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  1. #521
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Because they gave the ones where the 4th spec doesnt fit a new skin option. Each class gets something:

    (presumably)
    DK - Dragon Knight spec
    DH - Warden skin
    Druid - Nightmare skin
    Hunter - Dark Ranger skin / Tinker spec (might be divided up by races or they got 2 just from raw popularity of the class)
    Mage - Chronomancer spec
    Monk - Minstrel spec
    Paladin - Dragon Knight spec
    Priest - Chronomancer spec
    Rogue - Minstrel spec
    Shaman - Dragonsworn/ Earthwarden, potentially a tank role option
    Warlock - Necromancer skin
    Warrior - Dragon Knight spec
    Still incredible messy; the skins aren’t specs, they’re skins, and would feel shitty compared to 8 classes getting something new. Which would probably be a main reason they’d make single spec, single theme classes over this mess.

    Better to take this at face value; it’s either right or it’s not. Fans doing the “Oh they obviously meant specs” is just going to make this game of telephone even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Because they gave the ones where the 4th spec doesnt fit a new skin option. Each class gets something:

    (presumably)
    DK - Dragon Knight spec
    DH - Warden skin
    Druid - Nightmare skin
    Hunter - Dark Ranger skin / Tinker spec (might be divided up by races or they got 2 just from raw popularity of the class)
    Mage - Chronomancer spec
    Monk - Minstrel spec
    Paladin - Dragon Knight spec
    Priest - Chronomancer spec
    Rogue - Minstrel spec
    Shaman - Dragonsworn/ Earthwarden, potentially a tank role option
    Warlock - Necromancer skin
    Warrior - Dragon Knight spec
    Oh lord, I truly hope this is just limited to speculation, and not the next expansion.
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  3. #523
    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Oh lord, I truly hope this is just limited to speculation, and not the next expansion.
    It’s just fans not taking the leak at face value and *assuming* if it’s legit it can’t possibly work the way it’s written and has to mean something else

  4. #524
    Quote Originally Posted by Minoradditions View Post
    Hearthstone's year theme has leaked by accident, it's Year of the Hydra.

    Chromatus is a Hydra.

    https: //static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/f/f8/Chromatus.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110729185833
    I also like to mention that Hearthstone added a lot of "Tinker' things including finishing animation in the Battlegrounds and arena skins made after Tinkers.

    Also A LOT of dragon stuff, and I mean a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Oh lord, I truly hope this is just limited to speculation, and not the next expansion.
    Yeah, it's better if we get nothing like we have the last 2 expansions, no? Expectations can't be lower after Shadowlands, truly.

  5. #525
    Reminder: Dragonsworn should be a class.

  6. #526
    Quote Originally Posted by Au-burn View Post
    Reminder: Dragonsworn should be a class.
    Correct (see sig) but we get what we get

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zankai27 View Post
    Specs is honestly messier than micro classes. How do you justify giving 4 classes a new spec and telling the others to get fucked for an expansion? It was fine when it happened to Druids because they just split a bloated spec in half.

    The idea of it being a shared spec between armor classes also is terrible and doesn’t work well. Do they get to still use their base abilities? So would a DH have eye beam, glaive toss, fel rush, and Minstrel skills?

    It honestly works better if they’re just completely separate. Just 4 new specs separated into classes because of their unique themes.

    I can see them doing this, on top of no leveling, as a big shakeup but also cool additions to draw people back in.

    And, they can always build on the 1-spec classes going forward. Set the basic groundwork now and give them more over time.
    My thought is that if they DO go this way. Is there a chance they'd just swap pre existing specs to being full classes somehow?

  8. #528
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    My thought is that if they DO go this way. Is there a chance they'd just swap pre existing specs to being full classes somehow?
    In what way do you mean? Like Ret or Havoc becoming standalone classes? No chance in hell they do that; it’s another reason I think the 1-spec microclasses are the best to do it; it’s the least intrusive way to add new experiences 1 spec at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zankai27 View Post
    In what way do you mean? Like Ret or Havoc becoming standalone classes? No chance in hell they do that; it’s another reason I think the 1-spec microclasses are the best to do it; it’s the least intrusive way to add new experiences 1 spec at a time.
    Yeah that's what i meant. And never knowm tbh if the leaks real i kinda get the sense they are setting up for a WoW 2 conversion instead of a whole new game.

    Whiich would be insanely stupid imo but ya never know with modern blizz.

