually visit or form an attachment too, what's the point? It ends up being a gimmicky, fun for a little while, no lasting meaning.

You see every zone and land has lore, meaning, it belongs to someone, it tells a story, and it remains, you can help change the fortunes of that land by the questing you do, celebrate with helping its citizens or conquering, it could the home land of your favourite race - these are attachments.. with a landscape that constantly changes.. i mean it's nice scenery, but to what effect? it means little to nothing.

At least a capital city means something to the race I like, bolsters its fantasy, and can be a nexus of quests, dungeons, raids, and plots that expound the fantasy and story of the race beyond just being a vendor centre. Not to mention how architecture and vistas are impressive locations players enjoy a lot. because this is what we are use to in real life.

I don't get this. This is why I think this is bogus. or at least that feature is.

We are probably going to get some dragon isle expansion, but I'm willing to bet that OP made up a lot of these features to try and fill the leak post and guess what is coming.

[FossilFree]

This leak sounds more far fetched than the one I linked,

The thing that would have made the leak you linked possible is the similarities to FF14's Heavensward (floating islands of dragons, sky whales, etc.). We all know how Blizzard likes to borrow from other popular games. Sadly, the OP there said he was trolling.

However, I think anything Dragon Isles will be a bit of a copy of Heavensward anyways. Which isn't really a bad idea, considering how popular that expansion was.

[Snorlax]

This leak sounds more far fetched than the one I linked,

The OP literally admitted theyre trolling in that thread

[Arillius]

Ok, three obvious problems, that I am surprised people haven't pointed out, because they immediately show this is a poorly-written fake.

The most important thing. Azeroth's world soul is a Titan. Not an Eternal. When Azeroth gets born, the entire planet will be her body. She won't wake up and be a tiny dragon. That makes no sense. That's not what world souls are.


If they ever did dragons as a race, there is no way they would just do black dragons. They would let you customize the color of your dragonflight, like the skin color of other races. Even the explanation, that Wrathion has found a way to not let the black dragonflight die is not sufficient to explain this, because it only explains why black dragons can be playable, not why other dragonflights can't. Blue, green, bronze and red dragons still all exist, and Blizzard would take advantage of this, if only for customization purposes. People would immediately ask "could we maybe in the future also play as bronze dragons etc?". Because it's really stupid to just limit people to black.


That makes no sense at all. The Troggs are a failed experiment. They have no progenitor. They were created by the Titans. They were supposed to be like the Earthen, but because they became what they are, they were deemed a failed experiment and eventually the Earthen were created, who then evolved into the Dwarves. For there to be superintelligent Troggs would mean that the creation of the Earthen was unnecessary. Why didn't the Titans know about these superintelligent Troggs?

1. Azeroth is probably not a titan. While that definitely was the original lore, it has been changed since to make Azeroth way more important. More over, the current WoW team will definitely keep trying to make Eternals a thing, because ultimately they forgot that the Eternals are basically just doing what Titans did and they didn't need to change anything or make a new race called the Eternals. They chose to anyway. But yeah, Azeroth not being a Titan is very much the reality now, sorry.

2. There is absolutely a way they'd do just black dragons. They're lazy. Lazy as shit. And they don't care. There are a TON of things that they should have done ages ago but never did and they don't even have an excuse anymore with Allied Races. One of the most recent mistakes? Giblins not being an allied race. They have the models and could have easily implemented it and just chose not to because it doesn't matter, they're lazy.

3.Troggs are not like the Earthen. Troggs are flesh creatures for the most part, which means they're like the dwarves. There could very well be an old base version of the Troggs that are like the Earthen. Moreover, I'm pretty sure the Troggs are a failed experiment because of the Old God interference. The 'they dug too deep' kind of thing. So there being some of them still around that didn't dig too deep makes sense. It'd basically be like the mechagnomes and earthen but for troggs... Only Blizz isn't that smart. So right here this could very well be just another retcon. They do that all the time. Just look at Sylvanas.

