World of Warcraft: Dragonflight

[ro9ue]

No i have played plenty of them, and thing is, in GW2 is works becouse its always been part of game, but in Wow leveling each expansion has always been a really big part, so doubt they will just remove it.

Yeah I don't know. Don't think they should just keep something just because that's how it's always been. Holding back some of the updates to modernity is probably damaging the popularity of the game at this point. Really nice to just hop into a new GW2 or ESO expansion and everything is scaled / levels don't matter.

Doesn't mean I think they should abandon the concept of bar filling though. They'll need to add either an account wide seasonal track like Destiny 2 (they have a near identical system in Hearthstone) or go with some kind of account wide evergreen end game paragon progression system like ESO Champ points.

If you look at what people always seem to complain about it's alt catch ups. With stories, renown, leveling etc. Just leaving it at 60 and having either the account wide seasonal XP or an account wide Alternate Advancement / Champion Point system makes sense at this point.

People will still need to climb the vertical ilevel ladder as they do in these newer games. So you pop into the new expansion, then you can jump right into dungeons, pvp or questing... whatever floats your boat, and that'll start helping you get your ilevel up.

[Deventh]

I'm speculating that it's going to be shared 4th specs for classes where it makes sense. Like take the Leather one for example: Minstrel. For Rogues and Monks. Doesn't make sense for DH or Druid, but then this "leak" interestingly also includes a skin for the DH and Druid. So it's like it was designed to make sure everyone gets something. That added depth makes me think this is more legitimate, if not it was well thought out by the poster.

4 specs seems ridiculous large amount. If they are not standalone classes they will be added as "extra" abilities/classless similar to covenants with extra abilities to each class. If Tanks get one of the healer "classes" they will get some healing abilities etc. etc. you get to pick the one you want which can mix-match with all classes to make interesting choices. I don't see them making separate specs out of these to classes that already have 3... Just not happening.

[draugril]

No i have played plenty of them, and thing is, in GW2 is works becouse its always been part of game, but in Wow leveling each expansion has always been a really big part, so doubt they will just remove it.

Has it really been a "big part," though? How integral is it to the experience? It's been present, sure, but important? How is it important? What does it accomplish that a campaign and borrowed power system not accomplish?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Yeah I don't know. Don't think they should just keep something just because that's how it's always been. Holding back some of the updates to modernity is probably damaging the popularity of the game at this point. Really nice to just hop into a new GW2 or ESO expansion and everything is scaled / levels don't matter.

Doesn't mean I think they should abandon the concept of bar filling though. They'll need to add either an account wide seasonal track like Destiny 2 (they have a near identical system in Hearthstone) or go with some kind of account wide evergreen end game paragon progression system like ESO Champ points.

If you look at what people always seem to complain about it's alt catch ups. With stories, renown, leveling etc. Just leaving it at 60 and having either the account wide seasonal XP or an account wide Alternate Advancement / Champion Point system makes sense at this point.

People will still need to climb the vertical ilevel ladder as they do in these newer games. So you pop into the new expansion, then you can jump right into dungeons, pvp or questing... whatever floats your boat, and that'll start helping you get your ilevel up.

I don't think having all the enemies scale to you 1:1 is even fun. The sense of power gets fucked because of that. I don't believe WoW should be doing that at all.

Legion did it and it was extremely popular.

No it didn't, there wasn't a 100 Full 1:1 ratio scaling like other mmos. There was no sense of you gaining stronger.

[ChairmanKaga]

Honestly without new rows of talents leveling seems pointless if the same purpose can be accomplished by squashing the older content and having campaign story completion in the new areas.

[ro9ue]

I don't think having all the enmies scale to you 1:1 is even fun. The sense of power gets fucked because of that. I don't believe WoW should be doing that at all.

Legion did it and it was extremely popular.

[Velerios]

Revamped Quel'Thalas is the most credible part of the leak and seals the deal for me. It is the culmination of a long storyline of conflict and division started all the way back in Classic.

Hostile Silvermoon makes sense, as the city will become a ravaged battleground between forces loyal to the Alliance, led by Alleria Windrunner, and the (few and scattered) forces left of the Horde.

NOTHING OF THIS LEAK IS REAL, how often does we need to repeat it: this Post ist all about the TITLE, nothing more. He made an made up post and thought what would fit to dragons: Dragonflight, THAT'S ALL!

