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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Overlordd View Post
    Literally what is wrong for being a "heavy metal game". I don't feel represented by other media like star wars or cape hero movies. I don't fucking care about those. How is it toxic to cater towards a genre.

    What's this design even about? You can't have a strong focused audience, you must open up towards everyone? Go away. If I don't like a piece of media I simply will not pay attention towards it and keep my money, instead of demanding and crying to be included.

    Really want to know who the fuck is pushing this mindset. Stay out of people's hobbies.
    There's nothing wrong with it, but I think you're remembering WoW a little wrong.

    Was there references to "heavy metal" within the game? Of course there was. Was there all there was to the game though? Not at all.

    WoW has been "open up towards everyone" since TBC honestly. Like with every form of media, there were references within the game that aren't necessarily appropriate these days. But that's how it goes. Go and watch a TV show or listen to music from 10, 20, 30 years ago and you'll find references in it that are outdated and inappropriate. That's just how it goes.

    The people making the game, the ones who have the rights to the game and own the game are the ones who are making these decisions, that's who. It's their right to change the game however they want.

    Maybe it's you that needs a bit of self-reflection and open-mindedness.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    When did this game ever have heavy metal? Outside of that special temporary boss in tbc Kara that dropped a guitar?

    Honestly this thread reads like somebody complaining that being an asshole isn't acceptable behavior anymore
    i agree i think op got mixed up with warhammer lol.

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    I want what OP is having lmao

    No this game was never "metal", the Necrolords are more metal than any stuff you are dreaming about

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    Dio said it best in "Children of the Sea":

    In the misty morning, on the edge of time
    We've lost the rising sun, a final sign
    As the misty morning rolls away to die
    Reaching for the stars, we blind the sky

    We sailed across the air before we learned to fly
    We thought that it could never end
    We'd glide above the ground before we learned to run, run
    Now it seems our world has come undone

    Oh they say that it's over
    And it just had to be
    Ooh they say that it's over
    We're lost children of the sea, oh

    We made the mountains shake with laughter as we played
    Hiding in our corner of the world
    Then we did the demon dance and rushed to nevermore
    Threw away the key and locked the door

    Oh they say that it's over, yeah
    And it just had to be
    Yes they say that it's over
    We're lost children of the sea

    In the misty morning, on the edge of time
    We've lost the rising sun, a final sign
    As the misty morning rolls away to die
    Reaching for the stars, we blind the sky

    Oh they say that it's over, yeah
    And it just had to be
    Oh they say that it's over
    Poor lost children of the sea, yeah

    Look out! The sky is falling down!
    Look out! The world is spinning round and round and round!
    Look out! The sun is going black, black
    Look out! It's never never never coming back, look out!
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Overlordd View Post
    Weird how it never caught onto you.



    Meanwhile we're following Anduin, Jaina, Thrall and Baine around like the marvel squad of Azeroth.
    You picked one narrative that was quickly dissolved and let to nothing.
    Thats why we got a cinematic in ardenweald specifically about the tree burning an expac later? Cuz they dissolved it so quickly? Talk about selective hearing/sight

    I say again

    Wow has ALAWYS been akin to a Saturday morning cartoon from the 90s.

  6. #26
    The game has never been metal, you're making shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    The tone. The Orcs. The muscles. The bloodlust. It’s not literal heavy metal being included. It’s the tone from that genre.
    Eh, that's basically any post-Conan "Swords and Sorcery"-type fantasy though, which is vastly older than heavy metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overlordd View Post
    Lol at people who think heavy metal or metal culture is just banging your head playing loud rock music.

    Really why WoW is losing its grasp.

    THIS is why WoW was so good.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=f2OV4Q5N_K0

    And it's never coming back.
    Oh come now, a bland power metal song, which sounds like a lazy Iced Earth rip-off with worse vocals is the reason as to WoW was good? Pffft. And honestly, it seems like you're the one who has some odd 1986'ish idea of what metal culture is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overlordd View Post
    Weird how it never caught onto you.



    Meanwhile we're following Anduin, Jaina, Thrall and Baine around like the marvel squad of Azeroth.
    You picked one narrative that was quickly dissolved and let to nothing.
    Been that way since Cataclysm, but okay.

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  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Overlordd View Post
    Literally what is wrong for being a "heavy metal game". I don't feel represented by other media like star wars or cape hero movies. I don't fucking care about those. How is it toxic to cater towards a genre.

    What's this design even about? You can't have a strong focused audience, you must open up towards everyone? Go away. If I don't like a piece of media I simply will not pay attention towards it and keep my money, instead of demanding and crying to be included.

    Really want to know who the fuck is pushing this mindset. Stay out of people's hobbies.
    So you’d have preferred the game be put on maintenance mode back when the people who influenced those early years left the company? Or just have all the new folks half-ass a game with a themes and tone that they don’t identify with?

    There’s nothing wrong with having games cater towards a genre like that, it’s just going to be difficult to maintain that over time. If you want the game to continue development you’re invariably going to get new people working on it that come with new ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    That's a ripoff of Warhammer, which itself is way more fucking metal than WoW could ever be.

    Warhammer is Bolt Thrower, Warcraft is Poison.
    Hah, that's pretty funny. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overlordd View Post
    Warcraft used to be high fantasy with a good dose of heavy metal.
    With the exception of ETC, Klaxxi names and the extremely time limited Axe from Karazhan, there isn't any heavy metal in Warcraft, so calling it "a good dose of heavy metal" is bordering lying.
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  11. #31
    Maldraxxus is full of references to metal bands.
    Ardenweald has a ton of references to the Fae from European pagan folklore.
    Bastion is full of greek mythology, which is European and pagan.
    Revendreth is vampire country, which is more modern mythology but has its roots in western Europe in Vlad the Impaler.

    The afterlives seem pretty European pagan to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    With the exception of ETC and the extremely time limited Axe from Karazhan, there isn't any heavy metal in Warcraft, so calling it "a good dose of heavy metal" is bordering lying.


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    Maldraxxus
    Maldraxxus is pretty fucking metal lol
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  13. #33
    This game has never been metal, although there's been many honorific references to it. But even that's still in the game. They outright said that Maldraxxus is designed to be an homage to metal.

  14. #34
    Man, you don't know shit about fantasy if you think WoW was ever particularly "metal". Warhammer shits all over it in that department (yes, even the lighter and softer Age of Sigmar) and that's not even getting into 40K. Witcher is more metal. God of War is more metal. Hell Dragon Age is more metal and it's been barely ever trying to be since the first game's marketing.

    Go play Doom Eternal or something if you want an unapologetically metal game. Warcraft has been pretty tame since its inception, with sporadic tragedies like the sack of Stormwind, the Scourge, or Teldrassil spicing things up from time to time. Nothing compared to the madness you can unleash in Total War Warhammer or something.
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    The game can't rebecome something it never was.
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