So you literally have no points, haven't been keeping up with lore, and have way too much faith in Blizzard.

[Varx]

How about this for a dragon race racial


Dragon form: flame breath: activates your true form to breath fire in a frontal cone. Dmg done heals you by x%, 2 sec channel. Activating this increases your HP by x for the duration.

Dragon Form: Wing beat: activates your true form to beat your wings repeatedly, knocking back all enemies in a frontal cone. Activating this increases your HP by x for the duration.

Shared CD

[Harbour]

So, first they made the player power borrowed, and now they want to make player customization borrowed?

I cant care less about how my dragonform would look like, it will be pointless in 11.0 anyway. Just put all resources into basic character model customization, and thats it.

[OokOok]

"He got banned"
means nothing. Doesn't mean it's real

If it was real and MmoC was acting on behalf of a request by blizzard to get rid of a real leak, it'd be removed. Banning the user doesn't remove the leak and it's throw away account.

Also the flaw is already in the first couple lines

"Black dragon race"

[Aeluron Lightsong]

1. Azeroth is probably not a titan. While that definitely was the original lore, it has been changed since to make Azeroth way more important. More over, the current WoW team will definitely keep trying to make Eternals a thing, because ultimately they forgot that the Eternals are basically just doing what Titans did and they didn't need to change anything or make a new race called the Eternals. They chose to anyway. But yeah, Azeroth not being a Titan is very much the reality now, sorry.

2. There is absolutely a way they'd do just black dragons. They're lazy. Lazy as shit. And they don't care. There are a TON of things that they should have done ages ago but never did and they don't even have an excuse anymore with Allied Races. One of the most recent mistakes? Giblins not being an allied race. They have the models and could have easily implemented it and just chose not to because it doesn't matter, they're lazy.

3.Troggs are not like the Earthen. Troggs are flesh creatures for the most part, which means they're like the dwarves. There could very well be an old base version of the Troggs that are like the Earthen. Moreover, I'm pretty sure the Troggs are a failed experiment because of the Old God interference. The 'they dug too deep' kind of thing. So there being some of them still around that didn't dig too deep makes sense. It'd basically be like the mechagnomes and earthen but for troggs... Only Blizz isn't that smart. So right here this could very well be just another retcon. They do that all the time. Just look at Sylvanas.

So you literally have no points, haven't been keeping up with lore, and have way too much faith in Blizzard.

Until Blizzard states otherwise Azeroth is still a Titan.

[Mic_128]

Must be combat utility. Tauren for example have brawn that gives added crit dmg as passive throughput and warstomp as an aoe stun as active combat utility.

Orcs have their blood fury active dmg boost, and Hardy passive to reduce stun duration.

Thats what I mean by utility.

None of which changes their model, removes all their abilities and gives them a whole new bunch of abilities.

[Varx]

None of which changes their model, removes all their abilities and gives them a whole new bunch of abilities.

Well I was thinking only like 3 abilities but I posted earlier what I think would be better instead.

So they could have two different channeled abilities that share CDs. Both would turn into ur dragon form and increase ur max HP by a small amount, like a mini bm trinket for the duration.

First one would be your obvious flame breath that deals damage and heals you for damage done, up to the same amount is the BM heal.

Second would be a wing beat that knocks back enemies.

[Beloren]

The OP literally admitted theyre trolling in that thread

Doesn't stop it from being more realisitc, or less far fetched. Which si the point I made.

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The thing that would have made the leak you linked possible is the similarities to FF14's Heavensward (floating islands of dragons, sky whales, etc.). We all know how Blizzard likes to borrow from other popular games. Sadly, the OP there said he was trolling.

However, I think anything Dragon Isles will be a bit of a copy of Heavensward anyways. Which isn't really a bad idea, considering how popular that expansion was.

WEll, yeh, he was trolling, but I still think his troll (if he isn't covering his ass),is more realistic than any leak so far.