- - - Updated - - -

Legion did it and it was extremely popular.

Because it was new, that's all.

[BobJohn]

Legion did it and it was extremely popular.

It was briefly until we saw how it affected gameplay. One of the worst changes to the game IMO.

First off, Blizz either intentionally developed it so you get weaker as you level , or it’s a side effect of incompetence. Probably intentional, due to having to always play through end game to get any semblance of “power” back (I.e. more money/play time).

One of the offshoots that goes under the radar is it eliminates an aspect of RPG elements. My opinion is that , at the core, what makes this game fun and memorable is more parts that are RPG-like. Maybe the reason why most people associate a “fun time” with rewarding power progression, more community involvement, professions being meaningful etc.

7.3 was one of the best times in WoW (intentionally left out 7.3.5, the lousy scaling patch). It was how Blizz actually did “modern WoW” right, IMO.

[Deventh]

NOTHING OF THIS LEAK IS REAL, how often does we need to repeat it: this Post ist all about the TITLE, nothing more. He made an made up post and thought what would fit to dragons: Dragonflight, THAT'S ALL!

- - - Updated - - -



Because it was new, that's all.

People getting so butthurt over this leak makes me cross my fingers and hope that it ends up being real.

[Velerios]

People getting so butthurt over this leak makes me cross my fingers and hope that it ends up being real.

Still will not happen!

[Nachtigal]

NOTHING OF THIS LEAK IS REAL, how often does we need to repeat it: this Post ist all about the TITLE, nothing more. He made an made up post and thought what would fit to dragons: Dragonflight, THAT'S ALL!

- - - Updated - - -



Because it was new, that's all.

Clearly you’re a blizzard employee running damage control. It’s useless, we have the leak we know what’s coming. You can stop screaming at ppl now. Also nice job on that lfr bug.

[Deventh]

Still will not happen!

People said that about all the previous leaks that ended up being real, so hope you eat your words in 13 days.

[Kiivar86]

I haven't seen it mentioned, but BFA and SL are the first time we got musical instrument animations (lutes and harps in SL, flutes and accordion in BFA) that weren't ETC or the guitar animations from ages ago. SL also features a Minstrel NPC (specifically called Minstrel, not Bard) who is playing a lute in Maldraxxus.

No idea where violins are.

Lute playing animation comes from Cataclysm. Russell Brower, Dwarf bard in the Twilight Highlands.

Also got used in Legion in the Rogue order hall, I believe.

[Vakir]

Did Demon Hunters become a class skin?

Obviously not. But I mean sometimes having those quests updated IS a sign of something being added. The Darkshore one was altered just shortly before Legion, so a Dark Ranger one being updated might indicate something similar - be it a skin or a customization option or a class, the latter being least likely.

[Velerios]

People said that about all the previous leaks that ended up being real, so hope you eat your words in 13 days.

Yes, Dalaran as the Capitol for the 3rd time; please don't tell me you really believe this crap?

[plz delete account]

It'd be funny. But I seriously doubt it.

I mean it literally leaked as source code on the official website

- - - Updated - - -

Yes, Dalaran as the Capitol for the 3rd time; please don't tell me you really believe this crap?

remember when people didn't believe Jericho's leak because it had Dalaran as the capitol for the second time?

[Traveler Voltin]

Legion did it and it was extremely popular.

level scaling was fine.
it was when they put in Ilvl scaling that it became hated.

[Lana Alan]

level scaling was fine.
it was when they put in Ilvl scaling that it became hated.

Level scaling is terrible. And people complained about it independant of item level scaling, because they didn't like how things leveled up with them. The whole point of an RPG and leveling up is to become stronger. That is invalidated when things level up with you.

[Velerios]

I mean it literally leaked as source code on the official website

- - - Updated - - -


remember when people didn't believe Jericho's leak because it had Dalaran as the capitol for the second time?

Yes, but compared to this crap, the leak of him was somehow believeable. And having it a second time OK, in the Story it make sense, but this does not work out for a third time.

[Varodoc]

NOTHING OF THIS LEAK IS REAL, how often does we need to repeat it: this Post ist all about the TITLE, nothing more. He made an made up post and thought what would fit to dragons: Dragonflight, THAT'S ALL!

- - - Updated - - -



Because it was new, that's all.

You can repeat it as many times you want, I don't care. You'll never stop me from speculating buddy. Who even are you lol, am I supposed to know you or whatever you said in the past?