  10. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    I don't play Hearthstone anymore. Do Hearthstone packs relate the current wow plot?

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    I do find it strange a limited number of order halls return?

    Gonna be weird to if your class isn't one of the retuning ones. Druids in the Silverhand etc

  11. #531
    Quote Originally Posted by baatora View Post
    minute 4:55

    Rogue -> Ministrel.

    They are trolling us
    I think he said Maestra. Which I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. Is it like a female maestro?

  12. #532
    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderment2 View Post
    I don't play Hearthstone anymore. Do Hearthstone packs relate the current wow plot?

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    I do find it strange a limited number of order halls return?

    Gonna be weird to if your class isn't one of the retuning ones. Druids in the Silverhand etc
    I think the implication was more that we’re working with them as outside agents, which kind of sounds like a cool way to see where they’re at now. Maybe the others come in in subsequent patches in a similar way?

  13. #533
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Alan View Post
    I think he said Maestra. Which I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. Is it like a female maestro?
    It's a Hearthstone card/deck build.

    That's why we can't rely on Hearthstone to mean dick.

  14. #534
    Warrior - Blademaster (10.3)
    Paladin - Spellbreaker (10.1)
    Hunter - Dark Ranger (10.0)
    Rogue - Shado-Pan (10.3)
    Priest - Priest of the Pantheon (10.2)
    Warlock - Necromancer (10.0)
    Mage - Apothecary (10.1)
    Shaman - Dragonsworn (10.0)
    Druid - Druid of the Nightmare (10.0)
    Death Knight - Fel Knight (10.1)
    Monk - Brawler (10.2)
    Demon Hunter - Warden (10.0)

    Healer and tank specs for Tinker coming by 10.3 or 11.0.
    DPS spec for Chronomancer coming by 10.3 or 11.0.

    Drakonid allied race coming by 10.3.5 or 11.0.
    Halfling allied race coming by 10.3.5 or 11.0.
    Human-like feline humanoid (Uldaz) allied race coming by 10.3.5 or 11.0.
    Beast-like rat humanoid (Undermine) allied race coming by 10.3.5 or 11.0.

  15. #535
    Quote Originally Posted by Zankai27 View Post
    I think the implication was more that we’re working with them as outside agents, which kind of sounds like a cool way to see where they’re at now. Maybe the others come in in subsequent patches in a similar way?
    Outside agent or not. Still feels off to have druids running around Halls of the Guardian. Happy to see them return, rather have all of them at launch.

  16. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Super tinfoil hat time

    What if Blizzard is intentionally tapping into the meta for this one?

    They randomly pick a fake leak that's rarely being considered/talked about, they take that name and register it on their site, and they also create some throwaway 'promotional art' with a fake logo on reddit to throw everyone off the scent.

    Think it's possible they're conning us with this one? Like they intentionally might know someone would try and datamine the website so they purposely throw a red herring our way?
    Nah i belive its the same as Shadowlands leak, got the name right but leak is wrong.

  17. #537
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven View Post
    Nah i belive its the same as Shadowlands leak, got the name right but leak is wrong.
    Fair point, I figured as much now too

  18. #538
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven View Post
    Nah i belive its the same as Shadowlands leak, got the name right but leak is wrong.
    Yeah, OP just coincidentally figured out the name, that Quel'thalas was going to be merged into one zone, Lordaeron would become important, Dalaran would get an update, and Dark Rangers.

  19. #539
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragons Are Bad Mkay View Post
    Yeah, OP just coincidentally figured out the name, that Quel'thalas was going to be merged into one zone, Lordaeron would become important, Dalaran would get an update, and Dark Rangers.
    The Quel’Thalas part is the most interesting, but I guess we’ll see if that sticks

  20. #540
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragons Are Bad Mkay View Post
    Yeah, OP just coincidentally figured out the name, that Quel'thalas was going to be merged into one zone, Lordaeron would become important, Dalaran would get an update, and Dark Rangers.
    To be honest... It's very possible.

    Was watching some videos of youtubers going back over old leaks. Some old Shadowlands leaks got a bunch of things right, but still overall get a bunch of things wrong. Like they would get Shadowlands correct, Bolvar being in the cinematic, there being 4 major zone divisions, there being a major big bad with connections to Arthas right, but then say stuff like new Tinker class or Sylvanas dies.

    Coincidences are far more common when people are brute forcing so many different leaks.

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