Being omre erlaistic doesn't mean it's true, in many ways it is also the most predictable making it the least likely.

You want a little far fetched, but not too much, this one hits closer in that regard, but that one I likned is defintiely more logical/ realistic.

[Cosmic Janitor]

This leak sounds more far fetched than the one I linked,

Gotta agree, that one sounds alot more likely than them letting us play as black dragons. I mean we had an expansion of winged creatures (angels, gargoyles, fairies) and they didn't even manage to give us "wing mounts". Like hell they'll turn us all into fucking dragons with full blown customization of all races and shapeshifting. Even as a scheme to bait race changes I very much doubt it.

The only way I could see them doing it would be if they made us scuffed dragonborn, so dragons-but-really-not dragons, which I guess would provide an excuse why black dragons exist and need to take up lame adventurer classes. Essentially I could only see this working of we were devolved lesser dragons, but little wrathion only had enough spunk for that - in general it would mean all players would be a literal family unless they retcon everything about dragons. It's just wrong on so many levels.

[Velaethia]

Yeah no. As soon as I saw black dragons as a playable race, I knew this was total bullshit. Dragons will never be playable because dragons can no longer procreate in lore AND from a gameplay standpoint Blizzard just won't but that much work into a race. Worgen are still relatively close to humans in height and such. Playable dragons means they turn into a pretty huge fucking creature. Also, no big bad proves this is BS because Blizzard ALWAYS has a big bad.

Finally, Azeroth is a Titan and not a dragon. It makes absolutely no fucking sense for her to turn into a dragon when literally every other Titan has been humanoid.

5.0 didn't have a big bad. Obviously in the end we got Garosh but it wasn't clear from the get-go.

[Cosmic Janitor]

5.0 didn't have a big bad. Obviously in the end we got Garosh but it wasn't clear from the get-go.

They literally announced that garrosh would be the big bad, because they feared people wouldn't buy it without knowing who the main antagonist is.

[Beloren]

Gotta agree, that one sounds alot more likely than them letting us play as black dragons. I mean we had an expansion of winged creatures (angels, gargoyles, fairies) and they didn't even manage to give us "wing mounts". Like hell they'll turn us all into fucking dragons with full blown customization of all races and shapeshifting. Even as a scheme to bait race changes I very much doubt it.

The only way I could see them doing it would be if they made us scuffed dragonborn, so dragons-but-really-not dragons, which I guess would provide an excuse why black dragons exist and need to take up lame adventurer classes. Essentially I could only see this working of we were devolved lesser dragons, but little wrathion only had enough spunk for that - in general it would mean all players would be a literal family unless they retcon everything about dragons. It's just wrong on so many levels.

Agreed. The allied races make more sense too, as appealing as the black dragon concept would be, it can actually easily fit into a dragon based class instead that all races could be which is what the more realistic but self-proclaimed fake leak said

And the features do seem more logical too tahn "world shaping"

ANd I tink any new dragon race would instead allow you the pleasure of leaning towards a flight, rather than being one flight.

[Arillius]

Until Blizzard states otherwise Azeroth is still a Titan.

They've done more then say that, they've proven it. Why is something like the Jailer interested in another Titan? The titans themselves, Magni, and literally everything else that's interacted with Azeroth have all stated that she is very special. Sorry, but Azeroth isn't a Titan World Soul anymore, at least not a normal one. Blizzard just sucks that much that they have to take away one of the cooler aspects of Azeroth.

[Baleful]

We have been hearing about dragon isles expansion beign next since WoD (or even earlier), this leak is fake and unoriginal; and probably coming from 4chan/b/ that literally states and i quote:

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

you have this "leak" from 2017 (5 years ago) that already talks about dragon isles and a bunch of other places that are or aren't in the game already:
https://www.sse-games.com/news/wow-n...f-shadows.html

They just toss random names in wowwiki, insert "new class X, new race X, new system X, new map X" and there you have your leak.
And of course they sometimes get something right because there isn't that much lore to work with anymore.